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An assortment of Jock dingbats over on the other forum are saliviating at the prospect of John Simpson taking the titles off Lee Selby when they fight in November. A lot of them focus on the telegraphed punches Selby threw.

I don't know about anybody else on here but the reason Selby telegraphed those big punches is because the aggressive, come forward style is alien to him but he still won the fight. Selby and his team knew they had to KO Smith to win in Liverpool. When Smith raised his arms after every round after the 5th - he wasn't proclaiming victory but rather saying to the judges 'remember where you are'. Selby had to knock him out to win and he did just that.

Even though in my opinion, Simpson beat Smith twice - both of those fights were very close and I think it is a given that Selby will go back to fighting his own natural style. If Selby beat Smith convincingly with a style that isn't naturally his - how is Simpson going to beat him if Selby goes back to his natural style? Simpson barely beat Smith remember - I don't see where a Simpson victory is a given thats for sure.

Newsflash for the Welsh mafia- something was seriously wrong with Smith on Saturday, he looked awful and I wouldnt be surprised if it comes out he was severely weight drained. I keep hearing about this brilliant masterplan of throwing insane roundhouses. That worked because Smith was having a bizzare off night. If he's tries that against Simpson he's going to be in a whole world of hurt.

If Selby's alter ego is a Pernell Whittaker style master boxer, how come he didnt think it would be enough to outdo Smith?

I take Simpson to punch the daft moustache right off his coupon.

The serious problem Smith had was .... Selby!

But your right - there will be the weight making/sore toe type excuses soon enough though..

Trojans44 wrote:I take Simpson to punch the daft moustache right off his coupon.

Can't argue with that! The type of banter you can't buy in the shops as well

Fat Git wrote:An assortment of Jock dingbats over on the other forum are saliviating at the prospect of John Simpson taking the titles off Lee Selby when they fight in November. A lot of them focus on the telegraphed punches Selby threw.

I don't know about anybody else on here but the reason Selby telegraphed those big punches is because the aggressive, come forward style is alien to him but he still won the fight. Selby and his team knew they had to KO Smith to win in Liverpool. When Smith raised his arms after every round after the 5th - he wasn't proclaiming victory but rather saying to the judges 'remember where you are'. Selby had to knock him out to win and he did just that.

Even though in my opinion, Simpson beat Smith twice - both of those fights were very close and I think it is a given that Selby will go back to fighting his own natural style. If Selby beat Smith convincingly with a style that isn't naturally his - how is Simpson going to beat him if Selby goes back to his natural style? Simpson barely beat Smith remember - I don't see where a Simpson victory is a given thats for sure.

He will beat him coz hes better than Smith and Selby imo and yours coz you had Simpson winning both fights against Stephen! Stephen also raised his arms nearly every round against John to try to influence the judges it shouldnt happen but there we go.
Simpson to make Selbys reign a very short one and get his belts back that should never have been taken away.

Fat Git wrote:An assortment of Jock dingbats over on the other forum are saliviating at the prospect of John Simpson taking the titles off Lee Selby when they fight in November. A lot of them focus on the telegraphed punches Selby threw.

I don't know about anybody else on here but the reason Selby telegraphed those big punches is because the aggressive, come forward style is alien to him but he still won the fight. Selby and his team knew they had to KO Smith to win in Liverpool. When Smith raised his arms after every round after the 5th - he wasn't proclaiming victory but rather saying to the judges 'remember where you are'. Selby had to knock him out to win and he did just that.

Even though in my opinion, Simpson beat Smith twice - both of those fights were very close and I think it is a given that Selby will go back to fighting his own natural style. If Selby beat Smith convincingly with a style that isn't naturally his - how is Simpson going to beat him if Selby goes back to his natural style? Simpson barely beat Smith remember - I don't see where a Simpson victory is a given thats for sure.

So what is Selbys natural style then?

How many chances does Simpson want although he will punch the Taff idiots cocky little smirk off his stupid ugly head he will just get beat by Swifty in the 3rd and final rematch.. Smith is the boy in that division along as he boxes to his strengths I predict smith to be British,commonwealth and European champion by next summer FACT

Well your obviously going to say everything you've said sooo!!!uote="billy nelson"]

Fat Git wrote:An assortment of Jock dingbats over on the other forum are saliviating at the prospect of John Simpson taking the titles off Lee Selby when they fight in November. A lot of them focus on the telegraphed punches Selby threw.

I don't know about anybody else on here but the reason Selby telegraphed those big punches is because the aggressive, come forward style is alien to him but he still won the fight. Selby and his team knew they had to KO Smith to win in Liverpool. When Smith raised his arms after every round after the 5th - he wasn't proclaiming victory but rather saying to the judges 'remember where you are'. Selby had to knock him out to win and he did just that.

Even though in my opinion, Simpson beat Smith twice - both of those fights were very close and I think it is a given that Selby will go back to fighting his own natural style. If Selby beat Smith convincingly with a style that isn't naturally his - how is Simpson going to beat him if Selby goes back to his natural style? Simpson barely beat Smith remember - I don't see where a Simpson victory is a given thats for sure.

He will beat him coz hes better than Smith and Selby imo and yours coz you had Simpson winning both fights against Stephen! Stephen also raised his arms nearly every round against John to try to influence the judges it shouldnt happen but there we go.
Simpson to make Selbys reign a very short one and get his belts back that should never have been taken away.[/quote]

tonyevs wrote:The serious problem Smith had was .... Selby!

But your right - there will be the weight making/sore toe type excuses soon enough though..

There won't be any excuses like that at all

billy nelson wrote:He will beat him coz hes better than Smith and Selby imo and yours coz you had Simpson winning both fights against Stephen! Stephen also raised his arms nearly every round against John to try to influence the judges it shouldnt happen but there we go.
Simpson to make Selbys reign a very short one and get his belts back that should never have been taken away.

Simpson won both fights but they were also very close, Selby won his fight convincingly and he applied a style which isn't natural to him to win. The injustices you and John Simpson have suffered should not be reflected on Selby who won those titles fair and square and very convincingly.

ShadrachSimmo wrote:

Fat Git wrote:An assortment of Jock dingbats over on the other forum are saliviating at the prospect of John Simpson taking the titles off Lee Selby when they fight in November. A lot of them focus on the telegraphed punches Selby threw.

I don't know about anybody else on here but the reason Selby telegraphed those big punches is because the aggressive, come forward style is alien to him but he still won the fight. Selby and his team knew they had to KO Smith to win in Liverpool. When Smith raised his arms after every round after the 5th - he wasn't proclaiming victory but rather saying to the judges 'remember where you are'. Selby had to knock him out to win and he did just that.

Even though in my opinion, Simpson beat Smith twice - both of those fights were very close and I think it is a given that Selby will go back to fighting his own natural style. If Selby beat Smith convincingly with a style that isn't naturally his - how is Simpson going to beat him if Selby goes back to his natural style? Simpson barely beat Smith remember - I don't see where a Simpson victory is a given thats for sure.

So what is Selbys natural style then?

He is more of a boxer than a puncher is he not? It would be like Herol Graham headhunting against Tony Sibson and KO'ing him. It takes a fighter of a certain talent to win against his strengths which he had to do or else be jobbed out of a desicion.

Adam1991 wrote:How many chances does Simpson want although he will punch the Taff idiots cocky little smirk off his stupid ugly head he will just get beat by Swifty in the 3rd and final rematch.. Smith is the boy in that division along as he boxes to his strengths I predict smith to be British,commonwealth and European champion by next summer FACT

Well actually Adam - that is all opinion and not fact but you are entitled to state your opinion on what might happen with the future of Smith. If it was the weight that stopped him from performing then he will need to move up and win those titles in the super featherweight division. If it wasn't the weight then he has some serious work to do and sometimes it doesn't matter what you do (Arguello vs Pryor) some fighters just have that 'Indian sign' over you. Too bad for Smith if that is the case with Selby!

Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:This has been rescheduled for 14th December...... Simpson pulled out with a Virus apparently.

Cheers Cardiff, is it defo on the 14th which is midweek, I know Warren was planning a big bill for the 17th December, would be a handy addition

after watchin selby v smith ya gotta take good notice at selby even if his tash on the snide side but the lad can fight but i take my old friend to take his title back home

tear up wrote:after watchin selby v smith ya gotta take good notice at selby even if his tash on the snide side but the lad can fight but i take my old friend to take his title back home

I told you all Selby was one to watch!! Oh and his tash is excused this month by Movember!! lol

John i back in the gym after being not well,imo he will beat selby handily.

billy nelson wrote:John i back in the gym after being not well,imo he will beat selby handily.

When will the fight be now?

14th December York Hall

http://www.westcountryboxing.com/selby- ... ember.html

Wonder if that means Chisora v John Mac next week at York Hall?

Selby is going places by the looks of it!

When will people listen

Ah yes, the good old post fight 'hahah you guys were wrong'

So glad for Selb, maybe now he'll get the credit he deserves but I'm sure he won't. A lot of people made out that his KO on Smith was a fluke but he showed again tonight that he's a level above. Simpson is as good a domestic fighter as you can get and Selby beat him when boxing within his limits when Simpson has given pretty much everyone he's fought before hell.

Hopefully Selb can get a European fight by this time next year, I hope Simpson doesn't retire because there's still some very good fights and wins out there for him.

Lee doesn't get warmed up until RD 7

He is the official challenger for Mirskiktchian and Truscott has already beaten him so take the European title first and then do the Smith rematch, more bargaining power for Selby, same result though I think. This kid could be anything I really like him, he has one of those attitudes that just seems to want to better your work all the time.