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Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 15:52
by ThatOne
Gene Tunney
Max Baer
Joe Walcott
Ezzard Charles
Harold Johnson
Archie Moore
Sonny Liston
Joe Louis
Muhammad Ali
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 15:56
by Adamj1987
Gene Tunney - Tunny
Max Baer - Holy
Joe Walcott - Holy
Ezzard Charles - Holy just
Harold Johnson - tough one johnson i think
Archie Moore - moore
Sonny Liston - Liston
Joe Louis - Louis
Muhammad Ali - Holyfield wins as SD
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 01 Aug 2011, 16:00
by SaadOffTheDeck
I don't think he is beating Ali or Liston.
I think he would struggle mightily with Walcott, slight edge to JJ.
Louis is pretty much a toss up to me, I like that style for Holyfield. But he might take too many clean shots from a Herculean puncher.
Evander as a slight favorite over Tunney & Charles.
He handles Moore, Johnson & Baer convincingly.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 02 Aug 2011, 21:24
by dempseyfire
I like Evander over Baer and Johnson (who would outbox Holyfield but I think Harold's chin lets him down here). He loses to the rest, although Tunney and Charles are close, excellent fights.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 08:32
by The Great John L
Gene Tunney by wide UD
Max Baer loses to Holy by wide UD
Joe Walcott very close fight with slight edge to Holy
Ezzard Charles by close dec
Harold Johnson loses by mid rounds stoppage to Holyfield
Archie Moore loses a close dec
Sonny Liston wins a close dec or by mid-late stoppage.
Joe Louis stops Holyfield inside of 5 rounds.
Muhammad Ali takes a wide UD
So Holyfield goes 4-5
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 03 Aug 2011, 08:53
by Jaywheel
Beats Baer, Walcot 7 out of 10 times, Johnson and Moore. Loses to the rest.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 08 Aug 2011, 23:46
by Klee Gluckman
I think Holyfield will suprise v Liston. Its similar to the Ali fight. Evander won't be imitated, he has the chin and the skill. Holyfield is better than anyone Liston ever beat. If Bowe ( except third fight when Evander seemed very ill) Lewis, Tyson, Foreman aren't stoping Evander. I don't know if Liston is either and Liston can get frustrated as well.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 00:26
by Goodnight, Irene
A prime Foreman would have stopped Holyfield, though.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 00:34
by NazNaci1
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I don't think he is beating Ali or Liston.
I think he would struggle mightily with Walcott, slight edge to JJ.
Louis is pretty much a toss up to me, I like that style for Holyfield. But he might take too many clean shots from a Herculean puncher.
Evander as a slight favorite over Tunney & Charles.
He handles Moore, Johnson & Baer convincingly.
Pretty much agree with you again, Saad.
He is not beating Ali or Liston.
I think Walcott gives Holyfield immense problems and sneaks the win.
Not sure how he can beat Louis. Box him and outspeed him? Until he gets hit. Louis would be too accurate and powerful for him. Holyfield gets a pretty bad beating there.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 02:24
by SaadOffTheDeck
Goodnight, Irene wrote:A prime Foreman would have stopped Holyfield, though.
Nope
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 03:02
by Goodnight, Irene
Holyfield wins again, Saad?
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 03:08
by SaadOffTheDeck
I couldn't say as assuredly as you do the other way around. But I would have a large amount of money on Holyfield. He loves guys that bring him the fight. You can never rule George out. But he would be up against it stylistically.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 03:16
by Goodnight, Irene
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I couldn't say as assuredly as you do the other way around. But I would have a large amount of money on Holyfield. He loves guys that bring him the fight. You can never rule George out. But he would be up against it stylistically.
You're right about the styles. Foreman would hate to be confronted with a hittable fighter who went to war & prided himself on a punch-for-punch fight with anyone who hit him hard enough to get his attention
You are right, I must admit, I am assured of my man getting it done in this fight, 10/10. Holyfield thought Bowe was his Big Daddy, he ain't seen nothin' yet...
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 03:27
by SaadOffTheDeck
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 03:33
by Goodnight, Irene
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 09:19
by The Great John L
Goodnight, Irene wrote:A prime Foreman would have stopped Holyfield, though.
Agreed.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 10:07
by Grimm
ThatOne wrote:Gene Tunney
Max Baer
Joe Walcott
Ezzard Charles
Harold Johnson
Archie Moore
Sonny Liston
Joe Louis
Muhammad Ali
Not to overate Holyfield but I think he has a great time with these smaller heavyweights.
W UD Tunney
W KO Baer
W SD Walcott
W UD Charles
W SD Johnson
W TKO 8 Moore
W UD Liston
D Joe Louis
L UD Ali
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 13 Aug 2011, 23:54
by Evander
Holyfield could fight in any era.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 13 Aug 2011, 23:56
by Goodnight, Irene
Evander wrote:Holyfield could fight in any era.
And you can post in any mental state.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 00:03
by dempseyfire
Grimm wrote:ThatOne wrote:Gene Tunney
Max Baer
Joe Walcott
Ezzard Charles
Harold Johnson
Archie Moore
Sonny Liston
Joe Louis
Muhammad Ali
Not to overate Holyfield but I think he has a great time with these smaller heavyweights.
W UD Tunney
W KO Baer
W SD Walcott
W UD Charles
W SD Johnson
W TKO 8 Moore
W UD Liston
D Joe Louis
L UD Ali
Yeah, b/c he had such an easy time with those smaller guys like Cooper, Moorer, Byrd, Toney, Ruiz, Bean, Qawi etc. Throw in Mercer b/c he wasn't any bigger than Louis, Baer, Liston.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 00:05
by Goodnight, Irene
Personally, I've refrained from picks in this one because I have a hard time assigning favouritism in several of the matchings.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 00:06
by Evander
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Evander wrote:Holyfield could fight in any era.
And you can post in any mental state.
So can you,what's it today ?
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 14 Aug 2011, 00:13
by Goodnight, Irene
I've never been anything on these boards but an asshole, AKA bringer of truth.
You...you're all over the shop, & we love ya for it, ya mug
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Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 20 Aug 2011, 03:40
by jezzamundo
Gene Tunney MD15 Holyfield
Holyfield UD15 Max Baer
Joe Walcott SD15 Holyfield - 50/50 fight.
Holyfield SD15 Ezzard Charles - 50/50 fight.
Holyfield TKO8 Harold Johnson - based on records, I know little of Johnson
Holyfield SD15 Archie Moore - could go either way but I give Holyfield the edge.
Sonny Liston UD15 Holyfield - 9-6 in rounds.
Joe Louis TKO8 Holyfield - competitive early, but Louis takes over to stop Evander.
Muhammad Ali UD15 Holyfield - 10-5 in rounds.
Re: Evander Holyfield V
Posted: 21 Aug 2011, 11:14
by gilgamesh
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I don't think he is beating Ali or Liston.
I think he would struggle mightily with Walcott, slight edge to JJ.
Louis is pretty much a toss up to me, I like that style for Holyfield. But he might take too many clean shots from a Herculean puncher.
Evander as a slight favorite over Tunney & Charles.
He handles Moore, Johnson & Baer convincingly.
I agree with this post