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Thoughts?

yes. Even though he looked ok until the stoppage there is really nowere left for him to go.

Yep, for sure.

I don't say that because I think he is spent. I am sure he has something more he could give but why should he. I think he has reached the heights he can and now he is 38, slowing down and just suffered 2 stoppages. Despite Fox commentators thoughts, he got he hard and often throughout tonight and is slowing down.

He has made his money and been a legend of the game in Aus.

I hope he retires and enjoys life after boxing..

Yes i hope so.
In a nutshell his fitness aint the same since his op at the start of the year. He was gassed after rnd 7.
I dont want to see him finish up on 3 or 4 ko losses.

I hope if he does continue its not at crusier. If he does hang em up well fair play to him. I definitely dont wanna see him go out on another few KO losses. He has proved he is a fighter. And if he retires he can continue to promote which he does very well. Lets be honest- his cards are great value. There were 3 very good fights tonight, 2 going to the cards. Chin up Greeny.

P.S. did like the "love yuz all" comment. Classic Fenech and perhaps a subconscious payment of respect to his former mentor.

two stoppages in a row is a good indicator. He should focus on promoting. Its time for us to turn our attention to tomlinson, dib and geale.

Yes.

One cannot beat that old devil:time and it is time for Danny to hang 'em up! There is nothing more to prove!

He looked physically drained by the 8th, despite leading on points with the Pole unmarked and Danny starting to fray around the edges. He cannot go the distance against the top eschelon anymore and what is the point in having a crack at Shane Cameron. Only more money and the accumulation of punches from the previous two fights will take its toll!

thunderfromdownunder wrote:two stoppages in a row is a good indicator. He should focus on promoting. Its time for us to turn our attention to tomlinson, dib and geale.

...so you can run them down now.

he would have a good arguement eigher way. he went 11 rounds with one of the best out there and came very very close to pulling it off. on the otherhand he was the guy who never ever looked like getting knocked out and has just had to kos handed to him.

heres a scenario if the pole went on to fight huck and huck doesnt do anywhere near as well green did against the pole does that give reason to think that green might beat huck ?

but yeah even from the first round he didnt look fast as he normally does especially his jab! he sped up a little in the mid rounds but he was a much slower version than the green who fought flores rjj briggs siacca or domineguez. i know he was heavy at 89.5 but i cant help but think if he was going to try and outpoint the pole wouldnt he have been better off staying a little bit lighter maybe 87 kgs and keeping his speed and stamina?

Brute wrote:

thunderfromdownunder wrote:two stoppages in a row is a good indicator. He should focus on promoting. Its time for us to turn our attention to tomlinson, dib and geale.

...so you can run them down now.

always trying to start arguments. Act your age buddy

I'd say yes. Danny's true weight these days is light heavy-way too small for these guys. If he wants one more he should drop down but no one would blame him for retiring now

Did anyone else notice he came to the fight with a blackeye???? What the fornicate is he thinking?

Yep certainly time to retire, he's lost to an old man and a mental case in his last 2 fights. He probably won't retire though, but I can't see him getting another world title shot straight away. He should definatly rule out fighting Shane Cameron, to young and fit for him. It would also be bad for his legacy losing to someone he would of beat with ease in his prime.

Meh, he's still got a couple of fights left in him, he promotes a good show and Australian boxing is better off with him than without him, so I recon that if he wants to keep on fighting, then no problemo.

I feel he came back prematurely after his surgery and should be fighting at Light Heavyweight. After watching the fight, I had it pretty even until the KO.

That said, I reckon it's time for him to hang up the gloves, two losses in a row now, both by KO, he's 38 and has had his time.

Its up to Danny if he wants to hang them up, He was well ahead at the time of the stoppage and Diablo is one of the top few cruisers in the World. its no disgrace losing against him.

Really though Danny has nothing left to prove, he is a 3 time champion and has fought and beaten some tough guys. He has fought all over the world and has had a great career. If he does hang them up then good on him.

It was a proud effort and even in defeat you'd have to say it proved he's still world class, but it's not going to get any easier for him, so I vote yes.

I've had a chance to digest the evening and i wouldn't be disappointed if he continued.

Yeah at lt Heavy and super middle he had a indestructable chin, and age has probably played into fitness problems and proved that invincabilty doesn't exist at the heavier weights.

Can he come back....sure why not,but seroiusly needs to learn that boxing can be used at higher weights and knocking everyone out is not an option.

I actually want Green to fight the guy again without coming into the fight already tender(blackeye), and without Hyder in the corner, from Salas to hyder....wow.

Maybe a couple of domestic fights very quickly, if he should lose again, pack it in, but build confidence again then have a shot 1 more time.

Losing Green in Australian boxing would be massive, maybe stop trying to be a an absolute nutter when it comes to preparation, i have no doubt Green is the better fighter of the 2.

thunderfromdownunder wrote:

Brute wrote:

thunderfromdownunder wrote:two stoppages in a row is a good indicator. He should focus on promoting. Its time for us to turn our attention to tomlinson, dib and geale.

...so you can run them down now.

always trying to start arguments. Act your age buddy

Are you saying that being an Australian boxer who holds a title is not a target for you? I have seen your comments in " Current Scene" so give it a rest.

Hounddawg wrote:I've had a chance to digest the evening and i wouldn't be disappointed if he continued.

Yeah at lt Heavy and super middle he had a indestructable chin, and age has probably played into fitness problems and proved that invincabilty doesn't exist at the heavier weights.

Can he come back....sure why not,but seroiusly needs to learn that boxing can be used at higher weights and knocking everyone out is not an option.

I actually want Green to fight the guy again without coming into the fight already tender(blackeye), and without Hyder in the corner, from Salas to hyder....wow.

Maybe a couple of domestic fights very quickly, if he should lose again, pack it in, but build confidence again then have a shot 1 more time.

Losing Green in Australian boxing would be massive, maybe stop trying to be a an absolute nutter when it comes to preparation, i have no doubt Green is the better fighter of the 2.

i realy think he should of had a domestic fight before this one. how anyone could be used to that much of a weight jump from january to november around 75 to 89.5 kgs. especially at that level of competition. ive never seen green gas like that before and can only put it down to the extra weight. he went 12 rounds a year ago with bj flores and kept up the pace just fine. i know hes 38 but hey he could do it at 37 and its not like he isnt a fit person inbetween fights. maybe he gave in to external poressures to fight a top contender and wanted to prove what he was all about.

scottearley123456 wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:I've had a chance to digest the evening and i wouldn't be disappointed if he continued.

Yeah at lt Heavy and super middle he had a indestructable chin, and age has probably played into fitness problems and proved that invincabilty doesn't exist at the heavier weights.

Can he come back....sure why not,but seroiusly needs to learn that boxing can be used at higher weights and knocking everyone out is not an option.

I actually want Green to fight the guy again without coming into the fight already tender(blackeye), and without Hyder in the corner, from Salas to hyder....wow.

Maybe a couple of domestic fights very quickly, if he should lose again, pack it in, but build confidence again then have a shot 1 more time.

Losing Green in Australian boxing would be massive, maybe stop trying to be a an absolute nutter when it comes to preparation, i have no doubt Green is the better fighter of the 2.

i realy think he should of had a domestic fight before this one. how anyone could be used to that much of a weight jump from january to november around 75 to 89.5 kgs. especially at that level of competition. ive never seen green gas like that before and can only put it down to the extra weight. he went 12 rounds a year ago with bj flores and kept up the pace just fine. i know hes 38 but hey he could do it at 37 and its not like he isnt a fit person inbetween fights. maybe he gave in to external poressures to fight a top contender and wanted to prove what he was all about.

BJ and Wlod are two totally different fighters. Wlod was relentless in walking forward and the "may" have been as mentally draining for danny as it was physically. I dont think BJ was ever going to hurt Greenybecause he was reluctant to step into Dans range, which didnt bother Wlod. Initially I hoped Greeny hung up the gloves, and in a way I hope he does. But after watching the fight again, and regardless of what some anti green posters have said, he was winning the fight easily up until round 9. The judges had it pretty spot on at the time the fight was stopped. Now I can see Greeny thinking that 4 minutes is all he had to go and one punch took away what was his. I couldnt imagine Wlod would fight that cautiously again though and the outcome may be quicker than the original. With these variants I can see why Green would say rematch. I know Green couldnt make Lt heavy again, but weighing in against Wlod at about 85-87kg, I believe would be a positive.
Either way, the day Green stops fighting will be a huge loss to Aust boxing. No one has brought the likes of Tarver, Jones and now the reigning WBC Cruiser champ in Wlod to our shores. Hopefully he keeps the right people at GMP and continues on in boxing because Australian boxing needs Green in some form.

scottearley123456 wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:I've had a chance to digest the evening and i wouldn't be disappointed if he continued.

Yeah at lt Heavy and super middle he had a indestructable chin, and age has probably played into fitness problems and proved that invincabilty doesn't exist at the heavier weights.

Can he come back....sure why not,but seroiusly needs to learn that boxing can be used at higher weights and knocking everyone out is not an option.

I actually want Green to fight the guy again without coming into the fight already tender(blackeye), and without Hyder in the corner, from Salas to hyder....wow.

Maybe a couple of domestic fights very quickly, if he should lose again, pack it in, but build confidence again then have a shot 1 more time.

Losing Green in Australian boxing would be massive, maybe stop trying to be a an absolute nutter when it comes to preparation, i have no doubt Green is the better fighter of the 2.

i realy think he should of had a domestic fight before this one. how anyone could be used to that much of a weight jump from january to november around 75 to 89.5 kgs. especially at that level of competition. ive never seen green gas like that before and can only put it down to the extra weight. he went 12 rounds a year ago with bj flores and kept up the pace just fine. i know hes 38 but hey he could do it at 37 and its not like he isnt a fit person inbetween fights. maybe he gave in to external poressures to fight a top contender and wanted to prove what he was all about.

Who would you have wanted him to fight? Pitt? Vea? There is a big gap between Green and the rest of the cruiserweights in Australia.

scottearley123456 wrote:

Hounddawg wrote:I've had a chance to digest the evening and i wouldn't be disappointed if he continued.

Yeah at lt Heavy and super middle he had a indestructable chin, and age has probably played into fitness problems and proved that invincabilty doesn't exist at the heavier weights.

Can he come back....sure why not,but seroiusly needs to learn that boxing can be used at higher weights and knocking everyone out is not an option.

I actually want Green to fight the guy again without coming into the fight already tender(blackeye), and without Hyder in the corner, from Salas to hyder....wow.

Maybe a couple of domestic fights very quickly, if he should lose again, pack it in, but build confidence again then have a shot 1 more time.

Losing Green in Australian boxing would be massive, maybe stop trying to be a an absolute nutter when it comes to preparation, i have no doubt Green is the better fighter of the 2.

i realy think he should of had a domestic fight before this one. how anyone could be used to that much of a weight jump from january to november around 75 to 89.5 kgs. especially at that level of competition. ive never seen green gas like that before and can only put it down to the extra weight. he went 12 rounds a year ago with bj flores and kept up the pace just fine. i know hes 38 but hey he could do it at 37 and its not like he isnt a fit person inbetween fights. maybe he gave in to external poressures to fight a top contender and wanted to prove what he was all about.

Got to agree there mate, he defiantly has pushed himself pretty hard over the last year, 3 very good Cruisers plus the operation.
I think it's all been for the fans in the last 12 months, and wanted to give back, he's forked out some cash to get these big figfhts and i've really felt like a fan getting my moneys worth.
And even tho he's been stopped twice in both fights he had his opponent in trouble.
I think if he does comeback have a rest, still train the way you would as a fighter trying to make weight for Lt Heavy and come in around 85 or 86 Kilo's, he needs a bit more speed and his timing isn't quite there anymore.

There is that possability if they rematch that the Polish bloke will try and walk through early, but i would say from my observation of the fight, that it was an accumalitive effect coupled with fatigue and soreness, and Green kept him at bay with very decent power until the 9th. As you said an extra 4 or 5 kilo's might be too much.

I agree about the domestic fight, give someone a shot maybe Vatalie Soi or a hard working local guy, maybe challenge for the commonwealth title there after, but i would like to see Green have a shot at both recent defeats again more so the Polak.

Whats happening with Tarver ?? he talks about going up to Heavy but I see he has no one scheduled yet. Also there is mention of a Lebedev bout. If Tarver goes up will he vacate the IBO belt. Im sure the IBO would oove to have Danny back as their champ, maybe a bout with Cameron for the vacant belt ?? All hyperthetical, but i just havent heard anything of Tarver yet (in regards to defending his title, not fighting Greeny) and was wondering if anyone else has?