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.........if the film 'Real Money' starring Jimmy Tibbs is available anywhere on DVD?

I've had a recce on amazon and they don't appear to have it, I know it's a bit of a long shot but it may be out there somewhere.

Did anyone else like it? I don't watch films as a rule so can't really compare it to much, but I decided to watch it on telly a few years back because of the cast and thought it was alright.

Anybody?

That was an amazing film. Jimmy and Mark Tibbs, Jimmy Flint, Steve Roberts, Mark Kaylor, and several other well known fighters, all acting convincingly (though Flint was the only one with any actor training).
Really believable. The first film went down so well they made a sequel.

Jimmy Flint?!! He was one of my favorite boxers in the 80's.
Have you tried ebay.co.uk Jimmy?
If no luck there, let me know and I should be able to get hold of it for you.

I've been trying to find that film for ages, it was really excellent, but it doesn't seem to be listed on IMDB. I couldn't remember it's name before though, so I'm going to look again, I was just searching for Jimmy tibbs before.

Who was it who played the ultra-menacing villain in it?

Well it aint on IMBD which is odd as they usualy list tv movies too. Is that defintely the right title?
Anyone know what channel it was shown on, BBC?

I can remember it had adverts so it can't have been BBC, it was before channel 5 and wasn't on Sky.

50/50 - ITV or C4

someone down the Peacock must have a copy. I will ask tonight!!
Flint was in last night actually!! still in fantastic shape!!


check the link below. looks like you may be able to buy it here.

http://www.moviem.co.uk/scripts/film.pl ... nchor=2530

what was the film that had jason rowlands as the main character???

Flint's about 50 now isn't he knockout? Does anyone ever see Mark Kaylor knocking about?

FlawedGenius wrote:Flint's about 50 now isn't he knockout? Does anyone ever see Mark Kaylor knocking about?

i am ashamed to say i wouldnt recognise Kaylor. Dont know what he looks like really. Only saw one of his fights (gumbs)

Knockout,
Try and get your hands on Kaylor - Christie from Bonfire Night 1985, it's a barn-burner that's well worth watching. I've found this piece by secondsout.com's Clive Bernath:

Mark Kaylor v Errol Christie, November 5, 1985

By Clive Bernath

Under normal circumstances, Mark Kaylor’s eighth-round stoppage win over amateur star Errol Christie would have passed off as a thrilling final eliminator for the British title. But what made the fight all the more intriguing was the fact that, two weeks previously, the two had come to blows at the pre-fight press conference.


Publicity stunt it was not. The way the two tore into each other indicated genuine malice. Nowadays, you would be lucky to attract a handful of reporters to a world title press conference - let alone a British title eliminator, but in 1985 everything was different.


Boxing was a major sport in England then and the fight was going out live on BBC TV. The press conference was heaving with scribes and their snappers and, as you can imagine, every national paper carried the story of their bareknuckle brawl. Some on the front pages.


The publicity fuelled already intense public interest-and, for the fighters themselves, that little scrap made it personal.


West Ham’s Kaylor was trained by Terry Lawless and a good solid pro who had been brought along carefully in typical Lawless fashion. At the time, he was a former British and Commonwealth champion fast approaching his prime. His only losses were to top middleweight Tony Sibson, Buster Drayton, who went on to become IBF world light-middleweight champion, and a disqualification against Tony Cerda.


Christie, 22, had an impeccable amateur pedigree. He had won 11 national school titles and was a European junior gold medalist. He had tremendous natural ability and was expected to go all the way to a world title.


In three years as a professional, he notched up 20 wins from 21 starts, 19 by way of stoppage or knockout. His only loss was a first round stoppage by mediocre Belgian light-heavyweight champ Jose Seys, suggesting the one flaw in his previously untarnished natural ability - his chin.


The fight was appropriately set for bonfire night, November 5,1985 at Wembley and, to coin a much-used cliché, produced the expected fireworks. In an amazing first round, Christie was floored in the opening seconds with a right hand. He hauled himself up far too early and, as his legs started to betray him, it looked like the fight could be over in the very first minute.


As the referee waved them on, Kaylor roared in with another right to cut the Midlander over the left eye. Again, it looked all over, but Christie had his pride at stake and stood firm. Moments later, Christie connected with a short right to drop Kaylor to his knees. The Londoner took the eight count as his astonished corner looked on, but withstood Christie’s wild follow-up see out the round.


Sensing victory was close, Christie went to finish it in the second and shook Kaylor again with a right hand. Kaylor went down for the second time in the third from yet another right, and was again given the mandatory eight count. But he came back so ferociously towards the end of the session that Christie was hanging on desperately and cut again on the left eyelid.


From then on, there was only going to be one winner. Kaylor had taken everything Christie had to offer and he kept marching forward, forcing Christie onto the back foot. Christie tried to claw back the momentum in the sixth and, very nearly succeeded, but it was all to late. Kaylor took charged in the seventh, concentrating his attacks to the body and then landing a big right that had Christie hanging on.


Kaylor menacingly moved forward in the eighth, unleashing a perfect left and right to floor Christie for the second time in the fight. Incredibly, Christie managed to clamber to the ropes, but it was not to be.


The Londoner had again proven his durability in the heat of battle. While he went on to unsuccessfully challenge for the European title, Christie never fulfilled his immense potential. Unsurprisingly, he was never the same again.

wow, that sounds like some fight!!!!!!!!!
why the BBC dont reshow them is beyond me... or maybe channel 5 can buy the rights!!!

Yeah a classic fight, I only watched it again recently and it's as good as I remembered.
Fireworks were going off in the Albert Hall as Kaylor floored Christie in the opening seconds.

Kaylor/Gumbs was almost as good - Mark gets off the floor to almost knockout Gumbs with his very next punch.

Jimmy Flint was a vicious little banger from the 70's and 80's, and really does deserve to be in these East End gangster films. He's playing himself, basically. I saw him in 'The Krays' movie, with those two Spandau Ballet puffs, and have seen him in several other movies. He was nicknamed "The Wapping Assassin" as a fighter. He was avoided by virtually every leading domestic featherweight of his day, but had the misfortune to run into Pat Cowdell in 1980 in a British featherweight title challenge and was outclassed by the canny Cowdell. The only other men to beat him were Wolverhampton legend Bingo Crooks (a Peter Buckley of his day) and Steve "Sammy" Sims, a future British featherweight champion. Flint retired after the Sims fight, and you feared for his future, but he's done well. (Incidentally, Mickey Duff called Sims the hardest man he'd ever seen after the Flint win, in which Sims rode out the early attacks of Flint to starch him in the fourth).
On this same note, did anyone see Mickey Hughes in "Snatch". Boy, did he look hard.

Yes Mickey Hughes was in that film p/o Brad Pitts Gypsies I think

also appearing were

Adam Fogerty, Scott Welch, Micky Cantwell...and I think a fleeting glimpse of Andy Till

...I think Real Money was a C4 special, pretty good viewing, especially the female co-stars if I am thinking of the same film

DOG wrote:Yes Mickey Hughes was in that film p/o Brad Pitts Gypsies I think

also appearing were

Adam Fogerty, Scott Welch, Micky Cantwell...and I think a fleeting glimpse of Andy Till

...I think Real Money was a C4 special, pretty good viewing, especially the female co-stars if I am thinking of the same film

I didn't spot Andy Till. Guy Ritchie certainly likes getting the tough guys in. Does anyone remember a film with Billy Connolly and Liam Neeson in it, about a bareknuckle fighter (played by Neeson)? Neeson's opponent was played by Rab Affleck, a former British light-heavyweight title challenger. He was superb in it.