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Dave Parris

Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 19:13
by whiskey
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Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 19:14
by 15829
complete joke needs to be downgraded

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 19:21
by broomy7s
Haha shocking scorecard, right decision just far too wide

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 19:42
by Finn
hes always miles off the mark

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 19:50
by Quixall
Why don't people ask questions of Parris ??

Someone has to say " Tell me how you scored it by that margin.................."

Why should he continue to judge on fights if by all accounts he keeps on getting his scorecards totally different to everyone else ?

Maybe he was listening to it on the radio and wasn't actually at ringside !!!!!

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 10:51
by hurlock
2 words needed.

terrible judge.

we all saw a great dust up :!: they fought from the very first second to the very last :!: i dont know the last time isaw two l.heavys go to town like that.

id like to see cleverley face glenn johnson :!: or bellew that would be tasty :!:

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 10:59
by Final round
Legend of the sport

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 11:00
by LeedsLad
He needs to be put out to grass, with the rest of the British officials.

Either that or the board need to bring in a Kenny Bayless or a Richard Steele or anybody apart from Tillerman to show our lot how to do the job properly.

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 11:25
by forcefraser
There were a lot of close rounds remember. Most fights these days have wide swings in the judges scores.

It was not how most of us would have scored it, but it is not beyond the realms of possibility to see how he got to that score.

I had it level going into the last with Cleverly just pipping it by winning the 12th.

Unless they bring in a fight to the finish, there will always be arguments over score cards. Maybe they should have 5 judges and diregard to the two widest scores?

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 11:44
by Finch
I don't have a big issue with the scoring last night. Most of the rounds were close and you could find an argument either way. Whilst the scorecard looks like a wide margin, most of the rounds Parris gave Clev I'm sure he felt were close.

I felt Clev was a clear winner in a fight that had a lot of close rounds; you could therefore raise an argument why Bellew, on some experts' scorecards, was given the nod or even the draw.

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 11:48
by Final round
Finch wrote:I don't have a big issue with the scoring last night. Most of the rounds were close and you could find an argument either way. Whilst the scorecard looks like a wide margin, most of the rounds Parris gave Clev I'm sure he felt were close.

I felt Clev was a clear winner in a fight that had a lot of close rounds; you could therefore raise an argument why Bellew, on some experts' scorecards, was given the nod or even the draw.
It is amazing how a judge can score a fight so widely different to the majority of people watching around the world and ringside. at least he gave it to the deserved winner

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 12:49
by whiskey
He gave Bellew 3 rounds and a split of another.

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 13:15
by earsjohn
Final round wrote:
Finch wrote:I don't have a big issue with the scoring last night. Most of the rounds were close and you could find an argument either way. Whilst the scorecard looks like a wide margin, most of the rounds Parris gave Clev I'm sure he felt were close.

I felt Clev was a clear winner in a fight that had a lot of close rounds; you could therefore raise an argument why Bellew, on some experts' scorecards, was given the nod or even the draw.
It is amazing how a judge can score a fight so widely different to the majority of people watching around the world and ringside. at least he gave it to the deserved winner
What is also amazing is that the people watching round the world Often lambast a judge for a varying score in a close fight.

TV viewers score the fight based on the TV coverage, including multiple angles, instant and slow-mo replays, focus on the faces and responses on the fighters and can be influenced by the words of the commentators. A judge views it live from a completely different angle to the TV audience, has one angle and no replays.

There will be differences based on what a judge actually sees compared to what the TV audience sees.

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 13:40
by Wake up call
LeedsLad wrote:He needs to be put out to grass, with the rest of the British officials.

Either that or the board need to bring in a Kenny Bayless or a Richard Steele or anybody apart from Tillerman to show our lot how to do the job properly.
Kenny Bayliss and Richard Steele are not judges, they only referee. But it does illustrate a good point. Maybe we should go to the US system of having independent judges.

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 15:00
by whiskey
He made a cock up of the Cunnigham vs Hernandez fight the other week too in Germany.

Re: Dave Parris

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 15:06
by Final round
earsjohn wrote:
Final round wrote:
Finch wrote:I don't have a big issue with the scoring last night. Most of the rounds were close and you could find an argument either way. Whilst the scorecard looks like a wide margin, most of the rounds Parris gave Clev I'm sure he felt were close.

I felt Clev was a clear winner in a fight that had a lot of close rounds; you could therefore raise an argument why Bellew, on some experts' scorecards, was given the nod or even the draw.
It is amazing how a judge can score a fight so widely different to the majority of people watching around the world and ringside. at least he gave it to the deserved winner
What is also amazing is that the people watching round the world Often lambast a judge for a varying score in a close fight.

TV viewers score the fight based on the TV coverage, including multiple angles, instant and slow-mo replays, focus on the faces and responses on the fighters and can be influenced by the words of the commentators. A judge views it live from a completely different angle to the TV audience, has one angle and no replays.

There will be differences based on what a judge actually sees compared to what the TV audience sees.
It's even more amazing that a judge has only one view point for scoring a fight when there could be all manner of things going on while they view from the back.They should have access to another screen for different view points maybe just showing the broadcast if there is one and in an ideal world an easy replay system at their fingertips imo.