Kell Brook will 100% fight for a world title in 2012
Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 16:24
Agreed, he's a good fighter and could possibly win a title but I don't see him as special.Gavler wrote:Most overated british boxer in my opinion, he has done nothing to deserve a world title shot.
Out of interest, who is the most underrated in your opinion?Gavler wrote:Most overated british boxer in my opinion, he has done nothing to deserve a world title shot.
John Mcdermott. I think he has great talent but never has gotten himself into respectable conditon. Some may laugh at that thoughPugilist-specialist wrote:Out of interest, who is the most underrated in your opinion?Gavler wrote:Most overated british boxer in my opinion, he has done nothing to deserve a world title shot.
I think Sky were trying to counterbalance the ridiculous overhyping they did for Kell's previous fight. Somewhere in between is probably right IMO, he's a promising but still developing fighter who has yet to be tested at world leveljessi wrote:I thought he had a very good performance in America, I think the sky team were being harsh, Latin Americans are a lot tougher then people think, he threw some fantastic combinations, he got caught a couple of times, so what.
There are fighters who've recently had shots of one kind or another who have done less.Gavler wrote:he has done nothing to deserve a world title shot.
It's a good call. Very nice boxer is John and, lest we forget, he beat Fury in almost everyone's eyes other than Big Terry's.Gavler wrote:John Mcdermott. I think he has great talent but never has gotten himself into respectable conditon. Some may laugh at that thoughPugilist-specialist wrote:Out of interest, who is the most underrated in your opinion?Gavler wrote:Most overated british boxer in my opinion, he has done nothing to deserve a world title shot.
McDermott is underrated. The one thing he isn't is under-fedtwenty six wrote:I've heard it all now.
Someone wants to be taken serious and then says Brook over rated McDermott under rated.
I give up.
He beat a guy who was no 6 rated by the ring. I ageree he needs another test like Zaveck or Hatton perhaps next then world title shot.Least he being promoted better get much more exposure than before. The towel arrived twice cheers!Glyn Leach wrote:I think Sky were trying to counterbalance the ridiculous overhyping they did for Kell's previous fight. Somewhere in between is probably right IMO, he's a promising but still developing fighter who has yet to be tested at world leveljessi wrote:I thought he had a very good performance in America, I think the sky team were being harsh, Latin Americans are a lot tougher then people think, he threw some fantastic combinations, he got caught a couple of times, so what.
Can you please read my post properly i said he is underrated i have not said he is any world beater....So dont comment unless you have a good reaseon.twenty six wrote:I've heard it all now.
Someone wants to be taken serious and then says Brook over rated McDermott under rated.
I give up.
McDermott has good skills but conditioning, fitness, diet, discipline and desire are massive parts of boxing. Every gym has talented kids who never fulfill their potential.Gavler wrote:John Mcdermott. I think he has great talent but never has gotten himself into respectable conditon. Some may laugh at that thoughPugilist-specialist wrote:Out of interest, who is the most underrated in your opinion?Gavler wrote:Most overated british boxer in my opinion, he has done nothing to deserve a world title shot.
If brook signed for Top Rank he could beat Clottey. Otherwise Clottey banjos himG0mez wrote:Joshua Clottey would be good move.
Jesus! Randall Bailey! He must be older than God's dog.Old bones Ian wrote:They say the IBF is the likely route. Brook is rated No5 by them, with 3 boxers from the USA in front of him. I'd be surprised to see him jump that queue. Mike Jones, Randall Bailey and Carson Jones would all have a better chance as they have names known in the US.
Vyacheslv Senchenko is the WBA champ, and he is backed by Union Boxing Promotion. Who have bid big purses in the past, i mean they bid 1.1 million for a fight against Brad Solomon, the nearest bid was $900,000 less. So that shows that whatever Hearn thinks he has, they have more. I can't see Hearns having the finances to temp him out of the Ukraine, and i can't see Brook tempted to go there for the fight.
WBC Mayweather, no chance of him fighting Brook. He will only be out once in 2012 i think.
WBO Pacman, i can't see it. But if the Mayweather fight doesn't happen them maybe Brook could get a shout in. He's ranked No2 with them.
Think Hatton fight might happen if not Zavcek former world champion be good.King Geedorah wrote:Intelligent, logical reasoning so no way it will happen like that. Kell will probably have to win 5 final eliminators and wait for umpteen ‘name’ lightweights/light-welters to get their cracks before he even gets a sniff. 2012 is going to be crucial for Kell as he is likely to get 3-4 fights and they need to be key ones. I’d love to see him versus Matthew Hatton as Matt’s got a name on the world stage, is a former world title challenger and former EBU titlist. People sneer when he is mentioned but he is a very viable test for Kell.Old bones Ian wrote:They say the IBF is the likely route. Brook is rated No5 by them, with 3 boxers from the USA in front of him. I'd be surprised to see him jump that queue. Mike Jones, Randall Bailey and Carson Jones would all have a better chance as they have names known in the US.
Vyacheslv Senchenko is the WBA champ, and he is backed by Union Boxing Promotion. Who have bid big purses in the past, i mean they bid 1.1 million for a fight against Brad Solomon, the nearest bid was $900,000 less. So that shows that whatever Hearn thinks he has, they have more. I can't see Hearns having the finances to temp him out of the Ukraine, and i can't see Brook tempted to go there for the fight.
WBC Mayweather, no chance of him fighting Brook. He will only be out once in 2012 i think.
WBO Pacman, i can't see it. But if the Mayweather fight doesn't happen them maybe Brook could get a shout in. He's ranked No2 with them.
It would be awesome if they were to get someone like Malignaggi over.
In many ways it is a shame that the Mafia no longer control the sport, at least in those days you knew who to bung and it lead to a title crack. Too many fighters stagnate or wither on the vine simply because the usual suspects get title shot after title shot. There’s too much deadwood at the higher levels.
Pacman is WBO 'Super Champion' the guy ranked above Kell Brook Mike Jones just won and IBF eliminator so I would assume he gets the shot at Berto. Might we see Brook fighting for the WBO interim? Hopefully notOld bones Ian wrote:WBO Pacman, i can't see it. But if the Mayweather fight doesn't happen them maybe Brook could get a shout in. He's ranked No2 with them.
Good point, i didn't know the WBO had gone down the 'super champion' route as well.J-C wrote:Pacman is WBO 'Super Champion' the guy ranked above Kell Brook Mike Jones just won and IBF eliminator so I would assume he gets the shot at Berto. Might we see Brook fighting for the WBO interim? Hopefully notOld bones Ian wrote:WBO Pacman, i can't see it. But if the Mayweather fight doesn't happen them maybe Brook could get a shout in. He's ranked No2 with them.
In an ideal world, maybe. But this is boxing in 2011, where there are often 3 WBA "world" title holders in a single weight division. By today's standards he'll soon be known as the Sheffield Sam Langford.Gavler wrote:Can you please read my post properly i said he is underrated i have not said he is any world beater....So dont comment unless you have a good reaseon.twenty six wrote:I've heard it all now.
Someone wants to be taken serious and then says Brook over rated McDermott under rated.
I give up.
The reason i say he is overated is because his best oppenent is ndou who lets face it was past his best...so saying that he isnt desreving of a world title shot