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Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 10:10
by ThatOne
Who wins?

Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 10:47
by Rocky Balboa
I'd say Holmes was at his Peak in about 1982. Frazier was over the hill in 1975, so I'll take Larry to skool Joe, whom I feel would ship a great of punishment in this one. Larry's jab would be in his face all night, like a Piston!

Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 11:03
by ThatOne
Rocky Balboa wrote:I'd say Holmes was at his Peak in about 1982. Frazier was over the hill in 1975, so I'll take Larry to skool Joe, whom I feel would ship a great of punishment in this one. Larry's jab would be in his face all night, like a Piston!
Larry was already showing signs of decline is 83. His lackluster performance against Witherspoon had him contemplating retirement.

Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 11:54
by yancey
I don't remember '83 Holmes too well, as I had lost a considerable amount of interest in boxing at that time.

But '75 Frazier was in swift decline and I would reckon '83 Larry to win on points.

'75 Frazier would have to have some intense dislike for his opponent in order to mount a huge effort and as far as I know Larry and Joe were always okay with each other.

Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 15:08
by Goodnight, Irene
Holmes was a little past his prime - Frazier, a LOT past his.

Id favour Holmes.

Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 19:42
by elmersalsa
Holmes wins. Smokin Joe by '75 was finished.

Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 20:23
by gilgamesh
Rocky Balboa wrote:I'd say Holmes was at his Peak in about 1982. Frazier was over the hill in 1975, so I'll take Larry to skool Joe, whom I feel would ship a great of punishment in this one. Larry's jab would be in his face all night, like a Piston!
This is the way I see the fight also

Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

Posted: 19 Oct 2011, 09:08
by Rocky Balboa
ThatOne wrote:
Rocky Balboa wrote:I'd say Holmes was at his Peak in about 1982. Frazier was over the hill in 1975, so I'll take Larry to skool Joe, whom I feel would ship a great of punishment in this one. Larry's jab would be in his face all night, like a Piston!
Larry was already showing signs of decline is 83. His lackluster performance against Witherspoon had him contemplating retirement.
83 Holmes may have slowed down some-what, but his skills had nowhere eroded as much as Frazier's in 1975, no way.

Frazier's vision was impaired going into every fight by then, & his last great performance was against Ali in Manilla. The fact it was Ali in the corner meant Frazier trained his arse off for the fight & got in the best shape he could possibly get in.

Re: Larry Holmes Circa 1983 V Joe Frazier Circa 1975

Posted: 19 Oct 2011, 13:23
by yancey
Rocky Balboa wrote:
ThatOne wrote:
Rocky Balboa wrote:I'd say Holmes was at his Peak in about 1982. Frazier was over the hill in 1975, so I'll take Larry to skool Joe, whom I feel would ship a great of punishment in this one. Larry's jab would be in his face all night, like a Piston!
Larry was already showing signs of decline is 83. His lackluster performance against Witherspoon had him contemplating retirement.
83 Holmes may have slowed down some-what, but his skills had nowhere eroded as much as Frazier's in 1975, no way.

Frazier's vision was impaired going into every fight by then, & his last great performance was against Ali in Manilla. The fact it was Ali in the corner meant Frazier trained his arse off for the fight & got in the best shape he could possibly get in.

Well said. '75 Frazier got it up for Ali and gave a tremendous performance, but he was essentially a shell of the '69-'70 version.