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Aaron Pryor
Roberto Duran
Wilfred Benitez
Naseem Hamed
Meldrick Taylor
JCC SR
Jose Luis Castillo

I think Manny loses to the first three and beats the last four.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I think Manny loses to the first three and beats the last four.

Yeah, that sounds about right. Pryor did tend to get sloppy, but I'm not sure Manny has the punch to keep him down even if he dropped him. It certainly would have been a fan friendly match.

I think Manny beats all besides Duran and JCC sr. I see both of them stopping manny in the late rounds.

Manny loses to :
Pryor
Duran
Benitez
Taylor
Chavez

Wins against:
Castillo
Hammed

Pacquiao & Pryor would easily put on the best show for the fans (better than Pacquiao against Duran, or Chavez) in a tremendous pitch battle. You'd need a trilogy. Either man could win two but would have to lose at least one. Some of the action would be simply Vazquez-Marquez-esque!!!

Pacquiao would be bested by Duran & Benitez, but not be disgraced against either. His activity & angles would make Duran work, & his speed & endurance would test Benitez to an extent as well. Roach pulls Pacquiao out in the corner late, & Benitez earns the UD.

Hamed is a danger fight Pacquiao should nonetheless win. Would be interesting to see the angles each man would go at (to say the least) with their punches, but I'll back Pacquiao's speed & work-rate to win it. KO6.

Taylor was just too hittable, & didn't have the firepower to really hold Pacquiao off down the stretch. I've got Pacquiao by decision.

Chavez & Castillo would both be great tests for Pacquiao. I could see each man waiting for an inside-fight with Pacquiao with nothing but a smile on their faces, & their chins would be a real test of Pacquiao's punch. IMO, it's going to be speed which kills though, & Pacquiao uses it to overcome Chavez's bodyassault (which would definitely take a toll in this fight, IMO) & the larger Castillo's bruising, rough-house style. UD's for Pacquiao here, possibly SD's.

I'm assuming prime conditioning for all involved...

Pacquiao beats Hamed in an early slugfest turned ugly foulfest once Naseem starts playing super-defense pot-shotter

Pacquiao stops Taylor late in a very fast-paced fight where Meldrick takes a horrendous beating but nonetheless makes Pacquiao pay for everything landed.

Pacquiao wins a close decision against Castillo which sees him hurt late. He guts out the last rounds and wins them with his work rate and hand speed.

Pacquiao drops a close decision to Pryor in a brilliant fight that Pryor takes home down the stretch as he adjusts his boxing stance to catch Manny slipping on his defense.

Pacquiao loses a clear decision to Wilfred Benitez, who never does tremendous damage on him but frustrates the hell out of him with speedy defense.

Pacquiao loses a close decision against Chavez where he dazzles early but gets ground down late and nearly stopped from the body work.

Pacquiao gets stopped late by Roberto Duran, who manages to snake his way inside and land really damaging shots while rolling well with what Pacman throws back at him.

Pac beats

Pryor
Castillo

I'm sure on those two.

He loses to

Duran

The rest are close

pacquiao wrecks hamed and benitez. some of these responses startle me.

pac would be competitive with duran imo. his footowork is pretty underrated and he does great against fighters who come forward. he still loses a UD but it would be competitive.

Pacquiao wrecking Benitez. Theres a new one.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Pacquiao wrecking Benitez. Theres a new one.

at 140-147 yes he wrecks benitez. pac imo is severely underrated in fantasy match-ups.

big train express wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Pacquiao wrecking Benitez. Theres a new one.

at 140-147 yes he wrecks benitez. pac imo is severely underrated in fantasy match-ups.

Someone is getting underrated in here, it isn't Pacquaio. Manny would have a tremendous amount of difficulty catching Benitez clean and Wilfred was an excellent counter-puncher. It would be close and Pac could obviously win. But he isn't wrecking a thing.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

big train express wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Pacquiao wrecking Benitez. Theres a new one.

at 140-147 yes he wrecks benitez. pac imo is severely underrated in fantasy match-ups.

Someone is getting underrated in here, it isn't Pacquaio. Manny would have a tremendous amount of difficulty catching Benitez clean and Wilfred was an excellent counter-puncher. It would be close and Pac could obviously win. But he isn't wrecking a thing.

i agree with that assesment pac has had trouble with slick boxers and they dont come much more slick and crafty than Benitez a winnable fight for both men

big train express wrote:Aaron Pryor
Roberto Duran
Wilfred Benitez
Naseem Hamed
Meldrick Taylor
JCC SR
Jose Luis Castillo

Two of these I would bet on.
1. Benitez dominating Pacquiao

2. Duran Winning

pryor and duran i would take to beat manny especialy if the duran fight was at lightweight, benitez and chavez are tough to call and i think you can make a good argument both ways but i think that pac-man beats benitez but loses to jcc as for hamed, taylor and castillo i like pacquiao.

The only one I thin is a clear Pac loss is a prime Duran. Pryor-Pacquao at 140 would've been fireworks, a 50/50 fight in my book.

Benitez would give Pac all sorts of problems but I'm not sure he has the firepower to keep Pac off enough to win a decision. Close fight though.

He beats the rest, including Chavez.

what about arguello & pernell whittaker.

I think Chavez is a great foil to Pac's style. Pacquiao/Pryor on the other hand I see as 50/50.

BarryWashington wrote:

hurlock wrote:what about arguello & pernell whittaker.

whitaker i'd favor highly over pacquiao. pacquiao would try to come jolting in straight forward with his one-two's and pernell would just embarrass him.
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Right, b/c all Pac does is come jolting in with 1-2s

Whitaker could've beaten Pac but talk here of Benitez and Whitaker "embarassing" Pacquao are laughable.

If Whitaker embarrassed Chavez he'd make Pacquiao his bitch. Pacman would be going out like Hurtado.

No way is the Chavez Whitaker faced better than a peak Pacquiao.

I wouldnt even pick the best Chavez to defeat Pacquiao head-on.

Diamond WEAPON wrote:If Whitaker embarrassed Chavez he'd make Pacquiao his bitch. Pacman would be going out like Hurtado.

Typical DW comment . .the welter Chavez would have been BEATEN UP by Pacquao. To allude that that Chavez was better than a peak Manny is laughable. JCC would've plodded forward into straight left hands all night.

BarryWashington wrote:

dempseyfire wrote:

BarryWashington wrote: whitaker i'd favor highly over pacquiao. pacquiao would try to come jolting in straight forward with his one-two's and pernell would just embarrass him.
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Right, b/c all Pac does is come jolting in with 1-2s

Whitaker could've beaten Pac but talk here of Benitez and Whitaker "embarassing" Pacquao are laughable.

Again, Whitaker embarrasses the shit out of Pacquiao. End of discussion.

You can repeat that line all you want, doesn't make it true. Pacquao presents Whitaker with many more issues than Nelson or Chavez.

I agree Barry. Pacquiao is so overrated it's sickening. Whitaker would've mind-raped Pacquiao. Manny's improvement has been entirely predicated on his fighting guys with no legs who just stand there and take a random wild swing here and there when Pacquiao is standing way out of range because when he punches they cover up because they're old, creaky, and scared.

Whitaker would've dodged all that horseshit and smacked Manny like a shoplifter because he isn't a statue like fornicating Clottey. Hurtado knocks Clottey into next week.

BarryWashington wrote:

BarryWashington wrote:

dempseyfire wrote: You can repeat that line all you want, doesn't make it true. Pacquao presents Whitaker with many more issues than Nelson or Chavez.

Who were better defenseman? Chavez or Pacquiao? Nelson or Pacquiao? I'll give you on hint on both: the answer isn't Pacquiao.

Add to the fact that the only time Pacquiao has faced a good defensive fighter (Marquez) - IMO had to rely on the points w/KD's to win both fights. Marquez gave him hell, Whitaker is a much more upgraded version of defensive "wizardry". Go back and re-watch that De La Hoya fight if you need further evidence. De La Hoya in his peak was a better fighter at 147 than Pacquiao and Whitaker made De La Hoya miss VERY MUCH in that fight. And that Whitaker was slightly past his better days, up in weight. You're telling me Pacquiao is going to do well against Whitaker? Really? The only thing that keeps Pacquiao in a fight against a peak Whitaker is his toughness & stamina. Otherwise his body is going to lit up and his exchanges are going to be mostly hitting air or the shoulders/gloves of Pernell. Sorry, bud Pacquiao is the wrong style against Whitaker.

Pacquao has a lot more speed and firepower than a welter Chavez or Nelson . . far more explosive and gave many more angles. It doesn't matter if you think Azumah was a better technical fighter, b/c he lacked the speed to make Pea think twice. DelaHoya DID and sure Pea made him miss a lot, but he was forced to fighting a safety-first, overly defensive fight and that's why he lost on the scorecards. Manny would also force Pea to work much more on not receiving than giving, which is why Whitaker-Pac would be a close fight. I'm not even claiming Pac wins, but to claim he gets dominated by Whitaker is not backed up by reality.