BoxRec

This isn't anything new. Frank Maloney used to do something similar.

I dont recall this being used by Maloney before!

Think its great for small hall boxing.

Maloney had a fighter of the night where they got £500 if I remember rightly.

The idea behind this concept (that Franks previous one didnt wholly do) is
1) Encourage the boxer in the away corner
2) Encourage those boxers to go for a stoppage rather than coast to a points decision
3) Give sometrhing for fight of the night

We are giving £600 for a non TV show which is a lot as many of you will be aware non TV shows do not make a profit.

We hope to develop this idea forward and get sponsorship and make the prizes bigger!

Thanks to Boxrec for throwing in the t shirts

Steve in fairness looking at your bill none of the away boxers will win a round let alone the fight. So that means there will only be £400 on offer.

Spencer Fearons promotional team have been doing it before aswell.

Good idea - it will definitely be an extra incentive, especially for the away boxers - £200 sheets, and a superb BoxRec t-shirt. I've got one, and they wash extremely well - good value at £9.99.

Johnny Greaves is due a win. Dan Carr did ok against Ryan Taylor in the pre-prizefighter bout, and he's in against another debutant in Billy Lavelle. That £200 sovs (and the t-shirt) might just make the difference.

I think everyone agrees that (1) it's a good idea, and (2) it's not as original as the article would indicate.

I do like the fact that BoxRec folk are picking the winners though.

It's something positive and doesn't require the fans to shell out more money, which is rather refreshing. Well done.

Article states new to small hall boxing. Unless I am mistaken Frank Maloney isn't a small hall promoter?

Do the away guys have to win to get bonus or just put in a massive effort?
Sometimes guys put in a big effort and ref doesnt recognise but everyone else does.

jonp wrote:Do the away guys have to win to get bonus or just put in a massive effort?
Sometimes guys put in a big effort and ref doesnt recognise but everyone else does.

I believe it's the guy who comes and tries hardest. They don't have to win.

mbudgen wrote:Article states new to small hall boxing. Unless I am mistaken Frank Maloney isn't a small hall promoter?

Frank promotes lots of small hall shows. Any smaller some of them and you'd have to stick them in my shed.

Nice idea btw. hope it works.

Its a little bit like the UFC shows where they encourage it. It'll make for more exciting bouts. :)

JamesH wrote:I think everyone agrees that (1) it's a good idea, and (2) it's not as original as the article would indicate.

I do like the fact that BoxRec folk are picking the winners though.

It was my idea, and it's completely original in a sense I never heard of Frank Maloney doing it previously, and when I suggested it to him he never mentioned he'd done it before, also if spencers done it previously I've never heard of it and by the sounds of it a lot of you guys haven't either which completely defeats the idea of The concept raising the profile of fighters by rewarding them for outstanding performances and giving fans good fights.

Further to this, too many small hall shows feature bob jones 12-0 (2ko's) against mike smith 17-89-8 (1ko)- they have 40-36 written all over them! The idea that a journeyman has the chance to win a commission bonus purely by putting in a sincere performance will lead hopefully to them taking more chances. This unfamiliar exertion could lead to fatigue and mistakes being made (more ko's) or upsets (more interest).

Further to this I suggested that winners not be announced till the end of the night hopefully retaining the crowd longer- this in turn will allow attendees to familiarise themselves with the promoters other fighters and as such build more of a following.

I wanted the prizes to be significantly more, and I'd also like the websites and press to report and record winners; imagine featuring five times fight of the night winner 'Peter vaughn' against 3 time ko of the night winner Martin concepcion! It's creates a talking point, a selling tool and a it's a bit fun.

This is something that had been on my mind for a while and was going to mention it to a local semi pro promoter. The idea behind it makes it more of amfan friendly sport and is a very business minded venture. Kudos jeffro, great minds ei. Boxing can learn fro UFC at times

kamicazze wrote:This is something that had been on my mind for a while and was going to mention it to a local semi pro promoter. The idea behind it makes it more of amfan friendly sport and is a very business minded venture. Kudos jeffro, great minds ei. Boxing can learn fro UFC at times

Thanks I've got tons of ideas that I put together mate; Frank passed them on to sky and they really liked my suggestions- but at the same time it wasn't their job to input a lot of things such as these awards. Some of my ideas are perhaps impractical but I'd happily share them with any promoter or the bbbc!

The bbbc are the ones I most would like to do some work for if they gave me 2 hours of their time would change uk boxing forever. If anyone can help get me in the hot seat I'd appreciate it.

Jeff Thomas wrote:

JamesH wrote:I think everyone agrees that (1) it's a good idea, and (2) it's not as original as the article would indicate.

I do like the fact that BoxRec folk are picking the winners though.

It was my idea, and it's completely original in a sense I never heard of Frank Maloney doing it previously, and when I suggested it to him he never mentioned he'd done it before, also if spencers done it previously I've never heard of it and by the sounds of it a lot of you guys haven't either which completely defeats the idea of The concept raising the profile of fighters by rewarding them for outstanding performances and giving fans good fights.

Further to this, too many small hall shows feature bob jones 12-0 (2ko's) against mike smith 17-89-8 (1ko)- they have 40-36 written all over them! The idea that a journeyman has the chance to win a commission bonus purely by putting in a sincere performance will lead hopefully to them taking more chances. This unfamiliar exertion could lead to fatigue and mistakes being made (more ko's) or upsets (more interest).

Further to this I suggested that winners not be announced till the end of the night hopefully retaining the crowd longer- this in turn will allow attendees to familiarise themselves with the promoters other fighters and as such build more of a following.

I wanted the prizes to be significantly more, and I'd also like the websites and press to report and record winners; imagine featuring five times fight of the night winner 'Peter vaughn' against 3 time ko of the night winner Martin concepcion! It's creates a talking point, a selling tool and a it's a bit fun.

It's a cracking idea, well thought out. Well done to Steve Goodwin for backing it.

It's a shame Prizefighter didn't have a 'best punch of the night' last month - you'd have bagged that one by a cundry mile.

Jeff is a great guy with lots of great ideas. I would like the prizes to be "significantly more" but as everyone knows there is no money in small hall promoting.

Hopefully the idea gets press and then we can get sponsorship and increase the prizes to the boxers

Dan Dares wrote:

Jeff Thomas wrote:

JamesH wrote:I think everyone agrees that (1) it's a good idea, and (2) it's not as original as the article would indicate.

I do like the fact that BoxRec folk are picking the winners though.

It was my idea, and it's completely original in a sense I never heard of Frank Maloney doing it previously, and when I suggested it to him he never mentioned he'd done it before, also if spencers done it previously I've never heard of it and by the sounds of it a lot of you guys haven't either which completely defeats the idea of The concept raising the profile of fighters by rewarding them for outstanding performances and giving fans good fights.

Further to this, too many small hall shows feature bob jones 12-0 (2ko's) against mike smith 17-89-8 (1ko)- they have 40-36 written all over them! The idea that a journeyman has the chance to win a commission bonus purely by putting in a sincere performance will lead hopefully to them taking more chances. This unfamiliar exertion could lead to fatigue and mistakes being made (more ko's) or upsets (more interest).

Further to this I suggested that winners not be announced till the end of the night hopefully retaining the crowd longer- this in turn will allow attendees to familiarise themselves with the promoters other fighters and as such build more of a following.

I wanted the prizes to be significantly more, and I'd also like the websites and press to report and record winners; imagine featuring five times fight of the night winner 'Peter vaughn' against 3 time ko of the night winner Martin concepcion! It's creates a talking point, a selling tool and a it's a bit fun.

It's a cracking idea, well thought out. Well done to Steve Goodwin for backing it.

It's a shame Prizefighter didn't have a 'best punch of the night' last month - you'd have bagged that one by a cundry mile.

Ha ha thanks m8

stevegoodwin wrote:Jeff is a great guy with lots of great ideas. I would like the prizes to be "significantly more" but as everyone knows there is no money in small hall promoting.

Hopefully the idea gets press and then we can get sponsorship and increase the prizes to the boxers

Cheers Steve

Re the ko thing! See razak vs shinquin for example tonight

Jeff Thomas wrote:

JamesH wrote:I think everyone agrees that (1) it's a good idea, and (2) it's not as original as the article would indicate.

I do like the fact that BoxRec folk are picking the winners though.

It was my idea, and it's completely original in a sense I never heard of Frank Maloney doing it previously, and when I suggested it to him he never mentioned he'd done it before, also if spencers done it previously I've never heard of it and by the sounds of it a lot of you guys haven't either which completely defeats the idea of The concept raising the profile of fighters by rewarding them for outstanding performances and giving fans good fights.

Further to this, too many small hall shows feature bob jones 12-0 (2ko's) against mike smith 17-89-8 (1ko)- they have 40-36 written all over them! The idea that a journeyman has the chance to win a commission bonus purely by putting in a sincere performance will lead hopefully to them taking more chances. This unfamiliar exertion could lead to fatigue and mistakes being made (more ko's) or upsets (more interest).

Further to this I suggested that winners not be announced till the end of the night hopefully retaining the crowd longer- this in turn will allow attendees to familiarise themselves with the promoters other fighters and as such build more of a following.

I wanted the prizes to be significantly more, and I'd also like the websites and press to report and record winners; imagine featuring five times fight of the night winner 'Peter vaughn' against 3 time ko of the night winner Martin concepcion! It's creates a talking point, a selling tool and a it's a bit fun.

I remember boxing news mentioning Maloney doing a cash prize incentive on the night although my recollection of the details of it is a little sketchy. For some reason I seem to remember Tom Dallas winning one prize for a big ko... If you say you never heard of it, that's good enough for me, your a good bloke and its not about having a dig... its just that something along those lines has happened before and I felt the article slightly (though I'm sure not deliberately) misled. I did hear Spencer was doing something similar but I haven't seen/heard specifics.

As for the concept itself, I said it was a good idea but all the same, you justified it eloquently