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Before Antonio Tarver sparked him and he became a joke. Who would you say is Roy Jones Toughest career fight?

Imo Griffin gave him the hardest time in their first fight.

Tarver I

Diamond WEAPON wrote:Tarver I

Yes (although his troubles with Griffin are badly overlooked), but why would Hopkins, & especially Toney, listed?

Tarver and Griffin are really the only two choices. McCallum made him work more than Toney. Did James even land a punch?

Funnily enough, Tarver isn't even on the list for their first fight. I voted, 'Other,' with him in mind.

I never vote other, but I should have.

Who voted for Ruiz? He didn't land a punch either.

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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I never vote other, but I should have.

Who voted for Ruiz? He didn't land a punch either.

Jones owned Ruiz about as bad as any of the guys at LHW, that performance was Roy showing up 99% of the division who would've struggled against that guy.

Diamond WEAPON wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I never vote other, but I should have.

Who voted for Ruiz? He didn't land a punch either.

Jones owned Ruiz about as bad as any of the guys at LHW, that performance was Roy showing up 99% of the division who would've struggled against that guy.

He juiced for it, though, didnt he?

Tarver

I'm sorry guys I thought I put that in here i didn't.

Before Tarver is what I was asking.

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Diamond WEAPON wrote:Tarver I

Yes (although his troubles with Griffin are badly overlooked), but why would Hopkins, & especially Toney, listed?

Hopkins didn't do too bad against him and for Toney I was just naming names.

I think you have to go with Griffin. Griffin beat him.

Griffin beat him on his knees. He wouldn't have heard the final bell.

You don't know that he would not have got up. You also have to consider what was happening before the knockdown. Jones was not cruising by like he normally did.

It was an even fight, Montell might even have been slightly ahead. But he wasn't going to win. Maybe I don't know that he was going to get finished, but I saw the rematch. The odds of Montell getting out of the round were low, the odds of him surviving and winning the fight were zero. It's still a reasonable call, I just don't think you can say he beat him without an explanation.

The Tarver fight was the toughest to me, but Griffin deserves #2.

Calzaghe ..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNmPZ4q0uR0

1.17 seconds at the end of the fight it says it all.

Just read the first post

Didn't Griffin also drop Eddie Futch for the rematch?

PRE Tarver 1, it would be the first Griffith fight followed closely by the Hopkins fight.

Diamond WEAPON wrote:Tarver I

Watch Jones-Griffin I on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhzjiVpnrOo

Griffin had outlanded Jones 130 to 92 coming into the round of the disqualification and was ahead on one scorecard, despite having gone down once.

Let's say the fight would have made it to the 10th. Roy would have been up 1, 3, and 4 points respectively on the three cards, also assuming he doesn't finish Griffin in the waning seconds of the 9th. Anyway, fighters who take a knee, such as what Griffin did, generally do not sweep the final rounds in a fight. Even if he had done so he would have walked out of there with a draw, barring him knocking Roy down or not. A far more likely scenario would have been Roy finishing the already fading Griffin. If not all he had to do was win one round out of three against someone who clearly was taking punishment, not much of a tough task the way the fight way going. I see no way Griffin would have won that fight besides the way he won it.

dajuggernaut wrote:Let's say the fight would have made it to the 10th. Roy would have been up 1, 3, and 4 points respectively on the three cards, also assuming he doesn't finish Griffin in the waning seconds of the 9th. Anyway, fighters who take a knee, such as what Griffin did, generally do not sweep the final rounds in a fight. Even if he had done so he would have walked out of there with a draw, barring him knocking Roy down or not. A far more likely scenario would have been Roy finishing the already fading Griffin. If not all he had to do was win one round out of three against someone who clearly was taking punishment, not much of a tough task the way the fight way going. I see no way Griffin would have won that fight besides the way he won it.

Well-argued.

Was the DQ legit, though? The salient Q.