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Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 18:01
by alexpaterson
Before tonight I gave Haye a decent chance against the less mobile, easier to hit, slower Klitschko but there's no way he would make a dent in the big man. Klitschko would steam roll him and I think he could get it done early

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 18:02
by Ketchel
Vitali all the way!

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 10 Sep 2011, 18:11
by Final round
Should be in different divisions

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 03:10
by ScottDetonator
Vitali makes Haye look even dafter if it happens. The bookies will have him 1-10 on to win. The fight will only serve to make Haye another couple of million with him pulling out as soon as the going gets tough, showing everyone once and for all that he's only in the sport for the money.

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 03:46
by tonyevs
Haye would run worse than he did for Valuev.
Shocking if the fight is made. Everybody has woken up to Haye at heavyweight.

It would be a blatant grab for money from both guys.


The governing bodies should set an example in quality control. They would only have to look at Hayes last few heavyweight fights to see how it would go.
Whoever seriously thinks this would be a good match-up needs to forget they know anything about boxing and look for another sport.

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 05:47
by TempleSlave
ScottDetonator wrote:Vitali makes Haye look even dafter if it happens. The bookies will have him 1-10 on to win. The fight will only serve to make Haye another couple of million with him pulling out as soon as the going gets tough, showing everyone once and for all that he's only in the sport for the money.
:TU: :witzend:

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 07:36
by SteveO
Well Vitali just defeated the WBC's #1 contender and is now entitled to a voluntary defence of his title.
Given the fact that it's all about the money, I guess Vitali v Haye would generate more cash than Vitali versus anyone else.

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 07:47
by clintonmcphilbin
SteveO wrote:Well Vitali just defeated the WBC's #1 contender and is now entitled to a voluntary defence of his title.
Given the fact that it's all about the money, I guess Vitali v Haye would generate more cash than Vitali versus anyone else.
X2

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 10:07
by Gazmac81
i dont think its as straightforward as people are saying with regards to Vitali Destroying Haye

i would love to see haye redeem himself and beat Vitali and then go for Vlad again

Maybe the smokes screens and mirrors of haye are getting me again :oops:

Either way Haye is still a tremendous fighter and always has been from World Class amateur

he packs a great punch but maybe the Klits are just far too big for him to get near

he should maybe join with roach for this one but then Roach will get all the credit :wink:

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 11:17
by big lennox
Would like to see it. I want to love to see Haye land some big shots and then be patient. He would do better than Adamek, who did not have the punch to trouble Vitali in the slightest.

Haye against Wlad was not that bad. He hurt him a couple of times, maybe this time he will be able to judge the distance better to get nearer the klitschko's. I suspect he is good enough to improve upon his last performance.


Got to be more interesting than Klitscko vs Mormec

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 11:31
by keithmoonhangover
10 people say Haye. I'll happily take your money off you.

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 11:35
by leforge
keithmoonhangover wrote:10 people say Haye. I'll happily take your money off you.
x 2

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 13:41
by Finn
I put vitali but if the fight comes off i'll put my money on haye im certain he can make the fight competative and exciting if he really wants to.

A - the odds will be great
B- i never bet against they guy i support and this fight would be big not to put any money down.

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 17:28
by exittored
Interesting take from Buncey which i agree with.
Bunce-'David could beat him (Vitali), I'm now very confident the fight will happen'

"Klitschko looked slower than ever, more cautious than ever, and there was a disturbing moment when, under no pressure, he fell over like he'd been hit by a bullet from a sniper's gun. That's called your body giving up in any language.

His neck, shoulders and back seemed to be hurting him, and that's understandable - he is 40 now - but it made him appear seriously slow.

I saw things in Vitali that made me think David could beat him, and I'm now very confident the fight will happen. The fantastic veteran looked lumbering - he was dragging his right leg along at a funny angle, and couldn't turn it to produce any power. All the power he had was coming from his arms - and yeah, that's plenty, but he never once pivoted and turned on his right foot, which suggests a knee or ankle problem.

There are several ways Haye can beat Vitali (and trust me, it's not easy to beat Vitali): cut him, run and outpoint him - or hope that his body gives in, he falls over and twists his ankle.

And don't worry about whether Haye can handle Vitali's power - there's a whole list of people who Wladimir has knocked cold, and Haye took his best punches.

He may be shocked how tall he is, how powerful, but he'll never be shocked by how slow he is. It really is the speed heavyweight fight.

A promoter like Don King will have seen the signs and, if they had Haye, they would be putting the fight to bed, trust me.

If I was Haye, I'd jump all over it. Now."

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 17:34
by leforge
exittored wrote:Interesting take from Buncey which i agree with.
Bunce-'David could beat him (Vitali), I'm now very confident the fight will happen'

"Klitschko looked slower than ever, more cautious than ever, and there was a disturbing moment when, under no pressure, he fell over like he'd been hit by a bullet from a sniper's gun. That's called your body giving up in any language.

His neck, shoulders and back seemed to be hurting him, and that's understandable - he is 40 now - but it made him appear seriously slow.

I saw things in Vitali that made me think David could beat him, and I'm now very confident the fight will happen. The fantastic veteran looked lumbering - he was dragging his right leg along at a funny angle, and couldn't turn it to produce any power. All the power he had was coming from his arms - and yeah, that's plenty, but he never once pivoted and turned on his right foot, which suggests a knee or ankle problem.

There are several ways Haye can beat Vitali (and trust me, it's not easy to beat Vitali): cut him, run and outpoint him - or hope that his body gives in, he falls over and twists his ankle.

And don't worry about whether Haye can handle Vitali's power - there's a whole list of people who Wladimir has knocked cold, and Haye took his best punches.

He may be shocked how tall he is, how powerful, but he'll never be shocked by how slow he is. It really is the speed heavyweight fight.

A promoter like Don King will have seen the signs and, if they had Haye, they would be putting the fight to bed, trust me.

If I was Haye, I'd jump all over it. Now."
Haye will get destroyed.

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 17:36
by greenyox3
I'd watch the fight. Heck, I might even pay for it (if the lads buy the beer & pizza, of course). But I'm really not sure if I can stomach all of the pre-fight bullsh*t again.

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 17:38
by exittored
leforge wrote:
exittored wrote:Interesting take from Buncey which i agree with.
Bunce-'David could beat him (Vitali), I'm now very confident the fight will happen'

"Klitschko looked slower than ever, more cautious than ever, and there was a disturbing moment when, under no pressure, he fell over like he'd been hit by a bullet from a sniper's gun. That's called your body giving up in any language.

His neck, shoulders and back seemed to be hurting him, and that's understandable - he is 40 now - but it made him appear seriously slow.

I saw things in Vitali that made me think David could beat him, and I'm now very confident the fight will happen. The fantastic veteran looked lumbering - he was dragging his right leg along at a funny angle, and couldn't turn it to produce any power. All the power he had was coming from his arms - and yeah, that's plenty, but he never once pivoted and turned on his right foot, which suggests a knee or ankle problem.

There are several ways Haye can beat Vitali (and trust me, it's not easy to beat Vitali): cut him, run and outpoint him - or hope that his body gives in, he falls over and twists his ankle.

And don't worry about whether Haye can handle Vitali's power - there's a whole list of people who Wladimir has knocked cold, and Haye took his best punches.

He may be shocked how tall he is, how powerful, but he'll never be shocked by how slow he is. It really is the speed heavyweight fight.

A promoter like Don King will have seen the signs and, if they had Haye, they would be putting the fight to bed, trust me.

If I was Haye, I'd jump all over it. Now."
Haye will get destroyed.
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Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 18:47
by loaded_gloves
ScottDetonator wrote:Vitali makes Haye look even dafter if it happens. The bookies will have him 1-10 on to win. The fight will only serve to make Haye another couple of million with him pulling out as soon as the going gets tough, showing everyone once and for all that he's only in the sport for the money.
Exactamundo.

Nail. Hit. On head.

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 23:37
by crusader
big lennox wrote:Would like to see it. I want to love to see Haye land some big shots and then be patient. He would do better than Adamek, who did not have the punch to trouble Vitali in the slightest.

Haye against Wlad was not that bad. He hurt him a couple of times, maybe this time he will be able to judge the distance better to get nearer the klitschko's. I suspect he is good enough to improve upon his last performance.


Got to be more interesting than Klitscko vs Mormec
I assume you think Wlad was hurt in the 12th, but when were the other moments? When answering, keep in mind that landing a good punch that gets a certain commentator excited doesn't equate to hurting an opponent. I cannot recall multiple occasions where Wlad staggered, desperately held, or evinced any sign of significant discomfort

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 08:28
by big lennox
crusader wrote:
big lennox wrote:Would like to see it. I want to love to see Haye land some big shots and then be patient. He would do better than Adamek, who did not have the punch to trouble Vitali in the slightest.

Haye against Wlad was not that bad. He hurt him a couple of times, maybe this time he will be able to judge the distance better to get nearer the klitschko's. I suspect he is good enough to improve upon his last performance.


Got to be more interesting than Klitscko vs Mormec
I assume you think Wlad was hurt in the 12th, but when were the other moments? When answering, keep in mind that landing a good punch that gets a certain commentator excited doesn't equate to hurting an opponent. I cannot recall multiple occasions where Wlad staggered, desperately held, or evinced any sign of significant discomfort
The 3rd and the 12th had him looking a bit uncomfortable, and I got the impression that if Haye had managed to land a follow up that would have had him going.Pure speculation on my part though, I agree.Just a hunch really.

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 08:50
by exittored
In an interview with German newspaper “Die Welt” former WBA heavyweight champion David Haye dared WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko to fight him.


“I’ll knock him out, I’ll smash his chin if he holds it out like he did again Adamek,” said Haye.
I totally agree with Haye, Vitali is due a broken jaw the way that jaw dangles.

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 11:58
by john welsh
Vitali,

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 12:12
by Counter-puncher
exittored wrote:Interesting take from Buncey which i agree with.
Bunce-'David could beat him (Vitali), I'm now very confident the fight will happen'

"Klitschko looked slower than ever, more cautious than ever, and there was a disturbing moment when, under no pressure, he fell over like he'd been hit by a bullet from a sniper's gun. That's called your body giving up in any language.

His neck, shoulders and back seemed to be hurting him, and that's understandable - he is 40 now - but it made him appear seriously slow.

I saw things in Vitali that made me think David could beat him, and I'm now very confident the fight will happen. The fantastic veteran looked lumbering - he was dragging his right leg along at a funny angle, and couldn't turn it to produce any power. All the power he had was coming from his arms - and yeah, that's plenty, but he never once pivoted and turned on his right foot, which suggests a knee or ankle problem.

There are several ways Haye can beat Vitali (and trust me, it's not easy to beat Vitali): cut him, run and outpoint him - or hope that his body gives in, he falls over and twists his ankle.

And don't worry about whether Haye can handle Vitali's power - there's a whole list of people who Wladimir has knocked cold, and Haye took his best punches.

He may be shocked how tall he is, how powerful, but he'll never be shocked by how slow he is. It really is the speed heavyweight fight.

A promoter like Don King will have seen the signs and, if they had Haye, they would be putting the fight to bed, trust me.

If I was Haye, I'd jump all over it. Now."
:lol:

Re: VITALI Vs haye.

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 15:36
by Finn
To be honest depending on where this fight is i might even go! Unlike you glory supporters :lol:

But for the record i though vitali looked great - also his punches are harder to predict and time than wlads because he throws a wider variety of shots at strange times, from akward angles.