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British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 20:00
by Horse
1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Amir Khan
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Nathan Cleverly
5. (5.) Ricky Burns
6. (6.) Matthew Macklin
7. (12.) Brian Magee (Irish)
8. (24.) Kevin Mitchell
9. (7.) Rendall Munroe
10. (9.) Jamie McDonnell
11. (17.) Ola Afolabi
12. (10.) Matthew Hatton
13. (11.) Kell Brook
14. (13.) Ryan Rhodes
15. (8.) John Murray
16. (14.) Darren Barker
17. (15.) Gavin Rees
18. (16.) Paul McCloskey (Irish)
19. (18.) Stuart Hall
20. (19.) Stephen Smith
21. (20.) John Simpson
22. (21.) Andy Lee (Irish)
23. (22.) George Groves
24. (27.) Ashley Theophane
25. (NE.) Lee Purdy
26. (NE.) Tyson Fury
27. (23.) Jason Booth
28. (25.) Prince Arron
29. (26.) James DeGale
30. (28.) Anthony Crolla
Out - (29.) Danny McIntosh
Out - (30.) Stephen Foster
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 31 Jul 2011, 20:00
by Horse
Any comments, criticisms or P4P lists are very welcome.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 00:06
by righthook
no tony bellew??????
hes 16-0. and has 2 titles.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 06:32
by Newport Daz
I think it's spot on actually. Mitchell and Magee deserve their spots in the top 10. I agree there's a case for Bomber being somewhere between 25-30, but it's certainly not outrageous that he's omitted. He may have 2 titles but the opposition has been pretty poor, plus the struggles with Ajisaf and Mckenzie (first fight), so there's no problem imo. Good list.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 06:42
by damianhucker1
theres always positions that can be argued , but overall ive no major issues , i dont like seeing ricky burns so high as i dont reckon too much to him buts hes a world champ so cant argue too much .
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 06:44
by addi
The Dark Destroyer wrote:I'd swap Ricky Burns and Nathan Cleverly.
and hatton for brook.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 08:51
by dewipowell
Kell Brook and Anthony Crolla would be higher in my list but that's a good list.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 08:53
by Scottrf
damianhucker1 wrote:theres always positions that can be argued , but overall ive no major issues , i dont like seeing ricky burns so high as i dont reckon too much to him buts hes a world champ so cant argue too much .
You can't say things like that, Billy Nelson will come on and call you a cock, mature man that he is.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 09:37
by whiskey
I can see why Haye has moved down the ladder after falling out of fashion, but the reality is he is still up there with Froch with achievements and a solid no2.
Rather than jostling between Clev and Khan.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 11:13
by stujones
G0mez wrote:I can see why Haye has moved down the ladder after falling out of fashion, but the reality is he is still up there with Froch with achievements and a solid no2.
Rather than jostling between Clev and Khan.
Disagree, I think 3 is right for Haye - who has he beaten in the last year? Khan has just partially unified the Light Welterweight title.
Having said that, I do think you've given Brian Magee a tad too much credit for his last win.... his opponent was possibly the worst I have ever seen sanctioned for a vacant world title in history.... a career long Light Middle, who not even shown himself to be European class at that weight.
Well done for Magee for getting the win away from home and all that, but it was a poor match up for a world title.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 11:38
by The 1bangkid
good list
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 12:46
by Horse
The Dark Destroyer wrote:I'd swap Ricky Burns and Nathan Cleverly.
I didn't think Burns' win against Cook merited overtaking Cleverly.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 12:51
by Horse
righthook wrote:no tony bellew??????
hes 16-0. and has 2 titles.
I wasn't impressed by his win against McKenzie.
I didn't think he deserved to be ranked ahead of Crolla, DeGale, Arron or Booth who are currently in the bottom four places of the top 30, so I left him out.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 13:00
by Horse
Newport Daz wrote:I think it's spot on actually. Mitchell and Magee deserve their spots in the top 10. I agree there's a case for Bomber being somewhere between 25-30, but it's certainly not outrageous that he's omitted. He may have 2 titles but the opposition has been pretty poor, plus the struggles with Ajisaf and Mckenzie (first fight), so there's no problem imo. Good list.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 02 Aug 2011, 15:40
by Horse
damianhucker1 wrote:theres always positions that can be argued , but overall ive no major issues , i dont like seeing ricky burns so high as i dont reckon too much to him buts hes a world champ so cant argue too much .
Yep, Burns is the WBO champion and he does have a good win against Martinez, so I think he does deserve his high ranking at the moment.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 02 Aug 2011, 17:40
by arzilo2
Why ain't lee Haskins on there he deserves to be.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 02 Aug 2011, 18:06
by Matchfixer
Where would you put Barker if he beats Martinez ? (ignoring all other fights between now and then)
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 02 Aug 2011, 19:49
by Horse
addi wrote:The Dark Destroyer wrote:I'd swap Ricky Burns and Nathan Cleverly.
and hatton for brook.
Hatton has achieved more than Brook.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 04:19
by REEVE
arzilo2 wrote:Why ain't lee Haskins on there he deserves to be.
yeah haskins should be on there after his win in africa

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 10:02
by Horse
dewipowell wrote:Kell Brook and Anthony Crolla would be higher in my list but that's a good list.

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 10:13
by Horse
G0mez wrote:I can see why Haye has moved down the ladder after falling out of fashion, but the reality is he is still up there with Froch with achievements and a solid no2.
Rather than jostling between Clev and Khan.
Haye has been in the No. 3 position since January, after Khan beat Maidana to move above him.
In the last three years Haye's wins are considerably less impressive than Froch's and Khan's.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 10:27
by Horse
stujones wrote:Disagree, I think 3 is right for Haye - who has he beaten in the last year? Khan has just partially unified the Light Welterweight title.
Having said that, I do think you've given Brian Magee a tad too much credit for his last win.... his opponent was possibly the worst I have ever seen sanctioned for a vacant world title in history.... a career long Light Middle, who not even shown himself to be European class at that weight.
Well done for Magee for getting the win away from home and all that, but it was a poor match up for a world title.
His opponent wasn't world class, but Magee picked up an interim belt and with his decent showing against Bute and his recent European title reign, I thought he deserved to move up a few places.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 10:27
by Horse
The 1bangkid wrote:good list

Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 10:32
by leforge
Horse wrote:addi wrote:The Dark Destroyer wrote:I'd swap Ricky Burns and Nathan Cleverly.
and hatton for brook.
Hatton has achieved more than Brook.
Former European champion so he position is rightly above Brook. But if Brook wins against a good opponent next time he should go above Hatton.
Re: British Top 30 P4P August 2011
Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 11:51
by Horse
arzilo2 wrote:Why ain't lee Haskins on there he deserves to be.
His win against Bouleghcha was good, but he has been too inactive over the last 18 months. If he picks up another win like his last one then he will probably enter.