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Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:08
by mcato
Well done Chisora you boxed well. Robbed. You might as well boxed in Germany

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:09
by dazzer
agreed i had del boy winning by 5 rounds

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:10
by taffytoon
115-113 Chisora here.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:10
by Karl Jade
Shocking decision. Helenius is another one hyped beyond belief.

It's a shame for Chisora, he unfortunately trained hard for the wrong fight.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:11
by sendo
It doesn't matter long term though - as long he stays in this shape he will get plenty of other fights and a lot more support after this.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:11
by Camcas
Worst decision of year

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:11
by bigped
helenius was 4/1 on some betting sites when the scores were about to get read out, total disgrace chisora done well

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:12
by harry1980
Massive robbery.

Absolute disgrace.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:13
by Newport Daz
Chisora won easily, 8-4. The ref and the result is a disgrace. I knew he was going to get the shaft when the Sauerlands had Helenius up 5-1 after 6 rounds.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:13
by ThereByTheGrace
I find it a bit strange - allegedly are having a Stewards Enquiry right now - allegedly on the phone - jeez oh.

Wouldnt say robbed - it was another close fight. His play acting cost him

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:15
by TheCobra
bigped wrote:helenius was 4/1 on some betting sites when the scores were about to get read out, total disgrace chisora done well
Yep I filled my boots mate I knew he'd get robbed, it's a shame but Chisora emerges with massive credit. Such an infuriating character CHisora, where was this fighter in the Fury fight? STupid git.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:16
by exittored
I didn't think it was a 'Robbery' as 115-113 x 3 split decision dosen't indicate that.

Alot of Chisora's punches were also being blocked and Helenius did clearly win that last rd.

Either way Chisora was brilliant and his stock definately went up and Roberts went down.

Helenius would destroy him in a rematch though considering he broke his right hand in the 1st round.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:17
by rhino222
firstly it was a magnificent fight, helenius is good, very good, surprisingly durable and hard hitting for his build. chirosa fought an excellent fight, he battled helenius and the referee. much as i am a fury fan i thought we might be watching the 3rd and 4th best heavyweights in the world in there. i had it 115-113 to chirosa, that indicates it was a close fight, therefore it was not a robbery, no cigar im afraid!

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:18
by TheCobra
There's was something almost Tyson-esque about Chisora tonight, in a little kind of way.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:18
by Camcas
rhino222 wrote:firstly it was a magnificent fight, helenius is good, very good, surprisingly durable and hard hitting for his build. chirosa fought an excellent fight, he battled helenius and the referee. much as i am a fury fan i thought we might be watching the 3rd and 4th best heavyweights in the world in there. i had it 115-113 to chirosa, that indicates it was a close fight, therefore it was not a robbery, no cigar im afraid!
Helenius is awful

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:19
by Tommy Gunn13
114-114 here,very close fight..Chisora would beat Fury on that showing no probs :box:

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:21
by SAPFO
TheCobra wrote:There's was something almost Tyson-esque about Chisora tonight, in a little kind of way.
Me too. Just without the knockout power

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:22
by BAMBI
Helinus is good? He survived due to his size and he showed nothing that makes a good fighter.
Chisora had mad disadvantages and still won in the majority's eyes.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:23
by exittored
Camcas wrote:
rhino222 wrote:firstly it was a magnificent fight, helenius is good, very good, surprisingly durable and hard hitting for his build. chirosa fought an excellent fight, he battled helenius and the referee. much as i am a fury fan i thought we might be watching the 3rd and 4th best heavyweights in the world in there. i had it 115-113 to chirosa, that indicates it was a close fight, therefore it was not a robbery, no cigar im afraid!
Helenius is awful
Helenius broke his right hand in the 1st rd, thats his power punch hand so let's not judge him on this performance.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:24
by mcato
Camcas wrote:
rhino222 wrote:firstly it was a magnificent fight, helenius is good, very good, surprisingly durable and hard hitting for his build. chirosa fought an excellent fight, he battled helenius and the referee. much as i am a fury fan i thought we might be watching the 3rd and 4th best heavyweights in the world in there. i had it 115-113 to chirosa, that indicates it was a close fight, therefore it was not a robbery, no cigar im afraid!
Helenius is awful
Helenius was rubbish, unfit threw minimal punches. I dont know how he got those belts. Boxing is dying because of these decisions

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:25
by harry1980
Camcas wrote:
rhino222 wrote:firstly it was a magnificent fight, helenius is good, very good, surprisingly durable and hard hitting for his build. chirosa fought an excellent fight, he battled helenius and the referee. much as i am a fury fan i thought we might be watching the 3rd and 4th best heavyweights in the world in there. i had it 115-113 to chirosa, that indicates it was a close fight, therefore it was not a robbery, no cigar im afraid!
Helenius is awful
Helenius in the top 4 heavweights in the world?? Hahahaha!!! I know the heavyweight division is the worst it's EVER been right now, but come on, top 4? He looked absoluetely awful in there tonight......and in previous fights too!!

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:26
by yiddo14
exittored wrote:I didn't think it was a 'Robbery' as 115-113 x 3 split decision dosen't indicate that.

Alot of Chisora's punches were also being blocked and Helenius did clearly win that last rd.

Either way Chisora was brilliant and his stock definately went up and Roberts went down.

Helenius would destroy him in a rematch though considering he broke his right hand in the 1st round.
Helenius lost tonight. Simple really.

Pump out all the excuses you want. He is not the fighter his cheerleaders dream he is.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:26
by crusader
mcato wrote:
Camcas wrote:
rhino222 wrote:firstly it was a magnificent fight, helenius is good, very good, surprisingly durable and hard hitting for his build. chirosa fought an excellent fight, he battled helenius and the referee. much as i am a fury fan i thought we might be watching the 3rd and 4th best heavyweights in the world in there. i had it 115-113 to chirosa, that indicates it was a close fight, therefore it was not a robbery, no cigar im afraid!
Helenius is awful
Helenius was rubbish, unfit threw minimal punches. I dont know how he got those belts. Boxing is dying because of these decisions
There have always been loads of shit decisions and down right fixes, even when boxing was booming.

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:30
by exittored
yiddo14 wrote:
exittored wrote:I didn't think it was a 'Robbery' as 115-113 x 3 split decision dosen't indicate that.

Alot of Chisora's punches were also being blocked and Helenius did clearly win that last rd.

Either way Chisora was brilliant and his stock definately went up and Roberts went down.

Helenius would destroy him in a rematch though considering he broke his right hand in the 1st round.
Helenius lost tonight. Simple really.

Pump out all the excuses you want. He is not the fighter his cheerleaders dream he is.
If you think a broken right hand is an excuse then please yourself. I'm all for a Rematch with a fit and healthy Helenius using both HANDS and then we'll see if Derek is anywhere near as effective.

I thought it was a close fight and was impressed by Chisora but i think it was more to do with what Helenius didn't or couldn't do due to his right hand.

Either way i'd like to see Chisora vs Price next if Frank Maloney has the cajones to make that match rather then bleeting on about Fury all the time!

Re: Chisora Robbed

Posted: 03 Dec 2011, 19:32
by black panther
I can't see how you can have that fight for Helenius or even close to be honest. Maybe I'm missing something. He was missing most of his shots and his workrate was very low. Meanwhile Chisora was consistently getting to his body and ocassionally clean to the head whilst maintaining the workrate.

For the record going in I thought Helenius would win by knockout.