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The odds are just beyond stacked in Broner's favoured. It's not that I feel Broner is just that much better than Burns. It's the fact that

-The fight is in Broner's Hometown.

-Broner is managed by Al Haymon who's fighter always seem to get close or decisions they don't deserve.

-Burns dosent have that 1 punch KO power. So saying he needs to go over & KO Broner so they can't deny him, is hard to imagine. As Ricky just dosen't posses that type of power.

-Burns has NEVER fought out of the UK.

-Am also thinking the occasion MAY get to Burns. Big HBO fight, In The USA, Fighting A Loudmouth who is gonna talk tons of trash.

Am finding it hard to bet against Broner here......

Cotto16 wrote:The odds are just beyond stacked in Broner's favoured. It's not that I feel Broner is just that much better than Burns. It's the fact that

-The fight is in Broner's Hometown.

-Broner is managed by Al Haymon who's fighter always seem to get close or decisions they don't deserve.

-Burns dosent have that 1 punch KO power. So saying he needs to go over & KO Broner so they can't deny him, is hard to imagine. As Ricky just dosen't posses that type of power.

-Burns has NEVER fought out of the UK.

-Am also thinking the occasion MAY get to Burns. Big HBO fight, In The USA, Fighting A Loudmouth who is gonna talk tons of trash.

Am finding it hard to bet against Broner here......

Rest assured mate theres no way Ricky bricks it againt Broner he'd fight anyone anywhere, more like Boner doing it when he relises that when he hits Ricky he'll get hit back and hard and very regular

Dont get why everyone is so terrified of Broner. You'd think he was the second coming of Tyson the way people are going on. I think Burns has demonstrated he can box a bit himself! Ponce De Leon gave Broner fits for god's sake!

Trojans44 wrote:Dont get why everyone is so terrified of Broner. You'd think he was the second coming of Tyson the way people are going on. I think Burns has demonstrated he can box a bit himself! Ponce De Leon gave Broner fits for god's sake!

And Ponce is as crude as they come. But he is as strong as anyone ever to grace the division too.

Respect to Ricky for taking the challenge. This is what it's all about. Taking that belt and proving your no1.

I have far more respect for anyone who takes that approach than fights gimme's, so Burn's earns mine, win or lose.

Watch the Ponce De Leon fight which Broner should have clearly lost. Then you'll see how Burns can beat this over rated yank

sing it

"Hes Just a Small Jeff Lacey , smalll Jeff Laceeeeeeeey"

i havent saw anything off Broner apart from bit on Ringside last nite
Looks solid but that one thing for Sure is Burns wont Brick it hes a confident as they come

Josh1111 wrote:Watch the Ponce De Leon fight which Broner should have clearly lost. Then you'll see how Burns can beat this over rated yank

Burns has go what hes wanted, a live opponent.
Ive seen Broner twice, his last 2 fights and he's definately beatable although Burns is gonna need to be capable of another "Martinez night" to pull this one off.

I cant see the travelling being an issue, he's been a pro for a long time now and is well experienced for his youngish age.

Also the "Trash Talking" wont be an issue, this is the same guy who listened to Gomez talk nonsense before going out and destroying him and also the same guy who laughed when Martinez done the slit throat gesture. Burns likes to do his talking in the ring and hopefully he doesnt get robbed if this goes to the cards.

I hope everyone remembers these posts referring to the quality of Broner IF Burns wins, similar statements were being made when the Martinez fight was lined up and over time the memories faded to say "Hes a straight forward slugger" and taking credit away from the result.

Im by no means saying im 100% confident that Burns will win, i think hes capable of doing so and if he does then it will be another fantastic night for Scottish/British Boxing. (Scottish being the more important of the two) lol

Josh1111 wrote:Watch the Ponce De Leon fight which Broner should have clearly lost. Then you'll see how Burns can beat this over rated yank

by turning himself into a wide-swinging mexican southpaw?

billy nelson wrote:

Cotto16 wrote:The odds are just beyond stacked in Broner's favoured. It's not that I feel Broner is just that much better than Burns. It's the fact that

-The fight is in Broner's Hometown.

-Broner is managed by Al Haymon who's fighter always seem to get close or decisions they don't deserve.

-Burns dosent have that 1 punch KO power. So saying he needs to go over & KO Broner so they can't deny him, is hard to imagine. As Ricky just dosen't posses that type of power.

-Burns has NEVER fought out of the UK.

-Am also thinking the occasion MAY get to Burns. Big HBO fight, In The USA, Fighting A Loudmouth who is gonna talk tons of trash.

Am finding it hard to bet against Broner here......

Rest assured mate theres no way Ricky bricks it againt Broner he'd fight anyone anywhere, more like Boner doing it when he relises that when he hits Ricky he'll get hit back and hard and very regular

I just wish you were right but he's just might as well sell his title on Ebay.
This is a TRULLY (and I mean TRULLY) dumb move.

Props to Ricky for taking the fight but shame on the promoter who has sold him down the river.

I do not think Broner is a massive fav here as Burns definately has the chin and boxing skills to do a good points job on him. Only thing is I cannot see Burns getting anywhere near to a stoppage so then just hope there is no hometown scoring going on and the fight is scored fairly.

Come on Ricky, time to prove you are a worthy champ.

For me, Burns is a domestic operator, Euro at best. You couldn't have asked for an easier route to world honours than Martinez, barring the belt being made vacant and handed straight to him.

I don't rate Broner as a future star, nothing like it, but I'd still say he's a level above Burns if I'm being honest. He's certainly more formidable than the likes of Martinez, nowhere near as slow, crude and predictable, and even in the event that Burns is able to outbox him, I don't think he'll be able to avoid Broner's best in the same way that he was able to fend off and cope with Martinez.

I hope I'm wrong, I like Burns, but I really can't see this ending well for him.

Broner is certainly beatable. He rarely presses the action and the Litzau win needs to be viewed in full to see how it actually went.

No doubt Broner can punch, as Litzau is no bum but all three of his defeats came via stoppage.

Burns needs to feint and work his socks off for 12, which I know he can do. He just needs to be cute and not walk onto anything foolish.

Acording to Paper burns is in for 200,000 pay day

probably not that acurate but none the less you need to go where the money is
Clearly Broner has the backing of Promoters stateside and they will almost always Pay more.

Jon Saxon wrote:

billy nelson wrote:

Cotto16 wrote:The odds are just beyond stacked in Broner's favoured. It's not that I feel Broner is just that much better than Burns. It's the fact that

-The fight is in Broner's Hometown.

-Broner is managed by Al Haymon who's fighter always seem to get close or decisions they don't deserve.

-Burns dosent have that 1 punch KO power. So saying he needs to go over & KO Broner so they can't deny him, is hard to imagine. As Ricky just dosen't posses that type of power.

-Burns has NEVER fought out of the UK.

-Am also thinking the occasion MAY get to Burns. Big HBO fight, In The USA, Fighting A Loudmouth who is gonna talk tons of trash.

Am finding it hard to bet against Broner here......

Rest assured mate theres no way Ricky bricks it againt Broner he'd fight anyone anywhere, more like Boner doing it when he relises that when he hits Ricky he'll get hit back and hard and very regular

I just wish you were right but he's just might as well sell his title on Ebay.
This is a TRULLY (and I mean TRULLY) dumb move.

Props to Ricky for taking the fight but shame on the promoter who has sold him down the river.

If Ricky wins this it will really be a creditworthy victory. It's a massive challenge in every way, I don't see him having the speed to cope with Broner but I hope he proves me wrong. i think Martinez was an incredible victory and he will need to be at least on that level to have a chance in this one IMHO

of all the upcoming fights (involving irish & brits), this is the one i'm looking forward to the most

What is everyone else looking at when they see Broner? Some of you make him out to be the best prospect in world boxing right now! In my opinion he is definitely not that. He's good don't get me wrong but some people have gone a bit overboard on him.

Have you watched the fight with Litzau? What impressed you more? His throwing of single shots inbetween periods of inactive posturing (call it the feeling out process but I'll call it what I did) or his taking advantage of Litzau's low left hand and then smashing him up when Litzau's guard was as tight as George Michael's mouth on Hampstead Heath.

He's quick, and he looks strong but he also looks open. When he swings that wide left hook to the head or body his right hand isn't kept tight against his chin and he doesnt always bring the left hand straight back after throwing it. His stance is also pretty wide which reduces some of his mobility (not saying he has bad mobility but just that he is hurting himself with his stance). This stance also increases the degree to which he has to punch up on the already bigger by 3 inches Burns. Maybe you think punching up at a taller opponent is better than having to punch down on a smaller one, but I'd disagree with you, hence my point.

The fight is not an easy one for either fighter and that is why it is a good one.

Jon Saxon wrote: I just wish you were right but he's just might as well sell his title on Ebay.
This is a TRULLY (and I mean TRULLY) dumb move.

Props to Ricky for taking the fight but shame on the promoter who has sold him down the river.

What the f**k has happened to boxing that people now think that taking a risky fight, away from home, when you're the champion is a bad idea. Isn't it about proving yourself as the best in your weight so that you don't sound like a f**king idiot by claiming to be the best without ever testing out your theory? Or are we all mini Don Kings and FW's just looking to make as much money out of the title while we have it by having easy defences at home so that people like us can come on here and spout off about how fighter X is getting sppon fed defences?

charlieb wrote:For me, Burns is a domestic operator, Euro at best. You couldn't have asked for an easier route to world honours than Martinez

So winning a world title against the guy rated #1 or #2 in your division is an easy way to a title. Yep that makes perfect sense. So does now being rated #2 or #3 in the world yourself but just being a domestic operator.

Martinez was seen as someone that Burns had no chance against by the majority. It was all "fair play to Ricky for taking his last chance at a world title, but he won't win" Well look how that theory worked out!!

While they are terrific fighters, I for one would have more respect for people like Calzaghe if they had been more prepared to go after the bigger challeneges out there. I am a huge JC fan, but he will never be forgiven for not going to Germany, smashing up Sven Ottke. It would have made everyone see that Ottke was not #1 and would of also wiped away that L=0 column that the judges in Germany were so reluctant to take from Ottke's record.


This move by Ricky Burns deserves nothing but praise and I for one can't wait to be Ringside cheering him on!

p.s.

Cotto16 wrote:A Loudmouth who is gonna talk tons of trash

You've obviously never been to Coatbridge mate

Who are these ppl who think Boner is the best prospect in the world? I know HBO big him up a bit but i didnt think many ppl were sold on him.

Having said that Burns will have to fight out of his skin to get the decision in the US. Either that or gag Boner so he cant make that grunting sound whenever he throws a punch.

GAV wrote:What is everyone else looking at when they see Broner? Some of you make him out to be the best prospect in world boxing right now! In my opinion he is definitely not that. He's good don't get me wrong but some people have gone a bit overboard on him.

Have you watched the fight with Litzau? What impressed you more? His throwing of single shots inbetween periods of inactive posturing (call it the feeling out process but I'll call it what I did) or his taking advantage of Litzau's low left hand and then smashing him up when Litzau's guard was as tight as George Michael's mouth on Hampstead Heath.

He's quick, and he looks strong but he also looks open. When he swings that wide left hook to the head or body his right hand isn't kept tight against his chin and he doesnt always bring the left hand straight back after throwing it. His stance is also pretty wide which reduces some of his mobility (not saying he has bad mobility but just that he is hurting himself with his stance). This stance also increases the degree to which he has to punch up on the already bigger by 3 inches Burns. Maybe you think punching up at a taller opponent is better than having to punch down on a smaller one, but I'd disagree with you, hence my point.

The fight is not an easy one for either fighter and that is why it is a good one.

Jon Saxon wrote: I just wish you were right but he's just might as well sell his title on Ebay.
This is a TRULLY (and I mean TRULLY) dumb move.

Props to Ricky for taking the fight but shame on the promoter who has sold him down the river.

What the f**k has happened to boxing that people now think that taking a risky fight, away from home, when you're the champion is a bad idea. Isn't it about proving yourself as the best in your weight so that you don't sound like a f**king idiot by claiming to be the best without ever testing out your theory? Or are we all mini Don Kings and FW's just looking to make as much money out of the title while we have it by having easy defences at home so that people like us can come on here and spout off about how fighter X is getting sppon fed defences?

charlieb wrote:For me, Burns is a domestic operator, Euro at best. You couldn't have asked for an easier route to world honours than Martinez

So winning a world title against the guy rated #1 or #2 in your division is an easy way to a title. Yep that makes perfect sense. So does now being rated #2 or #3 in the world yourself but just being a domestic operator.

Martinez was seen as someone that Burns had no chance against by the majority. It was all "fair play to Ricky for taking his last chance at a world title, but he won't win" Well look how that theory worked out!!

While they are terrific fighters, I for one would have more respect for people like Calzaghe if they had been more prepared to go after the bigger challeneges out there. I am a huge JC fan, but he will never be forgiven for not going to Germany, smashing up Sven Ottke. It would have made everyone see that Ottke was not #1 and would of also wiped away that L=0 column that the judges in Germany were so reluctant to take from Ottke's record.


This move by Ricky Burns deserves nothing but praise and I for one can't wait to be Ringside cheering him on!

p.s.

Cotto16 wrote:A Loudmouth who is gonna talk tons of trash

You've obviously never been to Coatbridge mate

Coatbridge is a nice area what about it?

charlieb wrote:For me, Burns is a domestic operator, Euro at best. You couldn't have asked for an easier route to world honours than Martinez, barring the belt being made vacant and handed straight to him.

I don't rate Broner as a future star, nothing like it, but I'd still say he's a level above Burns if I'm being honest. He's certainly more formidable than the likes of Martinez, nowhere near as slow, crude and predictable, and even in the event that Burns is able to outbox him, I don't think he'll be able to avoid Broner's best in the same way that he was able to fend off and cope with Martinez.

I hope I'm wrong, I like Burns, but I really can't see this ending well for him.

Stop talking shit mate,if you got hit with matinez's left hook in the 7th you'd still be sleeping.

goldenears wrote:If Ricky wins this it will really be a creditworthy victory. It's a massive challenge in every way, I don't see him having the speed to cope with Broner but I hope he proves me wrong. i think Martinez was an incredible victory and he will need to be at least on that level to have a chance in this one IMHO

Apart from the left hook of Broners Rickys quicker throwns more shots and a better selection of punches imo

Jon Saxon wrote:Coatbridge is a nice area what about it?

Whatever your opinion on the area, my point was, if anyone thinks that Ricky is going to get put off/mentally impacted by Broner talking shite then you've never experienced the abuse you can get in Coatbridge.

GAV wrote:

Jon Saxon wrote:Coatbridge is a nice area what about it?

Whatever your opinion on the area, my point was, if anyone thinks that Ricky is going to get put off/mentally impacted by Broner talking shite then you've never experienced the abuse you can get in Coatbridge.

Cool, I always thought Coatbridge was posh compared to where I grew up:-)

You are right shitetalk means nothing in the ring, I hope Ricky chins him but I just have a feeling that even if it goes to the scorecards he's getting robbed.

Gazmac81 wrote:sing it

"Hes Just a Small Jeff Lacey , smalll Jeff Laceeeeeeeey"

i havent saw anything off Broner apart from bit on Ringside last nite
Looks solid but that one thing for Sure is Burns wont Brick it hes a confident as they come

Josh1111 wrote:Watch the Ponce De Leon fight which Broner should have clearly lost. Then you'll see how Burns can beat this over rated yank

Problem is that Burns is no Calzaghe.

It's a tough tough fight but Burns is the underdog with loads of courage, ability, heart and discipline.

Broner is still very young and Burns HAS to start well in the first 3 rounds to have any chance - If he starts like he did against Martinez it'll be tough.

It's a win-win for Burns now; the weakness of the division has ultimately led to this; if he loses then he went abroad and took the challenge on and can keep his head held high with his reputation still good in the UK where he can come back and fight Mitchell/murray etc and make more money.

If he wins then he goes down in Scottish folklore as a World Champion who fought the best there was in their own backyard and sent them home to think again!

I'm just looking forward to the fight May the best man win on the night!

Counter-puncher wrote:

Josh1111 wrote:Watch the Ponce De Leon fight which Broner should have clearly lost. Then you'll see how Burns can beat this over rated yank

by turning himself into a wide-swinging mexican southpaw?