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Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 15 Aug 2011, 11:04
by montrealsuper
Eusebio "El Alarcan" Pedroza. (The Scorpion). WBA Featherweight champ. A record 19 title defenses over seven years. Great fighter but kind of overshadowed when it comes to talk of the greatest featherweight of all time. Overshadowed by other great feathers and also by his countryman Robert Duran who was the big star of Panama. But maybe Pedroza was the greatest. Maybe Sanchez (or his handlers) didn't want to fight him. Here is an interesting interview with Pedroza, where he talks about the "nine punches" of boxing. What do you think the nine punches were? 1 jab 2 hook 3 uppercut 4 right cross 5 right hook 6 body shots 7 8 9??? Pedroza says if you learn the nine punches of boxing you will be world champion.
http://thebiofile.com/2011/08/biofile-w ... o-pedroza/
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 15 Aug 2011, 17:42
by elmersalsa
A very underrated champion. Danny Lopez, nor the great fighters like Wilfredo Gomez, Azumah Nelson nor Salvador Sanchez wanted no part of him.
20 title defenses in 7 years. 10 of them in the opponent's home turf...remarkable. Eusebio Pedroza is an all-time great. No doubt.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 15 Aug 2011, 18:28
by Goodnight, Irene
Excellent boxer who may well have beaten Sanchez, but his nine punches of choice were an elbow, a lacing and a headbutt, followed by six shots below the belt.
All on the refs blindside, naturally.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 15 Aug 2011, 18:35
by SaadOffTheDeck
He was one of my favorites growing up. Definitely a rough customer and it's also disingenuous to come off like Sanchez ducked him. The WBA/WBC were in a TR/GBP type cold war. None of the other guys mentioned avoided him either, but he was an all time great. No matter how bad Rocky Lockridge kicked his ass.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 16 Aug 2011, 13:49
by montrealsuper
Yeah he was just a really good effective fighter who could win on home turf or hostile territory, not a very spectacular fighter like a Leonard, Tyson or Pacquiao, but a damn good one. Maybe more like a Hopkins or Monzon, very smart and just a winner. 5-8 is quite tall for a featherweight. Sanchez was a tremendous warrior too, very hard to say how that one would have went. I'd like to read a story on their common opponents discussing what they think about Pedroza vs. Sanchez.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 16 Aug 2011, 14:05
by SaadOffTheDeck
Patrick Ford may well have beaten Sanchez and Pedroza completely dismantled him.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 16 Aug 2011, 14:12
by The Great John L
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Patrick Ford may well have beaten Sanchez and Pedroza completely dismantled him.
That's what I recall as well, although comon opponents don't always tell the whole story.
I do think Pedroza, who was one of my favorites, would have given Sanchez all he could handle.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 16 Aug 2011, 19:17
by elmersalsa
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He was one of my favorites growing up. Definitely a rough customer and it's also disingenuous to come off like Sanchez ducked him. The WBA/WBC were in a TR/GBP type cold war. None of the other guys mentioned avoided him either, but he was an all time great. No matter how bad Rocky Lockridge kicked his ass.
First of all, it was obvious they ducked him. Pedroza was no easy slouch to begin with. He was tall, quick, with excellent boxing skills and a great jab. Could fight inside and outside and had an extraordinary body attack and also, like Sanchez, had extraordinary stamina. I could see why they avoided him: Too much risk and not enough pay.
Secondly, he whupped Lockridge, not once, but twice. I don't know what fight you was watching.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 16 Aug 2011, 19:31
by elmersalsa
Pedroza was too detrimental for these so called stars of the early 80s. Danny Lopez never unified the crowns and I could see why. Salvador Sanchez? the same way. Wilfredo Gomez? He lost to Sanchez and when Sanchez died, he went after Juan LaPorte's crown instead of Pedroza's....I wonder why. Pedroza whupped LaPorte. Gomez did not wanted to be another Pedroza's victim. And when Gomez took the title from Rocky Lockridge at 130lbs, he said that he was gonna give Pedroza a title shot. What happened to that title shot? Pedroza is still waiting until this day. Azumah Nelson? Pedroza called him and the so called "Professor" looked the other way. And Sanchez, instead of unify the crowns to see who was the best featherweight in the world, wanted a fight with a fading all-time great in Alexis Arguello at 135lbs. That reminded me the same thing of what Benny "Kid" Paret did. He did not wanted to fight the great Emile Griffith for a third fight after he "regained" the crown from Griffith. A fight that I don't know what the judges saw. Griffith did not lose that fight. Paret chose to jump 13 pounds and fight middleweight champ Gene Fullmer, instead. Fullmer wasted him and he did not had no choice to fight Griffith again. That is what Sanchez wanted to do.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 17 Aug 2011, 04:11
by Counter-puncher
people 'ducked' Pedrosa? maybe they didn't want to get punched in the balls a dozen times a round. and I didn't see him whupping Laporte. Laporte was well in the fight till Pedrosa put a bombinmg raid in on his balls.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 17 Aug 2011, 06:38
by SaadOffTheDeck
elmersalsa wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He was one of my favorites growing up. Definitely a rough customer and it's also disingenuous to come off like Sanchez ducked him. The WBA/WBC were in a TR/GBP type cold war. None of the other guys mentioned avoided him either, but he was an all time great. No matter how bad Rocky Lockridge kicked his ass.
First of all, it was obvious they ducked him. Pedroza was no easy slouch to begin with. He was tall, quick, with excellent boxing skills and a great jab. Could fight inside and outside and had an extraordinary body attack and also, like Sanchez, had extraordinary stamina. I could see why they avoided him: Too much risk and not enough pay.
Secondly, he whupped Lockridge, not once, but twice. I don't know what fight you was watching.
This whole post is garbage. How did they avoid him? _______________________________________________.
Pedroza kicked Rocky's ass? You're a _________ ______.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 17 Aug 2011, 06:40
by SaadOffTheDeck
elmersalsa wrote:Pedroza was too detrimental for these so called stars of the early 80s. Danny Lopez never unified the crowns and I could see why. Salvador Sanchez? the same way. Wilfredo Gomez? He lost to Sanchez and when Sanchez died, he went after Juan LaPorte's crown instead of Pedroza's....I wonder why. Pedroza whupped LaPorte. Gomez did not wanted to be another Pedroza's victim. And when Gomez took the title from Rocky Lockridge at 130lbs, he said that he was gonna give Pedroza a title shot. What happened to that title shot? Pedroza is still waiting until this day. Azumah Nelson? Pedroza called him and the so called "Professor" looked the other way. And Sanchez, instead of unify the crowns to see who was the best featherweight in the world, wanted a fight with a fading all-time great in Alexis Arguello at 135lbs. That reminded me the same thing of what Benny "Kid" Paret did. He did not wanted to fight the great Emile Griffith for a third fight after he "regained" the crown from Griffith. A fight that I don't know what the judges saw. Griffith did not lose that fight. Paret chose to jump 13 pounds and fight middleweight champ Gene Fullmer, instead. Fullmer wasted him and he did not had no choice to fight Griffith again. That is what Sanchez wanted to do.
Sanchez died, that's going the extra mile to get out of a fight.

Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 17 Aug 2011, 06:47
by Counter-puncher
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 20 Aug 2011, 01:13
by Blue
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:elmersalsa wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:He was one of my favorites growing up. Definitely a rough customer and it's also disingenuous to come off like Sanchez ducked him. The WBA/WBC were in a TR/GBP type cold war. None of the other guys mentioned avoided him either, but he was an all time great. No matter how bad Rocky Lockridge kicked his ass.
First of all, it was obvious they ducked him. Pedroza was no easy slouch to begin with. He was tall, quick, with excellent boxing skills and a great jab. Could fight inside and outside and had an extraordinary body attack and also, like Sanchez, had extraordinary stamina. I could see why they avoided him: Too much risk and not enough pay.
Secondly, he whupped Lockridge, not once, but twice. I don't know what fight you was watching.
This whole post is garbage. How did they avoid him? _______________________________________________.
Pedroza kicked Rocky's ass? You're a _________ ______.
Go watch the fights without the sound.
Lockridge clearly lost both fights with Pedroza; and in Rocky’s own hometown.
Bob Arum, Lou Duva were the matchmaker/promoters for CBS TV and Homie
Harold Letterman was the only judge to vote for him in the first fight.
And yes, it was a well known topic that Sanchez refused to fight Pedroza.
Why do you have insult people who disagree with you?
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 20 Aug 2011, 01:17
by SaadOffTheDeck
Blue wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:elmersalsa wrote:
First of all, it was obvious they ducked him. Pedroza was no easy slouch to begin with. He was tall, quick, with excellent boxing skills and a great jab. Could fight inside and outside and had an extraordinary body attack and also, like Sanchez, had extraordinary stamina. I could see why they avoided him: Too much risk and not enough pay.
Secondly, he whupped Lockridge, not once, but twice. I don't know what fight you was watching.
This whole post is garbage. How did they avoid him? _______________________________________________.
Pedroza kicked Rocky's ass? You're a _________ ______.
Why do you have insult people who disagree with you?
I don't know _______, I guess it's a character flaw.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 20 Aug 2011, 01:21
by Goodnight, Irene
Blue wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:elmersalsa wrote:
First of all, it was obvious they ducked him. Pedroza was no easy slouch to begin with. He was tall, quick, with excellent boxing skills and a great jab. Could fight inside and outside and had an extraordinary body attack and also, like Sanchez, had extraordinary stamina. I could see why they avoided him: Too much risk and not enough pay.
Secondly, he whupped Lockridge, not once, but twice. I don't know what fight you was watching.
This whole post is garbage. How did they avoid him? _______________________________________________.
Pedroza kicked Rocky's ass? You're a _________ ______.
Go watch the fights without the sound.
Lockridge clearly lost both fights with Pedroza; and in Rocky’s own hometown.
Bob Arum, Lou Duva were the matchmaker/promoters for CBS TV and Homie
Harold Letterman was the only judge to vote for him in the first fight.
And yes, it was a well known topic that Sanchez refused to fight Pedroza.
Why do you have insult people who disagree with you?
Actually, I kinda get it.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 20 Aug 2011, 09:18
by Rocky Balboa
elmersalsa wrote:A very underrated champion. Danny Lopez, nor the great fighters like Wilfredo Gomez, Azumah Nelson nor Salvador Sanchez wanted no part of him.
20 title defenses in 7 years. 10 of them in the opponent's home turf...remarkable. Eusebio Pedroza is an all-time great. No doubt.
I agree, but to say Sanchez wanted no part of him is inaccurate. Can you really see Sanchez wanting no part of any fighter? Really? Salvador didn't duck anyone & he'd have beaten Pedroza had they fought. Purely my opinion!

Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 20 Aug 2011, 10:33
by SaadOffTheDeck
Nah, that's past your opinion. It's an old wives tale. The WBA vs WBC cold war is why that fight didn't take place. Just like Palomino vs Cuevas, some fights just don't happen. It isn't always about "ducking" or "horror". It's like a sewing circle and the information gets more and more jaded as the years pass by.
Aaron Pryor & Mike McCallum were "ducked" by guys from different divisions. Some will even go as far as to say that Erik Morales ducked JMM. It's foul comedy.
I can assure you, at the time, nobody was talking about Sanchez avoiding Pedroza. We all just wanted to see the fight.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 22 Aug 2011, 10:26
by montrealsuper
I was a kid back then around the time Sanchez and Pedroza were champions. At the time, there really wasn't a big demand to see it, we would have watched it if they made it, but boxing fans were more captivated by the 147 drama (Duran,, SRL, Benitez, Hitman Hearns) and the HWT division. It would have been a good fight if they made it but the fans really didn't call for it. Maybe we understood with the WBA/WBC situation it wasn't likely. And though they were both great fighters, there really wasn't that Puerto Rico-Mexico natural rivalry there. Pedroza being from Panama was kind of a mysterious outsider, like a McCallum and Margarito in 2006. But you can't say Sanchez ducked anyone, that's inaccurate.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 11:41
by Ezzard
How many Pedroza fights were broadcast in the USA? The only fight shown in the UK was the McGuigan fight.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 13:43
by SaadOffTheDeck
A lot of them, just going off the top of my head. Laporte, Castanon, Ford, Lockridge x2 & Bernard taylor. And I'm sure I missed a few.
Re: Eusebio Pedroza interview
Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 04:14
by Ezzard
Lucky b@$t@rd$!!!