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Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 23 Sep 2011, 01:06
by N2 Shape
Using a lead in from another thread regarding wether Chauncy will fight again in NZ, I came to think as he says theres no real fights for him down here now how would a Welliver VS De Mori fight go down? Both are forum users so would be awesome to have them both discuss the merits of the fight! Mark hasnt fought for a while and might wanna shake some rust but beating Welliver shoots him straight into the Top 10 mix especially considering Chauncys WBO belt would be on the line..........thoughts?

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 23 Sep 2011, 02:45
by Chauncy
I'd pick Welliver to win this one. :wink:
DeMori has Don King keeping him on the shelf, so I gotta agree with you this might be a good matchup for our part of the world. Mark was top 20 and has a very good resume. What you think Mark?

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 23 Sep 2011, 05:16
by Craig14
N2 Shape wrote:Using a lead in from another thread regarding wether Chauncy will fight again in NZ, I came to think as he says theres no real fights for him down here now how would a Welliver VS De Mori fight go down? Both are forum users so would be awesome to have them both discuss the merits of the fight! Mark hasnt fought for a while and might wanna shake some rust but beating Welliver shoots him straight into the Top 10 mix especially considering Chauncys WBO belt would be on the line..........thoughts?
Who would you like to see promote the fight if it was in New Zealand? :P

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 23 Sep 2011, 08:15
by Hounddawg
yid14 wrote:
N2 Shape wrote:Using a lead in from another thread regarding wether Chauncy will fight again in NZ, I came to think as he says theres no real fights for him down here now how would a Welliver VS De Mori fight go down? Both are forum users so would be awesome to have them both discuss the merits of the fight! Mark hasnt fought for a while and might wanna shake some rust but beating Welliver shoots him straight into the Top 10 mix especially considering Chauncys WBO belt would be on the line..........thoughts?
Who would you like to see promote the fight if it was in New Zealand? :P
I don't think Mark would want the fight in NZ, he's had a bad decision there before. I think Mark needs to fight soon and against someone decent, here's another bloke who's dropped of the face of the earth, i used to talk to him, and he always wanted Meehan or Tua, it's just that his direction and decision in fights couldn't get him to a payday or a fight of that magnitude, very similar i guess to Chanceys proclamation of him being deserving or in line of a shot against Wlad or Vatali.

It's really time for the Heavyweights here to step it up, no one is fighting each other again. Kirby and Leapai are trying to get the fights, but blokes like Solo and De Mori who ooze talent are wasting there best years.

Don King is a dog and always has been, very poor choice in Management and Mark should consider his own show, or even a smarter move would be align with Green machine promotions.

Talent vs Talent De Mori by scores of 117-111.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 23 Sep 2011, 08:59
by dberry
Scotty Belshaw is also keen to get in the ring with anyone, yet can't get fights.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 23 Sep 2011, 18:41
by davidk59
I like Scottie ,that would be a good honest first fight back for De Mori .
Lets just see if the Dominator is what he makes out to be a Dominator or will he just want to fight another stiff and get nothing out of it.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 23 Sep 2011, 19:05
by N2 Shape
Cant get fights? Tillman has agreed to fight him Nov 18th jusat waiting on there end!

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 24 Sep 2011, 03:09
by Hounddawg
Who Tillman or De Mori?

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 24 Sep 2011, 22:43
by N2 Shape
Tillman Vs belshaw

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 04:09
by Brute
dberry wrote:Scotty Belshaw is also keen to get in the ring with anyone, yet can't get fights.
After Lucas Browne cleaned him up in two rounds promoters may be concerned for Belshaw's health.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 06:02
by davidk59
Yeh brute ,but i would still like to see Belshaw fight Demori because Scottie can bang a bit and Demori needs an honest fight because he would be as rusty as ,and If Scottie won people wouldn't be to concerned about his health as well.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 01:49
by dberry
Brute wrote:
dberry wrote:Scotty Belshaw is also keen to get in the ring with anyone, yet can't get fights.
After Lucas Browne cleaned him up in two rounds promoters may be concerned for Belshaw's health.
So what you are saying, if a fighter is stopped by Lucas Browne, promoters will avoid them for fear of any medical conditions that they may have? Scott is fine, he is training hard is of good health, oh and he is totally lucid to talk to, even if his accent is a bit thick, all of his mental faculties seem to be there and he is willing to box on here in the heavyweight division.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 03:16
by convict
De Mori schools Welliver will be the headlines on websites if/when this fight happens.
But so far De Mori is the "Great white hype" :?? = with a lot of press but near nothing boxing wise. He needs a fight asap.
And no disrespect to you Chauncy, De Mori is a Aussie so i gotta back him :box: .

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 03:31
by D J Pawsey
dberry wrote:
Brute wrote:
dberry wrote:Scotty Belshaw is also keen to get in the ring with anyone, yet can't get fights.
After Lucas Browne cleaned him up in two rounds promoters may be concerned for Belshaw's health.
So what you are saying, if a fighter is stopped by Lucas Browne, promoters will avoid them for fear of any medical conditions that they may have? Scott is fine, he is training hard is of good health, oh and he is totally lucid to talk to, even if his accent is a bit thick, all of his mental faculties seem to be there and he is willing to box on here in the heavyweight division.
I hear ya dberry. Fighters get knocked out it's part of the game. It's how they bounce back that counts best of luck scott. If I remember right Scott had Lucas in a bit trouble before the stoppage.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 05:42
by dberry
True, D J, and you're right, he gave Big Daddy a bit of a run before he froze up. I heard tonight that Scotty is fighting on the Mundine undercard, one of the guys that just stopped Thor Hoopman. Good luck to him, he is a great bloke and I think he has a lot to offer the Australian scene.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 17:35
by Brute
dberry wrote:True, D J, and you're right, he gave Big Daddy a bit of a run before he froze up. I heard tonight that Scotty is fighting on the Mundine undercard, one of the guys that just stopped Thor Hoopman. Good luck to him, he is a great bloke and I think he has a lot to offer the Australian scene.
Belshaw fights George Poulivati, who lost to Hoopman, on October 19. When did Hoopman who last fought at cruiserweight and lost become a heavyweight benchmark? As for Browne, Belshaw had twice as many fights under his belt as Browne when they fought. Some against highly rated Brits.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 00:25
by dberry
Never said Hoopman was a benchmark, couldn't remember the name of Scott's next opponent but new it was one of the guys that beat Thor.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 03:36
by Brute
dberry wrote:Never said Hoopman was a benchmark, couldn't remember the name of Scott's next opponent but new it was one of the guys that beat Thor.

i just told you. His next opponent is George Poulivati who lost to Thor.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 04:37
by Craig14
Brute wrote:
dberry wrote:True, D J, and you're right, he gave Big Daddy a bit of a run before he froze up. I heard tonight that Scotty is fighting on the Mundine undercard, one of the guys that just stopped Thor Hoopman. Good luck to him, he is a great bloke and I think he has a lot to offer the Australian scene.
Belshaw fights George Poulivati, who lost to Hoopman, on October 19. When did Hoopman who last fought at cruiserweight and lost become a heavyweight benchmark? As for Browne, Belshaw had twice as many fights under his belt as Browne when they fought. Some against highly rated Brits.
He lasted 5 rounds with the 3 brits, being knocked down 7 times.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 21:35
by Brute
Is that why he came out here?

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 00:45
by Totalpac
I personally would love to see deMori fight Welliver.

Think it would be a bad match up for Welliver though so can't see it happening. Thats not bagging Welliver either, think he has done a great job to get to where he is in the rankings, but stylistically I think deMori would dance around him and make him slow.

Still would love to watch it though.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 08:25
by Craig14
Brute wrote:Is that why he came out here?
You'd have to ask him that. The Aussie heavyweight division is certainly alot weaker than the British though.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 09:32
by Chauncy
I think me and Mark make a very good fight. I would fight him for sure. I'm no Ed Mahone. I am not shot and I'd try to win.
I like Mark and hope he has a great comeback fight. He was top 20 when he last fought and was building a rep as one of Aussies top dogs. He's a nice guy and is good for our sport.
If King accepts the fight we'd even be keen to match up in Oz.

Cheers :OhYes:

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 20:20
by Brute
yid14 wrote:
Brute wrote:Is that why he came out here?
You'd have to ask him that. The Aussie heavyweight division is certainly alot weaker than the British though.
The British list just lost a lot of strength with Haye retiring.

Re: Welliver VS De Mori

Posted: 11 Oct 2011, 22:40
by NZ Fighter
IMO Welliver has too much of a good chin and volume of punches for DeMori. The fight will most likely be a unanimous points win to the Hillyard Hammer. I just cannot see how Mark is going to hurt Chauncy at all. Body shots will be a waste of time and Chauncy hasnt been knocked over in 60fights. Who agrees?