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Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 03:50
by wesley05
Will there be a upset tonight, for me a hope Curtis can pull off what would be the biggest between two British boxers for years :bag:

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 04:14
by THE MESSIAH
wesley05 wrote:Will there be a upset tonight, for me a hope Curtis can pull off what would be the biggest between two British boxers for years :bag:
I would not call it a massive upset if Woodhouse beat him.

I honestly have not seen anything of this world class ability that Gavin has. Reminds me a bot of Paul Williams, everyone said he was great but I always thought he was overrated. Woodhouse to win on cuts would not surprise me.

Fighting at Welter shoes me Gavin is not that comfortable at the 10st level. I thought he was alt welter?

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 06:02
by THE MESSIAH
MachoMan09 wrote:THE MESSIAH, you and I are normally singing off pretty much the same hymn sheet but I disagree with you in this instance. Were Woodhouse to beat Gavin it would be a massive upset. The two men are leagues apart in ability on paper and there should only be one winner. I can see only one winner.
We usually do agree, but I just do not see how great Gavin is. World Amateur Champ, great, but this is Pro boxing.

Unlike Muttley - negative - I am sure Woodhouse is coming to win. Its a good test but should have been at 10st, imo.

Come on Curtis!


:D

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 06:05
by Asterix
It would be a huge upset. I can't see it happening. I think McKenzie, Cook and Mitchell have good chances of springing an upset.

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 06:09
by LeedsLad
I think Frankie is fine at welter.

Because he tends to fight quite short it's easy to forget that he's actually around 5'9''/10.

Obviously it's a poor show with the weight for this fight but I honestly think he'd struggle to make 10st safely before too long.... so why not just move up?

Over here we seem to have an obsession with fighters fighting at the lowest possible weight unless they're flogging themselves half to death to make it..... Arnie isn't a clown and wouldn't stand for any shit from Gavin I'm sure.

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 06:11
by Benelio
Frankie Gavin looks nowhere near his billed height of 5'10" to me.

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 06:12
by THE MESSIAH
Benelio wrote:Frankie Gavin looks nowhere near his billed height of 5'10" to me.

He does not.

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 06:54
by alexpaterson
If Woodhouse won it would be a huge upset! Woodhouse has lost twice to journeymen and in Gavins last fight he shut out a domestically rated fighter and still looked about 40% of his best, this to me shows how good he is on an off night he beats Mutley around the ring! Boxing is all about levels and as much as I like Curtis I don't give him much of a chance of getting inside Gavin's jab and if he does Gavin will step back and fire off combinations before moving. Woodhouse's style is almost perfect for Gavin imo

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 07:35
by Londonirish
THE MESSIAH wrote: I would not call it a massive upset if Woodhouse beat him.


Your right it would'nt be Massive it would be Enormous :OhYes:

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 07:39
by THE MESSIAH
Londonirish wrote:
THE MESSIAH wrote: I would not call it a massive upset if Woodhouse beat him.


Your right it would'nt be Massive it would be Enormous :OhYes:
Which one is bigger? Enormous or Massive?

:lol:

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 09:19
by wesley05
MachoMan09 wrote:THE MESSIAH, you and I are normally singing off pretty much the same hymn sheet but I disagree with you in this instance. Were Woodhouse to beat Gavin it would be a massive upset. The two men are leagues apart in ability on paper and there should only be one winner. I can see only one winner.
what about if the same frankie gavin who only just beat mutley shows up tonight surly curtis can stop this guy imo

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 09:22
by Dan Dares
THE MESSIAH wrote:
Londonirish wrote:
THE MESSIAH wrote: I would not call it a massive upset if Woodhouse beat him.


Your right it would'nt be Massive it would be Enormous :OhYes:
Which one is bigger? Enormous or Massive?

:lol:
They're both pretty large. Difficult call, but I'd probably go for Massive on points.

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 12:17
by wesley05
MachoMan09 wrote:
wesley05 wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:THE MESSIAH, you and I are normally singing off pretty much the same hymn sheet but I disagree with you in this instance. Were Woodhouse to beat Gavin it would be a massive upset. The two men are leagues apart in ability on paper and there should only be one winner. I can see only one winner.
what about if the same frankie gavin who only just beat mutley shows up tonight surly curtis can stop this guy imo
1. Frankie isn't ill this time.
2. Mutley was negative and pretty much in survival mode. Curtis will come out swinging and get picked off until he runs out of steam, in my view.
Not ill Didn't he say he's had a cold/chest infection thats why the weight got changed and he's had to give Curtis another couple of grand ???

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 12:27
by Final round
MachoMan09 wrote:
wesley05 wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:THE MESSIAH, you and I are normally singing off pretty much the same hymn sheet but I disagree with you in this instance. Were Woodhouse to beat Gavin it would be a massive upset. The two men are leagues apart in ability on paper and there should only be one winner. I can see only one winner.
what about if the same frankie gavin who only just beat mutley shows up tonight surly curtis can stop this guy imo

Curtis will come out swinging and get picked off until he runs out of steam, in my view.
Reckon you're bang on there

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 13:00
by stujones
The form book would indicate it would be a massive upset. Woodhouse lost to McDonagh, and Woodhouse (to his credit) offered no excuses, said he was beaten by the better man. Frankie beat McDonagh easy.

It would be a massive upset, and sorry whether you think Gavin is world class potentially or not.... I can only see one winner. For me it is a backward step to Lomax. I hope Woodhouse proves me wrong and is competitive. However, at the moment better fighters than Woodhouse (at least what Curtis has shown so far) have not been competitive against Gavin.

Are any of the others considered a massive upset?

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 13:02
by whiskey
Frankie knows he was disappointing value in his last outing.

A combo of flu' plus an opponent who didn't have any intention of winning were the perfect ingredients for a total stinker.

I believe he'll show us all of his magic tricks tonight and Curtis ships a ton of shots and gets pulled or ref waves his brave effort off.

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 13:16
by Finn
wesley05 wrote:
MachoMan09 wrote:THE MESSIAH, you and I are normally singing off pretty much the same hymn sheet but I disagree with you in this instance. Were Woodhouse to beat Gavin it would be a massive upset. The two men are leagues apart in ability on paper and there should only be one winner. I can see only one winner.
what about if the same frankie gavin who only just beat mutley shows up tonight surly curtis can stop this guy imo
He didnt only just beat mutley.

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 13:27
by JC
You can get 22/1 on Woodhouse at 32 Red, those are some of the longest odds I've ever seen in boxing. Consider that Barker is only 10/1 to beat Martinez

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 15:16
by cakes
Heart says Curtis but just think he's goin to fall short. If he goes the distance and nicks a couple of rounds he's done brilliant and mr Gavin should get off his high horse and give him some well deserved credit. I also think Tony will get stopped or even ko,d he look shocking at weigh-in swiggin on some kind of fluid just looked so uncomfortable hope am wrong a like Tony. Burns should take care of a inactive mr Cook in around 8 rounds , and Murray v Mitchell really is a 50/50 but goin to go with Mitchell just for the sake he's got one big point to prove ;;-)

Re: Will there be a massive upset tonight ???

Posted: 16 Jul 2011, 16:08
by wesley05
cakes wrote:Heart says Curtis but just think he's goin to fall short. If he goes the distance and nicks a couple of rounds he's done brilliant and mr Gavin should get off his high horse and give him some well deserved credit. I also think Tony will get stopped or even ko,d he look shocking at weigh-in swiggin on some kind of fluid just looked so uncomfortable hope am wrong a like Tony. Burns should take care of a inactive mr Cook in around 8 rounds , and Murray v Mitchell really is a 50/50 but goin to go with Mitchell just for the sake he's got one big point to prove ;;-)
Massive respect has too be shown for the warrior Curtis