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KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 11:24
by Speed997
If he were in a fight when the opponent did to him what he did to RJ last night?
Remember. WBA 'eliminator'.
Kells at home.
Kells Promoter.
Kells never hurt.
Would the fight have been stopped?
Yes or no is enough.
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 13:21
by Speed997
Good poll.
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 13:30
by LeedsLad
Not in a million years.
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 13:51
by Speed997
The one vote for YES must be Howard Foster.

Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 14:05
by Howard Foster
Speed997 wrote:The one vote for YES must be Howard Foster.


Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 14:06
by Speed997
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 15:05
by deadpan
Emphatically not.
Ditto
Calzaghe-Mitchell
Calzaghe-Manfredo
Fury-Firtha
DeGale-Dilks
Audley-Bonin
Khan-Barrera (that took the bleeding biscuit)
And that's off the top of my head. It's futile to claim a British ring is anything other than crooked in this regard.
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 09 Oct 2011, 15:07
by JDC
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 06:12
by Scottrf
Can't comment on the early rounds as I missed them, but no. Of course not. The same as an away fighter wont win a close decision in England any time soon.
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 07:16
by forcefraser
It was a poor stoppage. The other guy was not taking a heavy beating at any stage. he was clearly losing, but he is a fighter and whilst he was still in there and not getting badly hurt, why stop it?
There is far too much of it in British rings these days. Khan - Prescott isa good example of how it is one rule for some and a different rule for others.
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 07:36
by danfoster
The point is that Howard Foster was the man in the ring, the one who had to take responsibility for the decision and he came to the honest conclusion that RJ had taken enough. There is no point insinuating that this was a home-town stoppage to manufacture a win for the home fighter - Kell was inevitably going to win. If the fight had continued i can honestly say that i believe Kell would have done him severe damage. This way, RJ lives to fight another day and can continue to make a good living.
And not eat food through a straw.
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 07:43
by Scottrf
danfoster wrote:The point is that Howard Foster was the man in the ring, the one who had to take responsibility for the decision and he came to the honest conclusion that RJ had taken enough. There is no point insinuating that this was a home-town stoppage to manufacture a win for the home fighter - Kell was inevitably going to win. If the fight had continued i can honestly say that i believe Kell would have done him severe damage. This way, RJ lives to fight another day and can continue to make a good living.
And not eat food through a straw.
No one said that, they were asking if the home fighter would be stopped in the same situation. Can you think of any examples?
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 08:02
by CiganoBoxer
Scottrf wrote:
, they were asking if the home fighter would be stopped in the same situation. Can you think of any examples?
he will have a hard job

Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 08:07
by danfoster
Scottrf wrote:danfoster wrote:The point is that Howard Foster was the man in the ring, the one who had to take responsibility for the decision and he came to the honest conclusion that RJ had taken enough. There is no point insinuating that this was a home-town stoppage to manufacture a win for the home fighter - Kell was inevitably going to win. If the fight had continued i can honestly say that i believe Kell would have done him severe damage. This way, RJ lives to fight another day and can continue to make a good living.
And not eat food through a straw.
No one said that, they were asking if the home fighter would be stopped in the same situation. Can you think of any examples?
No, I cant. But i just think it's a bit 'so-what' in this case. It wasn't a dodgy stoppage where the ref did the home fighter a favour. It was a compassionate stoppage. So i don't really know what the issue is.
It seems to me that the argument against the stoppage is 'I would have liked to have seen Kell Brook separate the RJ from his senses and do him real damage. Howard Foster deprived me of that pleasure. This is not fair.'
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 08:10
by Scottrf
danfoster wrote:Scottrf wrote:danfoster wrote:The point is that Howard Foster was the man in the ring, the one who had to take responsibility for the decision and he came to the honest conclusion that RJ had taken enough. There is no point insinuating that this was a home-town stoppage to manufacture a win for the home fighter - Kell was inevitably going to win. If the fight had continued i can honestly say that i believe Kell would have done him severe damage. This way, RJ lives to fight another day and can continue to make a good living.
And not eat food through a straw.
No one said that, they were asking if the home fighter would be stopped in the same situation. Can you think of any examples?
No, I cant. But i just think it's a bit 'so-what' in this case. It wasn't a dodgy stoppage where the ref did the home fighter a favour. It was a compassionate stoppage. So i don't really know what the issue is.
It seems to me that the argument against the stoppage is 'I would have liked to have seen Kell Brook separate the RJ from his senses and do him real damage. Howard Foster deprived me of that pleasure. This is not fair.'
You're almost at the point then of stopping a fight when a boxer goes behind on the cards. Have you never seen a fight turn around - who is to say this couldn’t have?
Nothing to do with being bloodthirsty, referees should be consistent.
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 08:15
by CiganoBoxer
This type of poor referring should stop ...lets be fair the that stoppage in the brook fight was BS ...first two punches Kell caught him with the ref jumped in and stopped it,i mean it wasn't like the guys was even being hurt ...it was like ref couldn't wait to stop it

..its this type of home grown BS that hurting boxing!
As Steve Bunce has said on occasion Paying fans dont wanna see that type of stoppage where its clear the other guy ent hurt or been hurt and is ready and willing to fight on..why stop it ?? give the man half a chance !
Whether in boxing or the UFC if this sort of BS refereeing was happening stateside as much as it happens here then no one would be watching .
Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 08:53
by jonny
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Re: KELL BROOK 'Would he be stopped?'
Posted: 10 Oct 2011, 08:55
by jonny
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