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Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 18:21**

Laying on the ropes and countering isn't a good idea against Marciano. He would sledgehammer Toney's sides and arms until he was too exhausted to punch.

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 18:21**

BIGMARK wrote:This would of been a great match up, I'm talking the Toney that beat Jirov / Holyfield against prime Rocky. the size difference wouldn't be that great and to see Rocky's heart / aggression against Toney's boxing brain / chin / defence would be a treat.

Who wins and how?

Hey Mark, good thread.... where ever did you get the idea?

Toney doesn't hit hard enough to stop Rocky. Marciano works him hard and wins easily on what would be a very painfull night for Lights Out.

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 18:28**

Yes he was, several times.

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 18:32**

Rocky, in about 10, for me.

As Saad said, if Marciano couldn't hit the head all that much, he'll hit him everywhere else, arms, body etc...A proper wear down job.

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 18:35**

Probably not a clear KO, as in the count reaches 10. A stoppage or retirement.

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 18:39**

BIGMARK wrote:This would of been a great match up, I'm talking the Toney that beat Jirov / Holyfield against prime Rocky. the size difference wouldn't be that great and to see Rocky's heart / aggression against Toney's boxing brain / chin / defence would be a treat.

Who wins and how?

I just want to know what you have against James Toney . . .

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 18:48**

BIGMARK wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes he was, several times.
I thought he was KO several times but Rocky was the first to do it, I just read he drew his first fight AKA BHOP and he lost only the one time by UD before fighting Marciano. I think he must of been close to 40 in that fight

Before fighting Marciano, Moore was stopped by the following fighters:

1-21-1944 - Eddie Booker, Hollywood, CA TKO by 8
8-22-1945 - Jimmy Bivins, Cleveland KO by 6
1-13-1948 - Ezzard Charles, Cleveland KO by 8
6-2-1948 - Leonard Morrow, Oakland KO by 1

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 18:50**

BIGMARK wrote:Didn't Moore floor Rocky?

I can only remember Toney hitting the deck once and that was against Jones Jnr

Moore scored a flash knockdown in the second round. He was knocked down five times himself.

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 19:00**

BIGMARK wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
BIGMARK wrote:Didn't Moore floor Rocky?

I can only remember Toney hitting the deck once and that was against Jones Jnr
Moore scored a flash knockdown in the second round. He was knocked down five times himself.
I'm just reading about that fight now

You can see it on youtube.

Rounds 1 & 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VeLZwmdZWY
Rounds 3 & 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdsPpt_CaHs
Rounds 5, 6 & 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzmlTHnd5KE
Rounds 8 & 9: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0er2lGRYqX8

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 19:33**

BIGMARK wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Laying on the ropes and countering isn't a good idea against Marciano. He would sledgehammer Toney's sides and arms until he was too exhausted to punch.
This is what I think makes the fight so interesting because rocky would no doubt be the stronger man while Toney is the better boxer. How much success would Toney have keeping Rocky off him and doing what you said.

This is a classic match up

I don't think he would have any success keeping him off of him. It has some stylistic intrigue, but i don't see it being competitive, much less classic.

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 19:35**

BIGMARK wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Yes he was, several times.
I thought he was KO several times but Rocky was the first to do it, I just read he drew his first fight AKA BHOP and he lost only the one time by UD before fighting Marciano. I think he must of been close to 40 in that fight

I'm not sure where you're reading this, but this site can shore that up for you.

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 19:46**

LOL, no big deal. Old Archie and Toney would have been a better match up. James would have a shot there.

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 19:56**

BIGMARK wrote:Didn't Moore floor Rocky?

I can only remember Toney hitting the deck once and that was against Jones Jnr

Not a legit KD.

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 20:13**

rocky ko2

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 20:46**

Toney loses, by stoppage. Marciano is like Jirov only much much better and a much harder hitter.

Toney would lose to Moore as well.

Posted: **02 Nov 2011, 23:55**

Reggie Johnson decked Toney in what I think was his 2nd MW title defense. It was a very close fight that could have gone either way, and Sam Peter dropped Lights Out, as well in there 2nd bout.

Posted: **03 Nov 2011, 00:41**

Seamus wrote:Reggie Johnson decked Toney in what I think was his 2nd MW title defense. It was a very close fight that could have gone either way, and Sam Peter dropped Lights Out, as well in there 2nd bout.

Johnson was a real knockdown, I thought it was enough to win the fight.

Posted: **03 Nov 2011, 06:31**

BIGMARK wrote:
Seamus wrote:Reggie Johnson decked Toney in what I think was his 2nd MW title defense. It was a very close fight that could have gone either way, and Sam Peter dropped Lights Out, as well in there 2nd bout.
I completly forgot about the Johnson fight but for some reason cant remember Peter dropping Toney, time it seems is catching up on me as i forget a lot of stuff these days.

Put that pint down Mark.

Posted: **03 Nov 2011, 06:34**

BIGMARK wrote:Didn't Moore floor Rocky?

I can only remember Toney hitting the deck once and that was against Jones Jnr

Reggie Johnson and Sam Peter knocked him down. Jones bodychecked him, that shouldn't have been counted.

Posted: **03 Nov 2011, 06:40**

mrbassie wrote:
BIGMARK wrote:Didn't Moore floor Rocky?

I can only remember Toney hitting the deck once and that was against Jones Jnr
Reggie Johnson and Sam Peter knocked him down. Jones bodychecked him, that shouldn't have been counted.

Jones hit him, he lost his balance and went down. It was a legit knockdown.

Posted: **03 Nov 2011, 06:43**

As usual Keith, you dont have a clue.

Posted: **03 Nov 2011, 06:47**

Goodnight, Irene wrote:As usual Keith, you dont have a clue.

Let me guess, you're a Toney fan.

Posted: **03 Nov 2011, 06:58**

keithmoonhangover wrote:
mrbassie wrote:
BIGMARK wrote:Didn't Moore floor Rocky?

I can only remember Toney hitting the deck once and that was against Jones Jnr
Reggie Johnson and Sam Peter knocked him down. Jones bodychecked him, that shouldn't have been counted.
Jones hit him, he lost his balance and went down. It was a legit knockdown.

a punch did land but it was jones jumping into him which put him over, that's not a knockdown in my eyes.

Posted: **03 Nov 2011, 07:23**

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:As usual Keith, you dont have a clue.
Let me guess, you're a Toney fan.

Is anybody a fan of that douche? Guessing is all you seem to do.

Posted: **03 Nov 2011, 07:46**

Goodnight, Irene wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:As usual Keith, you dont have a clue.
Let me guess, you're a Toney fan.

Is anybody a fan of that douche? Guessing is all you seem to do.

Oh dear, you still suffering from little man's syndrome? Still talking rubbish like Vitali being Willard.

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