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Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 22 Aug 2011, 09:49
by Spiker
He's keeping us waiting a bit isnt he!
Is he to embarrassed after the toegate thing to come back?
if he does will he still have a supportive following?
i'm sure these things must be going through his mind more than who he will fight next :!:

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 22 Aug 2011, 12:49
by SAPFO
The only way he can recover any credibility is to fight Vitali and go out on his shield. With Groves moving on though where does this leave Haymaker?

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 22 Aug 2011, 13:29
by ThereByTheGrace
He'll be back in a few years - letting the furore die down, then have a year or 2 off and back for a warm up fight in London against a no-name hw.

Many fans will pay to watch him on his return - but not me.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 22 Aug 2011, 14:56
by Finn
ThereByTheGrace wrote:He'll be back in a few years - letting the furore die down, then have a year or 2 off and back for a warm up fight in London against a no-name hw.

Many fans will pay to watch him on his return - but not me.
I cant see it, his style relies on speed, once a few years have past especially inactive ones it will pointless him coming back. His time is now, he should go out all guns blazing imo - win or loose thats what gains you respect people love a valant looser just as much as they like a winner in this country. If he retires now he would be labeled a fraud and rightly so. He's made his money from his fans now he needs to show it was for something.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 22 Aug 2011, 15:12
by TJ77
i hope so he is just an embarrasment slags off audley then does the same thing at least dick turpin wore a mask good riddance

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 15:34
by Big-Beryl
ThereByTheGrace wrote:He'll be back in a few years - letting the furore die down, then have a year or 2 off and back for a warm up fight in London against a no-name hw.

Many fans will pay to watch him on his return - but not me.
X2 :TU:

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 15:42
by zero
Steve Bunce reckons he (Haye) will attend the Povetkin – Chaguev fight looking to fight the winner.

Haye, could still have a career at Heavyweight fighting contenders. He did last the distance with the monstrous Wlad, albeit he was beating convincingly.

There are decent and very hard opponents out there Adamek, Solis, and Povetkin. K2 won’t last forever, 2 years and I think both will have retired. It’s getting to the point they (K2) will be struggling to get fights, simply due to their dominance.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 15:45
by Karl Jade
kingfinn wrote:
ThereByTheGrace wrote:He'll be back in a few years - letting the furore die down, then have a year or 2 off and back for a warm up fight in London against a no-name hw.

Many fans will pay to watch him on his return - but not me.
I cant see it, his style relies on speed, once a few years have past especially inactive ones it will pointless him coming back. His time is now, he should go out all guns blazing imo - win or loose thats what gains you respect people love a valant looser just as much as they like a winner in this country. If he retires now he would be labeled a fraud and rightly so. He's made his money from his fans now he needs to show it was for something.
Yeah, once his athleticism goes he's done. His stamina is poor as it is.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 23 Aug 2011, 18:35
by jamesmcdonnell
zero wrote:Steve Bunce reckons he (Haye) will attend the Povetkin – Chaguev fight looking to fight the winner.

Haye, could still have a career at Heavyweight fighting contenders. He did last the distance with the monstrous Wlad, albeit he was beating convincingly.

There are decent and very hard opponents out there Adamek, Solis, and Povetkin. K2 won’t last forever, 2 years and I think both will have retired. It’s getting to the point they (K2) will be struggling to get fights, simply due to their dominance.
I can see this scenario. Adamek will probably be gone in a couple of years too.Cannot see him sticking at heavyweight long, and he's going to get a whupping off of Vitali.


Vitali will be gone soon, and Wlad is likely to run out of decent opponents.

Haye will probably have another crack, he could probably beat Chagaev or Povetkin, neither have looked impressive in some time.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 02:33
by bugs
zero wrote:Steve Bunce reckons he (Haye) will attend the Povetkin – Chaguev fight looking to fight the winner.

Haye, could still have a career at Heavyweight fighting contenders. He did last the distance with the monstrous Wlad, albeit he was beating convincingly.

There are decent and very hard opponents out there Adamek, Solis, and Povetkin. K2 won’t last forever, 2 years and I think both will have retired. It’s getting to the point they (K2) will be struggling to get fights, simply due to their dominance.
It would be hard to find anyone since the first Sam fight that actually did better than Haye, he won a few rounds, staggered Wlad and marked him up quite a bit. I was annoyed and wanted him to push it, but still, he did ok in compasion to most other active heavies out there. Don't see why he should retire if they have not, to be honest I would like to see a rematch, now Haye himself knows he can last the distance . . . But would be hhappy to see him fight Adamek (although they could have stayed at lower weights for that) or Povetkin.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 05:03
by nobby_nobbins
Well, Haye showed what he was made of after being written off following the Thompson loss, so I'd be surprised if he just bowed out quietly.

Fury is having trouble finding an opponent and Haye needs to step back and regroup. So why not Haye v Fury?

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 05:43
by deadpan
If he announces a Press Conference to declare he's quitting his career will peter out so damply that even a wet squib would mock it.

Which doesn't sound like Haye's style.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 05:50
by zero
nobby_nobbins wrote:Well, Haye showed what he was made of after being written off following the Thompson loss, so I'd be surprised if he just bowed out quietly.

Fury is having trouble finding an opponent and Haye needs to step back and regroup. So why not Haye v Fury?
Haye will be looking further than Fury, Hopefully he fights again, Adamek would be good fight for him in May or June.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 08:34
by Final round
Well he's not retiring, he said he wasn't after the fight! He believed he was going to chin the Chuckle Bros and ride off into the lights of Hollywood. No doubt he'll fight again.

The winner of Chag and Povetkin, a fight with Arreola would be tough but be good for his profile over there if he won.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 09:09
by Ezzard
I hope he fights on. He’s usually an exciting fighter. No shame in losing to Wlad. Took more rounds off him than anyone else in 6 years.

I think the Audley fight saw many turn against Haye. It did feel like a public execution. Good for David’s bank balance but not the sport or his standing.

I hope he comes back and makes a point by beating a few top contenders and eventually rematches Wlad.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 09:59
by charlieb
With Haye's best interests at heart, there's just too much potential for a bad situation to be made worse if he continues.

Normally when a fighter loses, expectation and pressure drop away, but in Haye's case the release hasn't come from defeat. Right now he's in the position of scolded loudmouth ala Naz. For Haye, defeat has basically balanced the books in terms of karma, he built up a slate with his sales pitch and the most he can expect from defeat is that the haters as well as the gentle souls gravely offended by his verbal shenanigans, are sated.

Outside of a return bout with Wlad or a shot at Vitali, the only way he can regain stature is to come back and clobber a few good men. I say a few because you can't lose to the division's apex fighter (after slagging him silly), blame it on a gammy toe and then beat a contender and hope for a hero's welcome.

That's where the harsh reality of this sport comes into play. This isn't a movie and the likelihood of one of those contenders Haye had previously labelled fat and slow, laying him out cold, is quite high.

It's a gamble, either play it like Naz, enjoy your money away from the spotlight and then emerge from exile at some point down the line, hoping all is forgiven. Or play it fearless and get right back in the saddle.

With PPV off the table and Booth unwilling, I just can't see a comeback bout materialising.

I don't know where Haye is mentally right now. He's remained relatively silent after being hauled over the coals, from the sh*t-rag tabloid backlash to the teen chav twats on twitter getting lippy, his lack of communication makes it hard to gauge if he's taking it all in his stride, or whether it's consuming him.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 10:33
by keithmoonhangover
Final round wrote:Well he's not retiring, he said he wasn't after the fight! He believed he was going to chin the Chuckle Bros and ride off into the lights of Hollywood. No doubt he'll fight again.

The winner of Chag and Povetkin, a fight with Arreola would be tough but be good for his profile over there if he won.
Povektin would knock Haye out, in a year's time, Povetkin will be #1 in the world.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 10:48
by zero
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Final round wrote:Well he's not retiring, he said he wasn't after the fight! He believed he was going to chin the Chuckle Bros and ride off into the lights of Hollywood. No doubt he'll fight again.

The winner of Chag and Povetkin, a fight with Arreola would be tough but be good for his profile over there if he won.
Povektin would knock Haye out, in a year's time, Povetkin will be #1 in the world.
K2 will still dominate in a years time, Povetkin has ducked them already claiming he isn’t ready!!

Everybody including myself thought Wlad would KO Haye, he didn’t. I would fancy Haye to stop Povetkin.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 12:02
by keithmoonhangover
zero wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Final round wrote:Well he's not retiring, he said he wasn't after the fight! He believed he was going to chin the Chuckle Bros and ride off into the lights of Hollywood. No doubt he'll fight again.

The winner of Chag and Povetkin, a fight with Arreola would be tough but be good for his profile over there if he won.
Povektin would knock Haye out, in a year's time, Povetkin will be #1 in the world.
K2 will still dominate in a years time, Povetkin has ducked them already claiming he isn’t ready!!

Everybody including myself thought Wlad would KO Haye, he didn’t. I would fancy Haye to stop Povetkin.
Not a chance IMHO. Povetkin would take Haye out. I'm a Haye fan BTW, but Povetkin is in a different league.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 12:25
by crusader
zero wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Final round wrote:Well he's not retiring, he said he wasn't after the fight! He believed he was going to chin the Chuckle Bros and ride off into the lights of Hollywood. No doubt he'll fight again.

The winner of Chag and Povetkin, a fight with Arreola would be tough but be good for his profile over there if he won.
Povektin would knock Haye out, in a year's time, Povetkin will be #1 in the world.
K2 will still dominate in a years time, Povetkin has ducked them already claiming he isn’t ready!!

Everybody including myself thought Wlad would KO Haye, he didn’t. I would fancy Haye to stop Povetkin.
????????

Many people picked Haye to beat Wlad, and even some of the people that picked Wlad thought the fight would go the distance.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 13:26
by SAPFO
Haye v Povetkin !

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2011, 14:16
by zero
crusader wrote:
zero wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote: Povektin would knock Haye out, in a year's time, Povetkin will be #1 in the world.
K2 will still dominate in a years time, Povetkin has ducked them already claiming he isn’t ready!!

Everybody including myself thought Wlad would KO Haye, he didn’t. I would fancy Haye to stop Povetkin.
????????

Many people picked Haye to beat Wlad, and even some of the people that picked Wlad thought the fight would go the distance.
After I posted the bold bit, I thought man that will come back and bite me….. :wink:

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 25 Aug 2011, 11:09
by Crease
He's waiting to see the Vitali fight against Adamek.
:TU: :box:

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 25 Aug 2011, 14:53
by Maxsplit
Crease wrote:He's waiting to see the Vitali fight against Adamek.
:TU: :box:
Of course he is :TU:

If - against the odds -Adamek runs Vitali suprisingly close OR somehow knocks him out, I'm quite certain the Hayemaker will step in to fight the winner.

It makes sense to hold tight at the moment for him.

Re: Is Haye Retiring ?

Posted: 25 Aug 2011, 15:52
by hitman_hatton1
hope he sticks around for a few more fights.

fight a couple of contenders and earn a shot. :box: