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Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 11 Dec 2011, 22:40
by crusader
Thx to Tunney for the links
According to the German media this fight is on for Feb 18.
http://www.bild.de/sport/mehr-sport/vit ... .bild.html
Translation:
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.a ... .bild.html
And according to this source, Vitali will fight Haye in June and then likely retire.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 11 Dec 2011, 22:45
by crusader
Does Chisora have a chance of winning?
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 11 Dec 2011, 23:02
by iamasadlittleboy
crusader wrote:Does Chisora have a chance of winning?
No
Funny that Vitali likes to beat up the Brits-
Julius Francis, Herbie Hide, Danny Williams, now Chisora...and then Haye...I think Vitali hates us :(
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 11 Dec 2011, 23:40
by Karl Jade
He certainly does since Lewis caved his face in.
Could be an interesting fight. He won't stop Chisora.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 01:19
by jessi
Hope this fight happens, I think chisora deserves a shot after his last performance !
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 01:25
by Craig14
jessi wrote:Hope this fight happens, I think chisora deserves a shot after his last performance !
Really? Ofcoarse his last fight was a controversial loss but does he deserve a title fight after 2 straight losses? He'll get hammered.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 01:27
by Craig14
I forgot he fought the lithuanian journeyman aswell.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 01:30
by crusader
I thought Chisora convincingly beat Helenius (a top 5/6 hw at the time), so I have no problem with this fight. I don't think extremely poor judging should make Chisora less deserving of a title shot than he would have been if a fair decision had been rendered.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 01:33
by Craig14
crusader wrote:I thought Chisora convincingly beat Helenius (a top 5/6 hw at the time), so I have no problem with this fight. I don't think extremely poor judging should make Chisora less deserving of a title shot than he would have been if a fair decision had been rendered.
Fair enough, I think he won aswell. I just can't get the Chisora who got hammered by Fury out of my head, He was useless that night and it was less than 6 months ago. I also think Helenius is very over-rated.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 01:37
by jessi
yid14 wrote:jessi wrote:Hope this fight happens, I think chisora deserves a shot after his last performance !
Really? Ofcoarse his last fight was a controversial loss but does he deserve a title fight after 2 straight losses? He'll get hammered.
Considering he was mucked about by Vladimir and had two entertaining fights in his last 3, I will stick with my opinion of yes he deserves it. He may well get beat by Vitali but if he puts up a good fight he could still have a decent 2012, fury revenge, helenius revenge and who knows, a fight with possibly povetkin or even wlad !
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 01:39
by Craig14
One things for sure life's never boring in camp Chisora.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 01:44
by jessi
yid14 wrote:One things for sure life's never boring in camp Chisora.
True, I wonder what his got up his sleeve for the weigh-in.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 01:46
by jessi
Also I've never seen anyone as relaxed as del boy is at a weigh-in, It will be interesting to see if his still cool when face to face with Vitali.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 03:53
by Poncey
iamasadlittleboy wrote:crusader wrote:Does Chisora have a chance of winning?
No
Funny that Vitali likes to beat up the Brits-
Julius Francis, Herbie Hide, Danny Williams, now Chisora...and then Haye...I think Vitali hates us :(
If you had to put up with rhino, you would too! 8)
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 04:24
by leforge
Where is Chisora ranked by the WBC? Just looked his not ranked. Fury 11.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 05:16
by Autobarn
good that strong performance in defeat (macklin, del boy and also sergio martinez) can lead to a bigger opportunity on the world stage.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 05:36
by tonyevs
Chisora gets brutalised in this.
As his last two major fights have proved. chisora has a bullies mentality.
Fury bullied Chisora - and Chisora was frankly quite pathetic during the fight. No self confidence and certainly no thinking.
Then against the last fella. He could get his confidence back. The bully had returned!
But against a Klitschko - he may be confident at the press calls as Haye was. But like in the Fury fight, Chisora will soon realise he is in with a guy he can't bully ...and a guy who really wants to fight and KO him.
Chisora goes to pieces again and forgets any strategy ...this time though Vitali will bomb him as Fury could not.
As for Haye next??
Would not expect Haye to not have a warm up first?
Well ... not unless its all about the pay day??
Maybe he will offer Fury the fight?
Good prep ...fights the guy who beat Chisora ....looks good bombing out a guy as tall as Vitali too??
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 05:38
by dondada
leforge wrote:Where is Chisora ranked by the WBC? Just looked his not ranked. Fury 11.
Wait for the new ratings mate...

Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 06:00
by leforge
dondada wrote:leforge wrote:Where is Chisora ranked by the WBC? Just looked his not ranked. Fury 11.
Wait for the new ratings mate...

It's not the wbo though lol vitali wins easily a brutal ko!
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 08:25
by loaded_gloves
If Vitali can't KO a fat 40 year old Shannon Briggs he won't KO Chisora. Will likely outpoint him, but then again can a 40 year old Klitschko maintain Chisora's pace?
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 08:33
by Camcas
Right fight right time??
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 08:45
by leforge
mercman wrote:loaded_gloves wrote:If Vitali can't KO a fat 40 year old Shannon Briggs he won't KO Chisora. Will likely outpoint him, but then again can a 40 year old Klitschko maintain Chisora's pace?
Vitali may not have KOd Briggs but he gave the American a serious pasting. Quite one-sided, many think the ref should have stopped it. I see Vitali giving Chisora a similar beating; Del Boy's meant to have a good chin so he could get a sustained beating. He could get hurt if there's weak refereeing.
Ian Jon Lewis was in charge of Briggs fight! Briggs went to hospital after! Chisora should not be going near this fight.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 08:54
by SAPFO
Chisora wins the first 4 rounds. He has no fear, and is seriously underrated. I would argue that when K2 have gone, Chisora could pick up a belt.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 09:19
by nobby_nobbins
I always fancied Chisora to upset Wladimir. Vitali is a tougher proposition but I still think Chisora will surprise a few people, win or lose. This won't be one of Vitali's cake walks.
Oh and by the way, the idea that Chisora was somehow scared of the inexperienced and relatively light punching Fury but was a confident bully when it came to facing the murderous punching, top ten ranked Helenius in his own backyard, is clearly laughable nonsense. Something clearly went seriously wrong in the preparation for the Fury fight. This was the only fight in Chisora's professional career in which he entered the ring in poor shape and didn't have his normal fast paced, high volume style, so to me it looks like an aberration. Fury was also terrific that night so credit to him too.
Re: Vitali Klitschko vs Dereck Chisora Feb 18th
Posted: 12 Dec 2011, 09:22
by SAPFO
mercman wrote:carlbcfc wrote:Chisora wins the first 4 rounds. He has no fear, and is seriously underrated. I would argue that when K2 have gone, Chisora could pick up a belt.
I doubt it. I can't see Del Boy getting past Vitali's reach. Either way, even if he does OK for the first three or four rounds there's still another eight to go. Eight rounds of pain and suffering eating Vitali's jab and taking plenty of punishment...
You agree then? Chisora will do well for the first 3/4?
Also, let's look a Chisora's losses to date. There is a case for him beating Fury in shape, and there is a case for him beating Helen! Chisora could very well still be undefeated European champ...... but he ain't I know, but you get what I'm saying..