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mbudgen wrote:As far as I'm aware York Hall costs around 2k to hire out for a small hall promotion. Tv shows are more.

A standard fighters purse is in the region of 1k to £1200 but then most fighters are on ticket deals, meaning they may take more money home if they sell so many tickets etc. However the BBBoC are trying to stop ticket deals (which is ridiculous)


I don't know how much sanctioning fees are although don't forget the cost of security which is another 2k and then £600 for the ring to be put up.

It quickly adds up and it becomes understandable why promoters cant make a living without TV deals.

mbudgen wrote:As far as I'm aware York Hall costs around 2k to hire out for a small hall promotion. Tv shows are more.

A standard fighters purse is in the region of 1k to £1200 but then most fighters are on ticket deals, meaning they may take more money home if they sell so many tickets etc. However the BBBoC are trying to stop ticket deals (which is ridiculous)


I don't know how much sanctioning fees are although don't forget the cost of security which is another 2k and then £600 for the ring to be put up.

It quickly adds up and it becomes understandable why promoters cant make a living without TV deals.

rhino222 wrote:

mbudgen wrote:As far as I'm aware York Hall costs around 2k to hire out for a small hall promotion. Tv shows are more.

A standard fighters purse is in the region of 1k to £1200 but then most fighters are on ticket deals, meaning they may take more money home if they sell so many tickets etc. However the BBBoC are trying to stop ticket deals (which is ridiculous)


I don't know how much sanctioning fees are although don't forget the cost of security which is another 2k and then £600 for the ring to be put up.

It quickly adds up and it becomes understandable why promoters cant make a living without TV deals.

how is it ridiculous?.. promoters should promote, name me another sport where the sportsman sells his own tickets!!

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Damian are you still hoping to have a crack at promoting in the pros?

damianhucker1 wrote: Sanctioning fees , costs of refs/judges/inspectors etc , ring girls (couple of hundred quid) , mc , dj ,medics , the list of un seen extras all costs .

caston wrote:Before you lot on here even think of promoting a pro show try 10 grand with the board ...thats b4 you get your costings right on shows which you havent....hey dont know if u heard 10 st 1lb patrick liam walsh is a lightwelter moving down to lightweight....not a welter as youve had him 4 the last 10 years....

caston wrote:Tournament taxes?....board taxes?....other sundries....do you know the rumour about whats happening with the bond?...you should ask the guy who does the ratings on here...that man is a genius....

slapbangwhallop wrote:

caston wrote:Before you lot on here even think of promoting a pro show try 10 grand with the board ...thats b4 you get your costings right on shows which you havent....hey dont know if u heard 10 st 1lb patrick liam walsh is a lightwelter moving down to lightweight....not a welter as youve had him 4 the last 10 years....

I know about the bond alright. I hopefully have a backer that is willing to put it up.

slapbangwhallop wrote:

caston wrote:Tournament taxes?....board taxes?....other sundries....do you know the rumour about whats happening with the bond?...you should ask the guy who does the ratings on here...that man is a genius....

No, what rumour?

Stop moaning about the ratings, you had a pretty abusive thread about that subject deleted last night if I am not mistaken. They are automated. It you think a fight is in the wrong weight category simply drop a polite note here and they will sort it - http://boxrec.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1

jonp wrote:two doctors are needed they are usualy 200 each plus expenses ,ref come to about 150 bigger show you need 2 refs,time keeper 125 plus expenses,
Damion never pay for your ring girls there are plenty of places willing to let you use girls to advertise there club.Most places are that happy to get a good beer drinking audience that you can get a DJ as part of the deal. Paramedic is about 350 on average.

MC about 150. House seconds 50 quid each,Whip 100 quid to 150 depends how good he is. Board tax depends how good the show is but minimum of 300 pound.

Security varies but what ever you do dont pay for secuirty in areas they arnt needed if you are going to have some one stand by a fire exit door all event just to keep it shut then pay a steward leave the security where they are needed in the arena or front door.

damianhucker1 wrote:

slapbangwhallop wrote:

caston wrote:Before you lot on here even think of promoting a pro show try 10 grand with the board ...thats b4 you get your costings right on shows which you havent....hey dont know if u heard 10 st 1lb patrick liam walsh is a lightwelter moving down to lightweight....not a welter as youve had him 4 the last 10 years....

I know about the bond alright. I hopefully have a backer that is willing to put it up.

same here but im also doing the unlicensed shows and putting all the money earned into an account ready for the pros .

in reply to the other question i dont know how much for the board officials such as timekeepers , referees , judges etc , i plan on picking the brains of a certain person very soon , as for mc i think it will depend on a price negotiated with the specific mc , rather than a set amount , my plan is to take my current mc pro with me and keep using him , but from what i gather i think its approx £500 , dj's again are negotiated individually but there not too expensive , better dj means more money of course but £350 is what id expect at a maximum for a small hall show , ring girls i pay £20 per hour and plan is to stick to that for as long as i can , paramedic crew with ambulance can be got for as little as £150 but i wouldnt recommend using the cheaper ones , a good one i found charges £700 , dr i think is appointed by board so not sure how much a pro licensed dr would be at this point in time , dont take what im saying as gospel though as im only just figuring out all this type of thing due to being maybe so used to how it works with the unlicensed stuff that i know myself ill need to adjust my way of of doing things when moving into the pros , the general ideas are the same (or at least they should be with any reputable promotor ) but there are definate differences , unfortunately those differences cost more .

edit : id say jon is probably not far off as ive just worked out from costs that i know of at £15900 , thats without sanctioning fees for any titles ,with approx prices for officials along with what im expecting them to be and was based on 6 fights . 500 ticket sales should about cover it , and then a further 60 or so ticket sales needed for each additional bout .
basically 6 home fighters doing an average of around 80 tickets each , if one is doing more tickets then someone who your trying to build up who maybe doesnt do so many tickets yet can be thrown in etc .

It's a difficult one. It is probably easier to become a 'professional' boxer than a professional in any other sport - MMA has perhaps overtaken boxing in this. Providing your arms pretty much work with some degree of synchronicity, you can pass the medical and bluff a board official that you can box, you're in. It's a piece of piss. The net result is a swathe of blokes swanning around the place as pro-fighters who are, in reality, shit. The only people who don't realise - or won't accept - these blokes are shit are their friends and family. Only friends and family (and friends of friends and family) will buy tickets; and they'll only buy them if their boy keeps winning. Hence the requirement for shit journeymen or (as is more often the case) journeymen who will, for the appropriate purse (bribe), perform to a standard lower than that which they could perform if they really wanted to.

In an ideal world the set-up would be such that these crappy pros were prepared to box as amateurs, in the same way the vast majority of Sunday leaguers play footy for no wage, but a combination of circumstances prevent this from happening.

MachoMan09 wrote:

rhino222 wrote:how is it ridiculous?.. promoters should promote, name me another sport where the sportsman sells his own tickets!!

It's a difficult one. It is probably easier to become a 'professional' boxer than a professional in any other sport - MMA has perhaps overtaken boxing in this. Providing your arms pretty much work with some degree of synchronicity, you can pass the medical and bluff a board official that you can box, you're in. It's a piece of piss. The net result is a swathe of blokes swanning around the place as pro-fighters who are, in reality, shit. The only people who don't realise - or won't accept - these blokes are shit are their friends and family. Only friends and family (and friends of friends and family) will buy tickets; and they'll only buy them if their boy keeps winning. Hence the requirement for shit journeymen or (as is more often the case) journeymen who will, for the appropriate purse (bribe), perform to a standard lower than that which they could perform if they really wanted to.

In an ideal world the set-up would be such that these crappy pros were prepared to box as amateurs, in the same way the vast majority of Sunday leaguers play footy for no wage, but a combination of circumstances prevent this from happening.

bripez wrote:

MachoMan09 wrote:

rhino222 wrote:how is it ridiculous?.. promoters should promote, name me another sport where the sportsman sells his own tickets!!

It's a difficult one. It is probably easier to become a 'professional' boxer than a professional in any other sport - MMA has perhaps overtaken boxing in this. Providing your arms pretty much work with some degree of synchronicity, you can pass the medical and bluff a board official that you can box, you're in. It's a piece of piss. The net result is a swathe of blokes swanning around the place as pro-fighters who are, in reality, shit. The only people who don't realise - or won't accept - these blokes are shit are their friends and family. Only friends and family (and friends of friends and family) will buy tickets; and they'll only buy them if their boy keeps winning. Hence the requirement for shit journeymen or (as is more often the case) journeymen who will, for the appropriate purse (bribe), perform to a standard lower than that which they could perform if they really wanted to.

In an ideal world the set-up would be such that these crappy pros were prepared to box as amateurs, in the same way the vast majority of Sunday leaguers play footy for no wage, but a combination of circumstances prevent this from happening.

I was going to post my own reply, but the above post sums the situation up nicely.

It is an interesting topic - what happens to the boxer who shows good talent and commitment, but for whatever reason doesn't sell many tickets at the beginning until he has built up a profile / following ?

ApolloCreed wrote:

It's a difficult one. It is probably easier to become a 'professional' boxer than a professional in any other sport - MMA has perhaps overtaken boxing in this. Providing your arms pretty much work with some degree of synchronicity, you can pass the medical and bluff a board official that you can box, you're in. It's a piece of piss. The net result is a swathe of blokes swanning around the place as pro-fighters who are, in reality, shit. The only people who don't realise - or won't accept - these blokes are shit are their friends and family. Only friends and family (and friends of friends and family) will buy tickets; and they'll only buy them if their boy keeps winning. Hence the requirement for shit journeymen or (as is more often the case) journeymen who will, for the appropriate purse (bribe), perform to a standard lower than that which they could perform if they really wanted to.

In an ideal world the set-up would be such that these crappy pros were prepared to box as amateurs, in the same way the vast majority of Sunday leaguers play footy for no wage, but a combination of circumstances prevent this from happening.

Excelllent post

caston wrote:All areas have ring tests and theyre different to how they used to be....they mark on all areas of ability now years ago it was yea or nay.....these lot are goons think journeymen cant fight....yeah like warrens a crap promoter and u can only sell 700 tickets on a 10 fight unlicenced bill....effing grow up tool....