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Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 16:02
by Seamus
NEW GAME

You name a fighter and the next poster has to name the biggest puncher and fastest opponent he ever faced. Feel free to break it down by divisions if the guy spent time at multiple weights.

First up

JOE LOUIS

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 16:15
by Seamus
Whitaker

Hardest. Tito
Fastest. Oscar

NEXT
Roberto Duran at Lightweight

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 16:18
by NazNaci1
Hardest : Esteban Dejesus
Fastest: Edwin Viruet

Next up: Azumah Nelson (Super Featherweight)

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 16:36
by Seamus
I'll let some one else answer the next one, but I'd like to elaborate on Bengulnaci's picks. Esteban DeJesus was an excellent fighter, but I wouldn't rate him as a particularly big puncher. Pretty good one, but he's not even close to any alltime lists. As for Viruet, he had an excellent chin as maybe his best attribute. The point I'm trying to make is that among Duran's opponents at LW, there are some good fighters, but no really big punchers or speed demons. Makes me wonder, with Duran's habit of sometimes ignoring his defense at LW, what would have happened if he had faced a really big puncher.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 17:38
by NazNaci1
Fair point Seamus. I was kind of struggling to a degree with Duran's opponents at LW. De Jesus probably was the biggest puncher, I mean you had Lampkin but still, I'd rate De Jesus above him and for speed, De Jesus wasn't that bad either.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 02:58
by witherspoon
Azumah's hardest punching opponent I will say Salvador Sanchez.
Quickest Pernell Whitaker.

I nominate Bernard Hopkins.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 05:19
by Goodnight, Irene
Pavlik, another Hopkins rival, I would definitely call a heavier puncher than Taylor or Trinidad - maybe Jones too.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 06:52
by SaadOffTheDeck
BarryWashington wrote:
witherspoon wrote:Azumah's hardest punching opponent I will say Salvador Sanchez.
Quickest Pernell Whitaker.

I nominate Bernard Hopkins.
Hardest Puncher (at MW) : Roy Jones Jr. (followed by Jermain Taylor & Felix Trinidad)
Fastest Puncher (at MW) : Roy Jones Jr.

Hardest Puncher (at LHW) : Jean Pascal
Fastest Puncher (at LHW) : Jean Pascal (will soon change to Chad Dawson once Hopkins & "Bad" Chad square off).

NEXT :

Michael Spinks (at LHW only)

Marvin Johnson

Ugh, Johnny Davis I guess.

Benny Leonard

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 06:53
by SaadOffTheDeck
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Pavlik, another Hopkins rival, I would definitely call a heavier puncher than Taylor or Trinidad - maybe Jones too.
Antwon Echols might be my vote for Hopkins. He definitely punched harder than Taylor.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 10:07
by Jaywheel
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Pavlik, another Hopkins rival, I would definitely call a heavier puncher than Taylor or Trinidad - maybe Jones too.
Antwon Echols might be my vote for Hopkins. He definitely punched harder than Taylor.
And I think I'd say Tarver instead of Pascal at LHW.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 10:40
by Goodnight, Irene
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Pavlik, another Hopkins rival, I would definitely call a heavier puncher than Taylor or Trinidad - maybe Jones too.
Antwon Echols might be my vote for Hopkins. He definitely punched harder than Taylor.
Forgot about Echols, who could really bang.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 10:59
by Jaywheel
Carried well his power up to 168 lbs.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 11:03
by Seamus
For Michael Spinks I'd Have

Hardest. Qawi
Fastest. Sutherland. He didn't have the power or chin to beat the big boys, but he through some nice fast combos that made him look good at times against the best.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 11:44
by SaadOffTheDeck
Seamus wrote:For Michael Spinks I'd Have

Hardest. Qawi
Fastest. Sutherland. He didn't have the power or chin to beat the big boys, but he through some nice fast combos that made him look good at times against the best.
Qawi over Marvin? I don't think so.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 00:05
by King Carlos
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
BarryWashington wrote:
witherspoon wrote:Azumah's hardest punching opponent I will say Salvador Sanchez.
Quickest Pernell Whitaker.

I nominate Bernard Hopkins.
Hardest Puncher (at MW) : Roy Jones Jr. (followed by Jermain Taylor & Felix Trinidad)
Fastest Puncher (at MW) : Roy Jones Jr.

Hardest Puncher (at LHW) : Jean Pascal
Fastest Puncher (at LHW) : Jean Pascal (will soon change to Chad Dawson once Hopkins & "Bad" Chad square off).

NEXT :

Michael Spinks (at LHW only)

Marvin Johnson

Ugh, Johnny Davis I guess.

Benny Leonard
Hardest: Jimmy McLarnin (although at Lightweight it would've been Charley White)
Fastest: Johnny Dundee

Archie Moore

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 07:17
by Trent
Archie moore

Hardest - Marciano

Fastest - Ali


Jeff Fenech

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 07:19
by SaadOffTheDeck
A young Charles was probably faster than Ali.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 07:24
by SaadOffTheDeck
For fenech

Nelson

Richardson

Here is one to think on- Bert Cooper

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 08:41
by Goodnight, Irene
Doing this without looking, but maybe Foreman on power, Holyfield for speed?

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 09:20
by Jaywheel
Really? I'd say Tyson and Tyson. Especially at the time they fought compared to when he fought Mercer or Holmes.

Fernando Vargas

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 11:17
by Goodnight, Irene
Jaywheel wrote:Really? I'd say Tyson and Tyson. Especially at the time they fought compared to when he fought Mercer or Holmes.

Fernando Vargas
Trinidad was the best puncher, & I would call De La Hoya a shade quicker than the Mosley Vargas went up against.

Eusebio Pedroza.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 11:33
by Counter-puncher
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
Jaywheel wrote:Really? I'd say Tyson and Tyson. Especially at the time they fought compared to when he fought Mercer or Holmes.

Fernando Vargas
Trinidad was the best puncher, & I would call De La Hoya a shade quicker than the Mosley Vargas went up against.

Eusebio Pedroza.
Puncher, Laporte or Patrick Ford

fastest, Bernard Taylor?

next, Julio Cesar Chavez

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 11:34
by Ezzard
Rosario and Taylor/Camacho

LLoyd Honeyghan

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 11:41
by Goodnight, Irene
Ezzard wrote:Rosario and Taylor/Camacho

LLoyd Honeyghan
Cmon. Dont cop out on us Ezz - Taylor or Camacho? Pick one.

Re: Hardest Puncher And Fastest Opponent

Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 11:52
by Ezzard
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
Ezzard wrote:Rosario and Taylor/Camacho

LLoyd Honeyghan
Cmon. Dont cop out on us Ezz - Taylor or Camacho? Pick one.
Camacho?