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Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 08 Dec 2011, 01:05
by Rags19
Heard he may be fighting here in the States on December 30th. I've heard the name, but never seen him fight and trying to decide if its worth the trip.

Does anyone have any video of some of his recent stuff that you could share? I've found some stuff on youtube.com; but its all 1-5 minutes long either highlights or his first round TKO of Tye Fields.

Something with some substance would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 08 Dec 2011, 07:37
by john welsh
There isn`t many that go past round 2 to be honest,the prize fighter one is the best to see

try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnTG7YvRos

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 08 Dec 2011, 15:30
by funso banjo baby
he's not been tested yet

very inactive and only 6ft

but better than Solis

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 07:13
by 15829
funso banjo baby wrote:he's not been tested yet

very inactive and only 6ft

but better than Solis


solis is far better

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 08:02
by loaded_gloves
Perez appears to be in shape and likes to fight hard, Solis whilst equipped with plenty of skill and power is lazy, grossly overweight and has turned out to be seriously lacking in punch resistance without the big mitts and headgear. I wish Perez would fight more often.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 09:21
by Newport Daz
loaded_gloves wrote:Perez appears to be in shape and likes to fight hard, Solis whilst equipped with plenty of skill and power is lazy, grossly overweight and has turned out to be seriously lacking in punch resistance without the big mitts and headgear. I wish Perez would fight more often.
I wouldn't say Solis lacks punch resistance as such, Haye hit him flush much harder than Vitali did. He was shook up no doubt, but didn't go down. At no point during his other fights has he shown any chin vulnerabilty and Vitali's reaction when Solis went over suggests he didn't land anything hard. Due to being so overweight and out of shape, I'd say Solis just lacks body resistance.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 10:04
by exittored
Rags19 wrote:Heard he may be fighting here in the States on December 30th. I've heard the name, but never seen him fight and trying to decide if its worth the trip.

Does anyone have any video of some of his recent stuff that you could share? I've found some stuff on youtube.com; but its all 1-5 minutes long either highlights or his first round TKO of Tye Fields.

Something with some substance would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Hi Rags

My reading of Perez is that he's a heavy handed heavyweight who tries to bomb his opponents out first couple of rds by rushing them and throwing bombs and this works great against the kind of low level heavyweights he's faced so far but if those guys are still there after 3 or 4 rds he starts to lose focus and dosen't really have any other tools or answers and seems to get bored or sleepwalk the rest of fight.

If your man DW can survive those first few rds and gets his jab pumping out into Mikes face constantly i think DW could take him to deep waters and drown him later in the fight so i think it'd be a good fight for DW if he can come in shape and focused as it's a winnable fight for him but one that won't be easy.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 10:05
by WelshDevil
Wish he'd fight more often. Looks a cracking prospect though.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 11:16
by gizmo1
Have you guys noticed how short his arms are? He is constantly lunging in to make up for it. This is clearly gonna cause him problems against better opposition. Also, the way his weight seems to be going up may suggest that he favours the Odlanier Solis fitness regime! This will certainly hinder his progress.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 12:19
by loaded_gloves
Newport Daz wrote: I wouldn't say Solis lacks punch resistance as such, Haye hit him flush much harder than Vitali did. He was shook up no doubt, but didn't go down. At no point during his other fights has he shown any chin vulnerabilty.

You're talking about TEN YEARS ago mate, with the big gloves.

He took a shot on the top of the head, an arm punch, and was jelly. This wasn't exposed by earlier opponents because he has exclusively dined on bums who didn't challenge him.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 12:43
by Counter-puncher
the cubans need to watch their step and back off from the buffet table

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 14:02
by exittored
King Geedorah wrote:
loaded_gloves wrote:
Newport Daz wrote: I wouldn't say Solis lacks punch resistance as such, Haye hit him flush much harder than Vitali did. He was shook up no doubt, but didn't go down. At no point during his other fights has he shown any chin vulnerabilty.

You're talking about TEN YEARS ago mate, with the big gloves.

He took a shot on the top of the head, an arm punch, and was jelly. This wasn't exposed by earlier opponents because he has exclusively dined on bums who didn't challenge him.
Yeah, plus the guy was so fat that his knee couldn't support his quivering weight. Hardly a sign that world domination beckons. Cuban defectors should be tied to a bedf, fed via IV drip and not allowed within a thousand yards of a gaudy gold jewelry store. Or a Cash Converter.
His dream growing up in Cuba was to one day leave his family and friends behind and defect to America so that he could spend all his money on buying spongebob sqaure pants jewellry and then when he's fat, old and broke live on the streets as a bum...so i guess yeah he's living the American dream!

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Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 14:59
by loaded_gloves
Before long he'll be foraging through dumpsters and fighting Jorge Luis Gonzalez for discarded cheese burgers.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 17:36
by Karl Jade
funso banjo baby wrote:he's not been tested yet

very inactive and only 6ft

but better than Solis
Based on what? :lol:

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 17:38
by Final round
exittored wrote:
King Geedorah wrote:
loaded_gloves wrote:
You're talking about TEN YEARS ago mate, with the big gloves.

He took a shot on the top of the head, an arm punch, and was jelly. This wasn't exposed by earlier opponents because he has exclusively dined on bums who didn't challenge him.
Yeah, plus the guy was so fat that his knee couldn't support his quivering weight. Hardly a sign that world domination beckons. Cuban defectors should be tied to a bedf, fed via IV drip and not allowed within a thousand yards of a gaudy gold jewelry store. Or a Cash Converter.
His dream growing up in Cuba was to one day leave his family and friends behind and defect to America so that he could spend all his money on buying spongebob sqaure pants jewellry and then when he's fat, old and broke live on the streets as a bum...so i guess yeah he's living the American dream!

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:lol: Holy Shit that Sponge Bob necklace is a classic, my son would love it.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 09 Dec 2011, 20:56
by demolitiondaley
He doesn't hit that hard and I saw him fight zach page in 2009, he gassed when taken into the later rounds. I think he will struggle against anyone with a good jab and good footwork.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 10 Dec 2011, 02:18
by yiddo14
It's a shame when any fighter cuts corners but I'm not going to blame the Cuban guys too much.
Some of these chaps have been training like world champions from the age of 8!!!

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 10 Dec 2011, 11:46
by Rags19
Hi Rags

My reading of Perez is that he's a heavy handed heavyweight who tries to bomb his opponents out first couple of rds by rushing them and throwing bombs and this works great against the kind of low level heavyweights he's faced so far but if those guys are still there after 3 or 4 rds he starts to lose focus and dosen't really have any other tools or answers and seems to get bored or sleepwalk the rest of fight.

If your man DW can survive those first few rds and gets his jab pumping out into Mikes face constantly i think DW could take him to deep waters and drown him later in the fight so i think it'd be a good fight for DW if he can come in shape and focused as it's a winnable fight for him but one that won't be easy.
Thanks. We were asked about the fight, but its not going to work at this time, but it just so happens I'm going to be in California for work that week and thought I would check it out, but didn't want to waste my time if Perez doesn't bring anything to the table. I'm curious enough now to take a look. We're talking about DW v. Perez for March 17th as a possibility, so I guess some up-close scouting can't hurt.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 10 Dec 2011, 13:05
by loaded_gloves
Who is DW please, gents?

Please, God, tell me it's not Danny Williams.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 10 Dec 2011, 14:53
by exittored
loaded_gloves wrote:Who is DW please, gents?

Please, God, tell me it's not Danny Williams.
DaVarryl Williamson

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 10 Dec 2011, 15:05
by exittored
Rags19 wrote:
Hi Rags

My reading of Perez is that he's a heavy handed heavyweight who tries to bomb his opponents out first couple of rds by rushing them and throwing bombs and this works great against the kind of low level heavyweights he's faced so far but if those guys are still there after 3 or 4 rds he starts to lose focus and dosen't really have any other tools or answers and seems to get bored or sleepwalk the rest of fight.

If your man DW can survive those first few rds and gets his jab pumping out into Mikes face constantly i think DW could take him to deep waters and drown him later in the fight so i think it'd be a good fight for DW if he can come in shape and focused as it's a winnable fight for him but one that won't be easy.
Thanks. We were asked about the fight, but its not going to work at this time, but it just so happens I'm going to be in California for work that week and thought I would check it out, but didn't want to waste my time if Perez doesn't bring anything to the table. I'm curious enough now to take a look. We're talking about DW v. Perez for March 17th as a possibility, so I guess some up-close scouting can't hurt.
I hope DW gets the fight because as i mentioned it's a very winnable fight for him if he fights smart which with respect i don't think DW did in his 2 recent losses against Meehan and Austin where he blew his load early and gassed out.

I'm sure your team will come up with a great gameplan on how to beat Perez but if you allow me to throw my 2 pennies worth here's a few tactics to throw your way.

If i was DaVarryls trainer i would make sure he uses his jab and reach advantages(6ft 4 to Mikes 6ft) for the first 4 or 5 rds to allow Perez to throw his wild punches and exert alot of energy during those rds, DW just needs to save his energy and stick that jab in Mikes face during these rds plus mix it up with some uppercuts and right crosses occassionly but never fully commit himself or allow Perez into range as he'll start to lose focus and drift through the fight.

By the 5th or 6th rd once Perez has started to slow down i would then tell DW to up his energy and activity and put in a really quick rd and unload on him, i honestly don't think Perez would know how to react or respond and my feeling is that DW would get him out of there.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 10 Dec 2011, 15:31
by damianhucker1
From what ive seen Williamson CAN beat Perez , ive not seen a huge amount of him but ive seen enough to see he can win it, if i was a betting man id put the money on perez but its certainly not a clear cut result , could actually be a pretty good fight .

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 10 Dec 2011, 16:00
by loaded_gloves
DAVARRYL WILLIAMSON IS STILL FIGHTING?

What is this, 2004? Good God, TOS needs to hang up his gloves before he is permanently brain damaged. He is in his mid-40s and has been badly KOd in his last two fights.

Anyone who cooperates with a Williamson comeback and feeds him to a hungry young puncher is a sick, blackhearted profiteer.

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 10 Dec 2011, 16:30
by damianhucker1
loaded_gloves wrote:DAVARRYL WILLIAMSON IS STILL FIGHTING?

What is this, 2004? Good God, TOS needs to hang up his gloves before he is permanently brain damaged. He is in his mid-40s and has been badly KOd in his last two fights.

Anyone who cooperates with a Williamson comeback and feeds him to a hungry young puncher is a sick, blackhearted profiteer.
actually hes won 3 of his last 4 , last fight was a tko win vs Michael Marrone

cant argue on the rest though , he is 43 after all and i dont know him well enough to go any further

Re: Mike "The Rebel" Perez

Posted: 10 Dec 2011, 16:52
by loaded_gloves
I have watched in him for years. The 2-2 record is basically irrelevant, the two guys who could fight destroyed him and the two tomato cans he beat.

In his day I would pick TOS to beat Perez, Austin and Meehan handily but he is old and finished. The last two KO losses were horrific.