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At last we can put this to bed, May the best man win

So Cardiff or Liverpool?

Bellew has done nothing to warrant a shot at a world title...FW wants to keep the belt in his stable,il tell you now NO WAY will i be roped in to PPV for this!! prob have Mitchell world title fight on the same bill....

Should be in Cardiff

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Bellew has done nothing to warrant a shot at a world title...FW wants to keep the belt in his stable,il tell you now NO WAY will i be roped in to PPV for this!! prob have Mitchell world title fight on the same bill....

I agree 100% and just hope to god he comes to fight and not do a Snooze job like the one with Ovill Mckenzie, 12 rounds of ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Camcas wrote:Should be in Cardiff

agreed

taffytoon wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Bellew has done nothing to warrant a shot at a world title...FW wants to keep the belt in his stable,il tell you now NO WAY will i be roped in to PPV for this!! prob have Mitchell world title fight on the same bill....

I agree 100% and just hope to god he comes to fight and not do a Snooze job like the one with Ovill Mckenzie, 12 rounds of ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

He did lose me ££££ the other night,but i doubt he would box that way against Cleverly&i think we might see a good fight,but he dosent deserve a world title shot...

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:

taffytoon wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Bellew has done nothing to warrant a shot at a world title...FW wants to keep the belt in his stable,il tell you now NO WAY will i be roped in to PPV for this!! prob have Mitchell world title fight on the same bill....

I agree 100% and just hope to god he comes to fight and not do a Snooze job like the one with Ovill Mckenzie, 12 rounds of ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

He did lose me ££££ the other night,but i doubt he would box that way against Cleverly&i think we might see a good fight,but he dosent deserve a world title shot...

Bellew isn't gona outbox Cleverly, Clev will be too fast for that.

Adamj1987 wrote:

Camcas wrote:Should be in Cardiff

agreed

Should be in Liverpool, what a great way to prove a point

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Bellew has done nothing to warrant a shot at a world title...FW wants to keep the belt in his stable,il tell you now NO WAY will i be roped in to PPV for this!! prob have Mitchell world title fight on the same bill....

No disrespect to Clev (or Bellew for that matter) but lets be honest, the WBO belt don't mean much in this instance. It's a very good Domestic/Euro level scrap, neither man has proved themselves beyond that level just yet.

Looking forward to it.

It's going to be a good fight. I'm looking forward to it. May the best man win.

were you getting your info from taffytoon, i know your usually reliable. and also is it deffo in liverpool?

cheers

It'll be in London on the 17th of September on another 'Magnificent 7' type card. Degale is already penned in to challenge for the European title on that date.

TheCobra wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:

taffytoon wrote: I agree 100% and just hope to god he comes to fight and not do a Snooze job like the one with Ovill Mckenzie, 12 rounds of ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

He did lose me ££££ the other night,but i doubt he would box that way against Cleverly&i think we might see a good fight,but he dosent deserve a world title shot...

Bellew isn't gona outbox Cleverly, Clev will be too fast for that.

But he likes a tear up&Bellew can punch i think even after sat night

Without being disrespectful but I feel Clev is a league above Bellew and the class will show when there in the ring together. Clev is hittable though and Bellew certainly can bang but I see Clev being too versatile to skilful and just generally being too good for Bellew stopping him late

Herbivore wrote:It'll be in London on the 17th of September on another 'Magnificent 7' type card. Degale is already penned in to challenge for the European title on that date.

Nope more like 1st Oct in the Echo Liverpool

taffytoon wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Bellew has nothing to warrant a shot at a world title...FW wants to keep the belt in his stable,il tell you now NO WAY will i be roped in to PPV for this!! prob have Mitchell world title fight on the same bill....

I agree 100% and just hope to god he comes to fight and not do a Snooze job like the one with Ovill Mckenzie, 12 rounds of ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Anthony fought like that because McKenzie is a puncher who'd stunned him in the previous fight. He went away, worked on some things and made a potentially dangerous rematch into a no contest. Totally against all his natural instincts by the way which isn't easy to do for 12 rounds. Now he's gone from reckless with no chin and defence to boring. What a joke. Of course if he tries to box him it'll be tough, but it's gonna be a fight nothing more than that

Ant's never been stopped and Clev is a light puncher. No way he stops him. Let's see what happens when Clev gets hit bang on the button by a genuine puncher (which he will cos he's got little defence). Let's see what happens when he has to fight on the back foot.

It's far from a done deal.

And why would it be in Cardiff. Clev couldn't sell a stamp in Cardiff let alone a ticket

StevenB wrote:And why would it be in Cardiff. Clev couldn't sell a stamp in Cardiff let alone a ticket

He took 3,000 fans to the O2 which is 200 miles away from Wales.

I'd love for the build up to be respectful like Mitchell-Murray was but I can see some Haye/DeGale type antics from Bellew which will convince many that he can do it, and then if he doesn't the gullible buggers that bought it will go over-board in slagging him off.

No way would I watch those two again (Bellew and McKenzie), I'd rather watch paint dry. There's a difference between being defensive, ...and running scared of your opponment. Yeah he won, but don't get me started on the other guy. First time watching him. Not impressed.

ps. Clev will smash him


:x

Why's he rarely fought in Cardiff then if he sells that many?

dewipowell wrote:

StevenB wrote:And why would it be in Cardiff. Clev couldn't sell a stamp in Cardiff let alone a ticket

He took 3,000 fans to the O2 which is 200 miles away from Wales.

I'd love for the build up to be respectful like Mitchell-Murray was but I can see some Haye/DeGale type antics from Bellew which will convince many that he can do it, and then if he doesn't the gullible buggers that bought it will go over-board in slagging him off.

There was a lot of CLeverly fans not sure if 3000. Fight should be in Cardiff.

Why?

Fight will be where it makes most sense financially

lefthook82 wrote:Fight will be where it makes most sense financially

Amen to that MDW

MDW DD

J-C wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Bellew has done nothing to warrant a shot at a world title...FW wants to keep the belt in his stable,il tell you now NO WAY will i be roped in to PPV for this!! prob have Mitchell world title fight on the same bill....

No disrespect to Clev (or Bellew for that matter) but lets be honest, the WBO belt don't mean much in this instance. It's a very good Domestic/Euro level scrap, neither man has proved themselves beyond that level just yet.

Looking forward to it.

Cleverly has wins over three EBU level fighters in Brancalion, Mohammedi, and Kuziemski, and a one-sided win over a top 10/12 world ranked fighter in Murat. To my knowledge every major boxing publication has Cleverly ranked in their top ten at LHW, and I can count on one hand all of the fighters at 175 who I would rank above him. Bellew, on the other hand, has been dropped several times at the British domestic level, and has never even fought an EBU level opponent, let alone someone who is generally ranked in the division's top ten. If Bellew had fought at this level he would probably not be undefeated, and this fight would probably not be happening.

I like Bomber, but he has done nothing to earn a world title fight, and he is not on the same level as Cleverly.