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WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 13:38
by Boxing Addict
I'm not saying Fury is a world beater !!! but I reckon he outpoints Povetkin who has looked awful the last few times I have seen him

He seems to lack power and usually struggles with B - level opposition, I don't why he rated so highly!

Fury all the way on this one

I'm I wrong???

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 15:10
by funso banjo baby
im fairly sure even a half-motivated Povetkin could be expected to connect with greater power, accuracy and frequency than either Chisora or Firtha...both of whom had him in serious trouble

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 16:12
by Jon Saxon
His Father.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 17:10
by Old bones Ian
No, but its a fight i can see being made for spring next year.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 17:13
by IRLangmaid25
I geniunally believe that Tyson Fury can beat Alexander Povetkin in my opinion, because it will be the first time he will fight for a World title and he will be extremely motivated and willing to show that he is not only a top 10 Heavyweight but a future World Champion and he will get himself in such excellent shape physically and mentally that he would not only beat Povetkin, but do it by a wide margin to a issue a statement of intent that he is one for the future.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 17:16
by LeedsLad
It's not a fight I'd pursue immediately, but I wouldn't make him any more than a 2/1 underdog.

Povetkin has slipped a long way from the seemingly top class prospect that thrashed Chris Byrd, Larry Donald and Eddie Chambers.

Sometimes in boxing the loser of a fight goes on to do better than the winner, but the difference between Chambers and Povetkin since then is pretty big. The fat ass got himself in shape and has done alright for himself, bar the bad defeat to Klitschko of course. Povetkin has had long spells on the sidelines, and fought bums (generally) in between.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 17:35
by Rocky_Hubbick
I think Povektin is very over-rated, marginally more than Fury. They don't really need to fight eachother, not yet anyway.
I think Fury should try and win the European title first.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 17:53
by 15829
povetkin beats fury wide on points hes the future of the heaveyweight division when the klits retire

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 18:02
by whiskey
I'd fancy his chances and he wouldnt be a big underdog.

Fury gave Helenious and G'benga some serious sparring 2+ years ago.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 01 Nov 2011, 18:07
by IRLangmaid25
Rocky_Hubbick wrote:I think Povektin is very over-rated, marginally more than Fury. They don't really need to fight eachother, not yet anyway.
I think Fury should try and win the European title first.
I agree with you Rocky, and also clear out on the British scene and beat at least 2/3 out of the following
The winner of David Price and John McDermott
Sam Sexton
Tom Dallas
Richard Towers.
Michael Sprott.

Then on the European stage 2 out of the 3 out of
Kubrat Pulev
Alexander Ustinov
Alexander Dimitrenko
Robert Helenus (unless he fights one of the Brothers K first)
Albert Sosnosweski
Edward Gerber.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 02 Nov 2011, 13:41
by jessi
No chance, fury has found his level IMO

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 02 Nov 2011, 15:41
by Dan Dares
Good fight.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 02 Nov 2011, 15:46
by Finn
Povetkin is declining between fights for some reason and \Fury is improving between fights, next year i think it would make a competative fight.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 02 Nov 2011, 15:58
by Old bones Ian
kingfinn wrote:Povetkin is declining between fights for some reason and \Fury is improving between fights, next year i think it would make a competative fight.
Sometimes winning a title improves a boxer, as they actually believe in themselves.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 02 Nov 2011, 17:37
by keithmoonhangover
How come I've just noticed this thread. :o

Two of my favourite fighters on the same thread. :yay:

Fury is going to grab a wedge of the world title, but apart from the Klitschkos, Povetkin is the only other heavyweight that beats him.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 02 Nov 2011, 18:00
by alexpaterson
Technically Povetkin is very correct, he throws a lovely jab and works in nice combinations, his workrate is high and his accuracy is brilliant. I can't see Fury troubling him to much, I can't see Fury making his jab count And keeping povetkin behind it, this will allow povetkin in and outwork him inside before keeping tight on the outside jabbing his way in and outworking fury on the inside. I could maybe see a late povetkin stoppage or a landslide decision. Way too early for fury he really needs to improve before these fights get talked about IMO. The likes of Sprott, Sexton, Sosnowski are the sorts of fights he needs

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 02 Nov 2011, 19:28
by Tunney
There are several heavyweights besides the Klitschkos who would probably beat Povetkin, and Tyson Fury is one of them. Robert Helenius is another.

Povetkin has gone downhill since he started working with Teddy Atlas.

If I were a HW contender, I'd target Povetkin not one of the Klitschkos, and after taking Povetkin's paper belt I'd go after a Klitschko for a bigger payday.

If Fury and Povetkin ever fight, I'll do a PayPal bet with whoever wants it on Fury winning.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 05:00
by keithmoonhangover
Tunney wrote:There are several heavyweights besides the Klitschkos who would probably beat Povetkin, and Tyson Fury is one of them. Robert Helenius is another.

Povetkin has gone downhill since he started working with Teddy Atlas.

If I were a HW contender, I'd target Povetkin not one of the Klitschkos, and after taking Povetkin's paper belt I'd go after a Klitschko for a bigger payday.

If Fury and Povetkin ever fight, I'll do a PayPal bet with whoever wants it on Fury winning.
I'll take that bet and I'm Fury's #1 fan. Povetkin would win easily.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 06:19
by Superheavy
I watched the replay of Povetkin v Chagaev on Eurosport last night. Fury does not beat Povetkin.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 06:30
by keithmoonhangover
Superheavy wrote:I watched the replay of Povetkin v Chagaev on Eurosport last night. Fury does not beat Povetkin.
I thought Povetkin showed a lot of guts in that fight. His preparations were poor and Atlas only joined late in the day, but he found a way to win. I think the win will give him confidence and if he can improve his fitness, he will be very hard to beat.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 07:54
by Quixall
I have been saying for a while now that the heavyweight division is pathetic, apart from the Klitschko's who can only fight who is put in front of them, though they do seem to prefer to fight midgets these days !! People have argued that the heavyweight division is still credible and yet here we have a thread that actually asks the question "can Fury beat Povetkin......" Just think about that statement. Fury has had a few exciting dometic battles against McDermott and Chisora and has fought a lot of pot bellied journey man and knocked them out...............That's it !! He hasn't anyone who is remotley near being proper Euro level, nevermind world level and yet some people are saying that he could beat Povetkin !! Then they wonder why i say that the heavyweight division is very poor, because if you honnestly believe that Fury could beat Povetkin, then that in itself quantifies what i have been saying all along. You are virtually saying that a guy who has beaten a few half decent domestic fighters and knocked out a few overweight European journeyman can beat the current WBA heavyweight champion of the world. Fury is exciting and he is progressing, but he has not even proved that he is the best Domestic heavyweight yet and in some of his fights he has been a few punches away from being knocked out. He has a lot to learn and i think his personality, name, media attention give him more qudos that he actually deserves, plus he has gained too much credit in beating Chisora, primarly because of the false level that people thought Chisora was at due to his title shot against Klitschko. I like Fury, he is good to watch, but he has yet to prove himself fully in the small pond that is the domestic scene.........Hold your horses fellas' !!!!!

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 09:28
by Superheavy
Quixall wrote:I have been saying for a while now that the heavyweight division is pathetic, apart from the Klitschko's who can only fight who is put in front of them, though they do seem to prefer to fight midgets these days !! People have argued that the heavyweight division is still credible and yet here we have a thread that actually asks the question "can Fury beat Povetkin......" Just think about that statement. Fury has had a few exciting dometic battles against McDermott and Chisora and has fought a lot of pot bellied journey man and knocked them out...............That's it !! He hasn't anyone who is remotley near being proper Euro level, nevermind world level and yet some people are saying that he could beat Povetkin !! Then they wonder why i say that the heavyweight division is very poor, because if you honnestly believe that Fury could beat Povetkin, then that in itself quantifies what i have been saying all along. You are virtually saying that a guy who has beaten a few half decent domestic fighters and knocked out a few overweight European journeyman can beat the current WBA heavyweight champion of the world. Fury is exciting and he is progressing, but he has not even proved that he is the best Domestic heavyweight yet and in some of his fights he has been a few punches away from being knocked out. He has a lot to learn and i think his personality, name, media attention give him more qudos that he actually deserves, plus he has gained too much credit in beating Chisora, primarly because of the false level that people thought Chisora was at due to his title shot against Klitschko. I like Fury, he is good to watch, but he has yet to prove himself fully in the small pond that is the domestic scene.........Hold your horses fellas' !!!!!
Good post. Fury might do something (and I really hope he does), but we haven't seen enough yet to think he can mix it at championship level.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 09:38
by Quixall
Superheavy wrote:
Quixall wrote:I have been saying for a while now that the heavyweight division is pathetic, apart from the Klitschko's who can only fight who is put in front of them, though they do seem to prefer to fight midgets these days !! People have argued that the heavyweight division is still credible and yet here we have a thread that actually asks the question "can Fury beat Povetkin......" Just think about that statement. Fury has had a few exciting dometic battles against McDermott and Chisora and has fought a lot of pot bellied journey man and knocked them out...............That's it !! He hasn't anyone who is remotley near being proper Euro level, nevermind world level and yet some people are saying that he could beat Povetkin !! Then they wonder why i say that the heavyweight division is very poor, because if you honnestly believe that Fury could beat Povetkin, then that in itself quantifies what i have been saying all along. You are virtually saying that a guy who has beaten a few half decent domestic fighters and knocked out a few overweight European journeyman can beat the current WBA heavyweight champion of the world. Fury is exciting and he is progressing, but he has not even proved that he is the best Domestic heavyweight yet and in some of his fights he has been a few punches away from being knocked out. He has a lot to learn and i think his personality, name, media attention give him more qudos that he actually deserves, plus he has gained too much credit in beating Chisora, primarly because of the false level that people thought Chisora was at due to his title shot against Klitschko. I like Fury, he is good to watch, but he has yet to prove himself fully in the small pond that is the domestic scene.........Hold your horses fellas' !!!!!
Good post. Fury might do something (and I really hope he does), but we haven't seen enough yet to think he can mix it at championship level.
Being the British heavyweight champion doesn't mean you are two or three fights away from being able to compete at world level. He has to face Price to say that he is perhaps the best domestic heavyweight and i still feel that the likes of Rogan, Skelton and Sprott could give him a lot of trouble. Raising your profile and being in the media a lot may make you a viable opponent for a title shot on ticket sales alone, but that doesn't mean you are ready to have that fight.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 19:04
by crusader
Any still think Fury could Povetkin? Pajkic (who has no power and horrible technique) dropped Fury hard and landed almost at will. .

Keith, each time out Fury is making your predictions harder to believe.

Re: WHO THINKS FURY BEATS POVETKIN?

Posted: 12 Nov 2011, 19:12
by Karl Jade
I remember Fury's father saying he'd 'box the head off' George Foreman.