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Jack Dempsey

Gene Tunney

Joe Louis

Rocky Marciano

Larry Holmes

Floyd Patterson

Sonny Liston

Foreman-Dempsey . . I give Dempsey a better chance than Frazier but he has a better style to get inside, plus longer arms and greater one-punch power. But Foreman was so durable and had such great recuperative powers, I have to make Foreman a slight favorite.

He beats the rest save Louis, Holmes and Liston. I've gone back and forth on a Holmes-Foreman matchup and it just really sucks that bout didn't happen around 1977-78 . . that would've been one HELL of a fight.

Tunney . . maybe has a chance, but I would've liked to see him vs some bigger HWs of his era (like the Foreman-sized George Godfrey) before I favor Tunney here.

I'd give Dempsey, Marciano and Patterson no chance.

Favor George solidly over Tunney.

I think Liston is a toss up.

Slightly favor Holmes and Louis.

ThatOne wrote:Jack Dempsey

Gene Tunney

Joe Louis

Rocky Marciano

Larry Holmes

Floyd Patterson

Sonny Liston

Marciano, Patterson, Dempsey...Foreman is assured of success. If any of them has any chance though, its Dempsey.

I would make him a slim favourite over Holmes, and a slim underdog against Liston and Louis. Tunney is a live underdog.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

ThatOne wrote:Jack Dempsey

Gene Tunney

Joe Louis

Rocky Marciano

Larry Holmes

Floyd Patterson

Sonny Liston

Marciano, Patterson, Dempsey...Foreman is assured of success. If any of them has any chance though, its Dempsey.

I would make him a slim favourite over Holmes, and a slim underdog against Liston and Louis. Tunney is a live underdog.

Good assessment. I would be afraid for Floyd Patterson's health against Foreman.

I think '73 Foreman probably bags Louis. Another case of George either succeeding early or wilting badly by the mid-rounds.

Jack Dempsey beats Foreman in 1919 Foreman beats Dempsey in the 70's.

Foreman wins a stinker against Gene Tunney

Joe Louis beats Foreman with ease, stopping him in the middle rounds.

Foreman puts Rocky Marciano down inside three.

Larry Holmes starts slow, but dominates an increasingly slow and exhausted Foreman in 10.

Foreman beats Floyd Patterson inside two rounds

Sonny Liston knocks Foreman out late or gets outpointed.

No matter the outcome, Foreman-Tunney would not be a stinker.

yancey wrote:No matter the outcome, Foreman-Tunney would not be a stinker.

Oh yes it would.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

yancey wrote:No matter the outcome, Foreman-Tunney would not be a stinker.

Oh yes it would.

You don't know what you are talking about.

yancey wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

yancey wrote:No matter the outcome, Foreman-Tunney would not be a stinker.

Oh yes it would.

You don't know what you are talking about.

It was a lighthearted comment. You musn't be British. You're supposed to say.......... Oh no it wouldn't.

I cant possibly see Foreman-Liston lasting the distance, but if that miracle occurred, it sure as hell wouldnt be Foreman winning a decision.

Foreman KO4 Jack Dempsey - Dempsey's a chance, but I think his come forward style and Foreman's uppercuts spell disaster in the early rounds.

Foreman vs Gene Tunney - is a hard one. My head says Foreman, but Tunney was a better boxer than Jimmy Young who beat Foreman, so he certainly has a chance to take a decision. That said, Tunney never fought anyone with Foreman's size and strength.

Joe Louis TKO6 Foreman - I feel confident that Louis goes down at some stage and George could certainly, conceivably stop him. If he does, Louis definitely levels the score by knocking Foreman out in a rematch.

Foreman TKO7 Rocky Marciano - I can't see Rocky winning this one, or surviving the distance.

Larry Holmes UD15 Foreman - Holmes down once, wins 143-141, 144-140 and 145-139 on the scorecards.

Foreman TKO2 Floyd Patterson - Surely wins 100 times out of 100 if we're talking primes. I'll give a prime Patterson a chance of outpointing Foreman

Foreman KO6 Sonny Liston - Liston is certainly the better boxer, but Foreman is the bigger and stronger man IMO both physically and mentally. I think Foreman gets off the canvas to break Liston's spirit, stopping him in the middle rounds.

keithmoonhangover wrote:Jack Dempsey beats Foreman in 1919 Foreman beats Dempsey in the 70's.

Foreman wins a stinker against Gene Tunney

Joe Louis beats Foreman with ease, stopping him in the middle rounds.

Foreman puts Rocky Marciano down inside three.

Larry Holmes starts slow, but dominates an increasingly slow and exhausted Foreman in 10.

Foreman beats Floyd Patterson inside two rounds

Sonny Liston knocks Foreman out late or gets outpointed.

I am 100% sure this is correct. In 1919 A prime Dempsey would easily defeat Foreman 30 years before his birth by punching his father/grandfather in the balls. In the 1970s a prime Foreman would have little trouble knocking out septuagenarian Dempsey.

jezzamundo wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Jack Dempsey beats Foreman in 1919 Foreman beats Dempsey in the 70's.

Foreman wins a stinker against Gene Tunney

Joe Louis beats Foreman with ease, stopping him in the middle rounds.

Foreman puts Rocky Marciano down inside three.

Larry Holmes starts slow, but dominates an increasingly slow and exhausted Foreman in 10.

Foreman beats Floyd Patterson inside two rounds

Sonny Liston knocks Foreman out late or gets outpointed.

I am 100% sure this is correct. In 1919 A prime Dempsey would easily defeat Foreman 30 years before his birth by punching his father/grandfather in the balls. In the 1970s a prime Foreman would have little trouble knocking out septuagenarian Dempsey.

The Foreman Tunney Matchup is intriguing. However if George had the same opportunity that Jack had, at precisely the same time in the second match...(assuming both men are in their prime) I'm thinking Gene would have needed an even "longer" count.

Foreman vs Dempsey: Would be a solid fight I could see Dempsey catching Foreman early with his lunging hooks from the low crouch he liked to use and rocking Big George on a few occasions, possibly even dropping him. But I figure eventually George would either begin to time him out of the crouch and catch him with uppercuts like he did Frazier or he'd use his superior strength to get Dempsey on the ropes and work him over something fierce. I can't see Dempsey making it past 6 rounds.

Foreman vs Tunney: Tunney would try dilligently to outbox Foreman, and would have modest success in spots, but I figure before long Foreman's power would cause Tunney to go into a defensive shell just to survive, and he might. But even so he'd lose either a wide decision or via late KO.

Foreman vs Louis: Again Foreman's strength would present problems to Louis here, and he'd possibly drop him early. But Louis' tenacity and his accurate short power punches would hurt Foreman and cause him to fight more desperately to go for the finish. I could see for a moment a Foreman-Lyle type struggle ensuing, but eventually Louis' poise and greater boxing ability would ultimately win the day. Louis KO 9

Foreman vs Marciano: Rocky as gutsy and tenacious as they come would simply be too overpowered here, he'd be fighting every step of the way, but Foreman would hurt him, cut him, drop him numerous times and stop him by KO within 5 rounds.

Foreman vs Holmes: Holmes who had a style very similar to Muhammad Ali, but not the chin, would probably beat Foreman via 15 round decision, but he'd definitely have his scares along the way. Especially early he'd have his hands full, I'd say Foreman has a strong chance of hurting and scoring the KO within the first 6 or 7 rounds, but after that he'd be too frustrated and tired from running Holmes down to have the power to finish him, and the superior boxing ability of Holmes would shade the majority of the last 7 or 8 rounds.

Foreman vs Patterson: Easiest pick of the lot. Foreman runs over Patterson within 1 or 2 rounds. Every time

Foreman vs Liston: Great fight between two extremely powerful Heavyweights. Foreman had the slight edge in power I'd say, Liston had the edge in boxing ability and definitely had the superior jab of the two. Liston had a sturdy chin, and there's a good chance he could take Foreman's shots and if he could he'd definitely have the ability to win the decision if it went the distance. But I'd agree with a previous poster, that if this fight went the distance it'd be a hell of a surprise. I could see a knockout going either way, but because of his superior boxing ability. I'd have to give a slight edge to Liston.

Dempsey - see the Foreman-Lyle fight...I think Jack has a chance. 50-50 for me.

Tunney - I'd favour Tunney by a ultra thin margin to do a Jimmy Young od Foreman.

Louis - Joe wins 8 out of 10.

Marciano - Foreman wins 9 out of 10.

Holmes - favor Holmes and his jab, but not by much.

Paterson - Foreman by early KO.

Liston - I go with Sonny but it's hard to call.