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Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 07:15
by Pugilist-specialist
According to the magnificent Eddie Hearn on this video :

http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/boxing/b ... _1_3986733

:TU:

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 07:36
by JC
He said there were three options. The belt holders are Pacquiao (WBO), Mayweather (WBC), Berto (IBF) and Senchenko (WBA)

So assuming Floyd and Manny are non-starters then you would think it's either Berto or Senchenko. Wonder who the third option is?

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 07:46
by Counter-puncher
Mike Jones?

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 09:18
by Yes We Can
WBC silver title i would guess???

whats his ranking for each body?

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 09:22
by earsjohn
Ismael Massoudi is the current WBA Interim Champion. Easy fight to make and pretty winnable.

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 09:26
by Camcas
Berto isn't IBF champion so imagine it would be for that belt, could be Senchenko but he wouldn't fight out Ukraine so doubt it

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 09:37
by earsjohn
Camcas wrote:Berto isn't IBF champion so imagine it would be for that belt, could be Senchenko but he wouldn't fight out Ukraine so doubt it
What happened there then? He won the title from Zaveck fair and square and just 2 months is a little unreasonable to be expected to complete a mandatory defence.

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 09:52
by Camcas
earsjohn wrote:
Camcas wrote:Berto isn't IBF champion so imagine it would be for that belt, could be Senchenko but he wouldn't fight out Ukraine so doubt it
What happened there then? He won the title from Zaveck fair and square and just 2 months is a little unreasonable to be expected to complete a mandatory defence.
He relinquished it to chase and Ortiz rematch

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 09:56
by JC
Camcas wrote:
earsjohn wrote:
Camcas wrote:Berto isn't IBF champion so imagine it would be for that belt, could be Senchenko but he wouldn't fight out Ukraine so doubt it
What happened there then? He won the title from Zaveck fair and square and just 2 months is a little unreasonable to be expected to complete a mandatory defence.
He relinquished it to chase and Ortiz rematch
Weird, well in that case I notice Mike Jones is fighting in an IBF eliminator on the 3rd so maybe the winner fights Brook for the vacant title.

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 10:26
by earsjohn
Camcas wrote:
earsjohn wrote:
Camcas wrote:Berto isn't IBF champion so imagine it would be for that belt, could be Senchenko but he wouldn't fight out Ukraine so doubt it
What happened there then? He won the title from Zaveck fair and square and just 2 months is a little unreasonable to be expected to complete a mandatory defence.
He relinquished it to chase and Ortiz rematch
Farcical. Surely Berto v Ortiz II could be made for the IBF belt?

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 10:28
by Asterix

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 10:54
by Camcas
earsjohn wrote:
Camcas wrote:
earsjohn wrote: What happened there then? He won the title from Zaveck fair and square and just 2 months is a little unreasonable to be expected to complete a mandatory defence.
He relinquished it to chase and Ortiz rematch
Farcical. Surely Berto v Ortiz II could be made for the IBF belt?
Thats what i thought wasn't sure why he vacated if im honest

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 10:55
by Camcas
J-C wrote:
Camcas wrote:
earsjohn wrote: What happened there then? He won the title from Zaveck fair and square and just 2 months is a little unreasonable to be expected to complete a mandatory defence.
He relinquished it to chase and Ortiz rematch
Weird, well in that case I notice Mike Jones is fighting in an IBF eliminator on the 3rd so maybe the winner fights Brook for the vacant title.
Think the winner is facing Bailey for the title not 100 percent though

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 10:57
by JC
I see they have Manny as WBO 'Super Champion'. Does that mean a fight could be made for the 'Regular' championship? If so that seems the most likely possibility, they have Jones ranked No1 (but he has the IBF eliminator) and Brook ranked No2.

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 11:07
by Asterix
J-C wrote:
I see they have Manny as WBO 'Super Champion'. Does that mean a fight could be made for the 'Regular' championship? If so that seems the most likely possibility, they have Jones ranked No1 (but he has the IBF eliminator) and Brook ranked No2.
Definitely at least for an 'Interim' championship, as they've done at lightweight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cu ... 61.2_kg.29

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 11:10
by Podmore_Birmingham
I read that Eddie Hearn would be happy for Brook to fight the winner of the soon-to-be-announced vacant IBF title clash between Mike Jones and Randall Bailey next year - which will be won by Jones, i expect. But i can see Matchroom taking Kell the WBA route, as Senchenko is perceived by many to be the weakest of the champions at 10st 7lbs.

Stuart Elwell, who boxed both Senchenko and Brook [and was stopped inside two by both], reckons that the Ukrainian was the slightly better operator. He does admit, however, that Kell has kicked on even further since they fought for the British title in 2009 and can't remember much of that night!

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 11:30
by danfoster
Podmore_Birmingham wrote:I read that Eddie Hearn would be happy for Brook to fight the winner of the soon-to-be-announced vacant IBF title clash between Mike Jones and Randall Bailey next year - which will be won by Jones, i expect. But i can see Matchroom taking Kell the WBA route, as Senchenko is perceived by many to be the weakest of the champions at 10st 7lbs.

Stuart Elwell, who boxed both Senchenko and Brook [and was stopped inside two by both], reckons that the Ukrainian was the slightly better operator. He does admit, however, that Kell has kicked on even further since they fought for the British title in 2009 and can't remember much of that night!
Well Kell dropped Elwell with a jab that night so Senchenko must be a monster!

I've read that the Ukranian is backed by an Abramovic style sugar daddy and it's gonna be practically impossible to get him to fight anyone he doesn't want to so we'll see how it all pans out ...

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 11:32
by Podmore_Birmingham
danfoster wrote:Well Kell dropped Elwell with a jab that night so Senchenko must be a monster!

I've read that the Ukranian is backed by an Abramovic style sugar daddy and it's gonna be practically impossible to get him to fight anyone he doesn't want to so we'll see how it all pans out ...
As said, Elwell doesn't remember a great deal of that fight with Brook, whereas he does with Senchenko; the Ukrainian destroyed him with hooks to the body.

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 11:39
by danfoster
Podmore_Birmingham wrote:
danfoster wrote:Well Kell dropped Elwell with a jab that night so Senchenko must be a monster!

I've read that the Ukranian is backed by an Abramovic style sugar daddy and it's gonna be practically impossible to get him to fight anyone he doesn't want to so we'll see how it all pans out ...
As said, Elwell doesn't remember a great deal of that fight with Brook, whereas he does with Senchenko; the Ukrainian destroyed him with hooks to the body.
Interesting. Quite scary to think that the punches had such an effect on his memory - reminds you what can happen in this dangerous, dangerous sport ...

Re: Kell Brook world title fight in Spring

Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 04:38
by saturday_kid
Hows is Stuart Elwell doing these days?

P.S You thought of doing like maybe interviews or pieces on ex fighters (like Elwell etc) for the blog?

Enjoying reading it mate, 1 of the first sites I look on now.