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Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:38
by sgtcecil
Read this on ESB.

Raging if true!

Mr Nelson????

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:41
by Craig14
it's in scotland november 12th ain't it?

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:44
by sgtcecil
yid14 wrote:it's in scotland november 12th ain't it?
I thought so/hope so!

By Billy Nelson on Eastside

"fornicate me 3 Scots coming to London to win Titles how on earth will Gary or is it Len Barlow or Shit shute Palmer survive? ha ha"

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:46
by sgtcecil
Appleby being a definate, Simpson vs Selby been quoted and been posted over there that Burns vs Kats will be in London too!

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:46
by leforge
Surely burns should be fighting in front of his own fans. MInd you Nathan cleverly never defended any titles he won in Wales yet!

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:47
by Grays_Dan
sgtcecil wrote:Read this on ESB.

Raging if true!

Mr Nelson????
Raging - I'll cry, paid for some flights to Glasgow last week :witzend:

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:49
by ThereByTheGrace
Maybe they will throw Mitchell on the undercard also with the winner fighting him.

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:50
by sgtcecil
Grays_Dan wrote:
sgtcecil wrote:Read this on ESB.

Raging if true!

Mr Nelson????
Raging - I'll cry, paid for some flights to Glasgow last week :witzend:
Harsh!

Regardless of what happens, I'll be watching it in Glasgow!

If it is the case, you have to feel for Ricky - seems like he is being sold down the Garden Path!

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:52
by Grays_Dan
Mitchell has already said he was going to be on the undercard and he said the likely place was Glasgow.

Worrying thing is that nothing has been confirmed as yet though by anyone and the Kelvin Hall has only been "provisionally booked"

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 16:53
by Craig14
sgtcecil wrote:
Grays_Dan wrote:
sgtcecil wrote:Read this on ESB.

Raging if true!

Mr Nelson????
Raging - I'll cry, paid for some flights to Glasgow last week :witzend:
Harsh!

Regardless of what happens, I'll be watching it in Glasgow!

If it is the case, you have to feel for Ricky - seems like he is being sold down the Garden Path!
I think he's being sold down the path fighting Katsidis. He'll get hammered. Katsidis was 140 for his last fight and is a big puncher. Burns was 130 and is certainly not a puncher. Not only that it's for the interim ain't it? Strange fight.

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 17:01
by sgtcecil
Its even more strange that its possibly going to be in London.

I think burns does have a chance but is definately the underdog.

Its a shame that Burns is not getting the fight he probably wanted (Broner stateside on HBO) and I sincerely hope he is getting paid more than Golden Boy were offering!

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 17:03
by Grays_Dan
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=29219&more=1

Says Glasgow - November 12th, and thats his manager

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 17:06
by sgtcecil
Grays_Dan wrote:http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=29219&more=1

Says Glasgow - November 12th, and thats his manager

I really hope it is still in Glasgow Dan but that was posted on the 13th so there may have been some changes to the plans!

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 17:24
by Grays_Dan
Never saw the date :(

Everything crossed. It makes sense to be in Glasgow, with Mitchell fighting some bum from Ghana on the undercard for a "Intercontinental defence"

Everything crossed

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 21:48
by GAV
Would be disappointed from the point of view of a Scottish fan, but if it gets a bigger crowd, more exposure and makes Ricky more money then its great.

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 05:40
by billy nelson
yid14 wrote:
sgtcecil wrote:
Grays_Dan wrote: Raging - I'll cry, paid for some flights to Glasgow last week :witzend:
Harsh!

Regardless of what happens, I'll be watching it in Glasgow!

If it is the case, you have to feel for Ricky - seems like he is being sold down the Garden Path!
I think he's being sold down the path fighting Katsidis. He'll get hammered. Katsidis was 140 for his last fight and is a big puncher. Burns was 130 and is certainly not a puncher. Not only that it's for the interim ain't it? Strange fight.
Ricky wont get hammered mate you aint got a clue,Ricky will win this fight and go on to become the LW champion beleive me.

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 05:44
by sgtcecil
billy nelson wrote:
yid14 wrote:
sgtcecil wrote: Harsh!

Regardless of what happens, I'll be watching it in Glasgow!

If it is the case, you have to feel for Ricky - seems like he is being sold down the Garden Path!
I think he's being sold down the path fighting Katsidis. He'll get hammered. Katsidis was 140 for his last fight and is a big puncher. Burns was 130 and is certainly not a puncher. Not only that it's for the interim ain't it? Strange fight.
Ricky wont get hammered mate you aint got a clue,Ricky will win this fight and go on to become the LW champion beleive me.
I hope so Billy! Is the fight going to be in London or Glasgow then?

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 06:10
by Craig14
billy nelson wrote:
yid14 wrote:
sgtcecil wrote: Harsh!

Regardless of what happens, I'll be watching it in Glasgow!

If it is the case, you have to feel for Ricky - seems like he is being sold down the Garden Path!
I think he's being sold down the path fighting Katsidis. He'll get hammered. Katsidis was 140 for his last fight and is a big puncher. Burns was 130 and is certainly not a puncher. Not only that it's for the interim ain't it? Strange fight.
Ricky wont get hammered mate you aint got a clue,Ricky will win this fight and go on to become the LW champion beleive me.
He'll certainly start a big underdog. We'll see. Feel for him abit, after a fantastic victory to win the WBO super featherweight title he's sort of stalled abit with 3 sub-par standard opponents in defending his title and now he's being thrown in with Katsidis, who is a big puncher and massive pressure fighter who was moving upto light welter. Goodluck to him but like I said bit of a strange match.

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 06:25
by bigjack
billy nelson wrote:
yid14 wrote:
sgtcecil wrote: Harsh!

Regardless of what happens, I'll be watching it in Glasgow!

If it is the case, you have to feel for Ricky - seems like he is being sold down the Garden Path!
I think he's being sold down the path fighting Katsidis. He'll get hammered. Katsidis was 140 for his last fight and is a big puncher. Burns was 130 and is certainly not a puncher. Not only that it's for the interim ain't it? Strange fight.
Ricky wont get hammered mate you aint got a clue,Ricky will win this fight and go on to become the LW champion beleive me.
That's what i think,katsidis has had his day

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 06:35
by stujones
I don't feel Katsidis warrants the chance to fight for the world title given his last performance. I can see why he is being talked of as a slight favourite, but I cannot see how a fighter who failed to win a round against Geurrero and got brutally stopped by Marquez is worthy of a shot at a vacant title.

The world title is supposed to mean just that, best in the world.... and fighting for a vacant title should mean you are among the very best in the world - that shouldn't involve losing a near shut out (but for point deductions) and getting brutally stopped in recent outings.

Might sound crazy, but I think Kevin Mitchell, given his win over Murray, is more deserving of a vacant title fight. Yes, Katisidis is worthy as an title defense, but not for me for a vacant title fight unless he could hold a win against a top European (at least) level opperator going into this fight.

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 07:51
by Craig14
I am confused to whether it is for a world title or an interim?

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 07:56
by LeedsLad
To be fair Katsidis has only lost in good company, no lightweight in the world would beat Juan Manuel Marquez - not Burns, not Mitchell, not Murray.... in fact he'd probably take all three on the same night with relative ease. He's that good.

At the end of the day, the belts are a f**king joke, Ricky vs Katsidis is a really good fight and one that I'd like to see - let's just be thankful we've got good fighters facing eachother rather than giving the alphabets any of our attention.

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 08:01
by stujones
LeedsLad wrote:To be fair Katsidis has only lost in good company, no lightweight in the world would beat Juan Manuel Marquez - not Burns, not Mitchell, not Murray.... in fact he'd probably take all three on the same night with relative ease. He's that good.

At the end of the day, the belts are a f**king joke, Ricky vs Katsidis is a really good fight and one that I'd like to see - let's just be thankful we've got good fighters facing eachother rather than giving the alphabets any of our attention.
Fair point well said, I just cannot help but think though if the title hadn't been on the line, would Burns have had less incentive to move up and go for that Ring belt that he so craved at Super Feather. I would still rather Ricky have a go at that.

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 08:11
by LeedsLad
stujones wrote:
LeedsLad wrote:To be fair Katsidis has only lost in good company, no lightweight in the world would beat Juan Manuel Marquez - not Burns, not Mitchell, not Murray.... in fact he'd probably take all three on the same night with relative ease. He's that good.

At the end of the day, the belts are a f**king joke, Ricky vs Katsidis is a really good fight and one that I'd like to see - let's just be thankful we've got good fighters facing eachother rather than giving the alphabets any of our attention.
Fair point well said, I just cannot help but think though if the title hadn't been on the line, would Burns have had less incentive to move up and go for that Ring belt that he so craved at Super Feather. I would still rather Ricky have a go at that.
Seems strange that Allegedly is moving one of his ''champions'' from the weakest division in boxing up to a pretty strong one - then again we seldom see his fighters face the absolute cream of the crop in their respective divisions.

I was shocked when this fight was made, I'll be honest. I hoped for him to face Broner in the States, a fight I think he'd win comfortably and gain lots of coverage from. Maybe they were worried about him having his head turned whilst over there?

Re: Burns vs Katsidis in London????

Posted: 20 Sep 2011, 08:22
by Craig14
I think Katsidis warrants more of shot at a world title than Nicky Cook did. Saying that I'm not really sure Burns deserves one having never fought at lightweight. I've been reading articles on it though and it seems it's for the interim title, which really does make it a strange match-up.