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Floyd Patterson

Posted: 22 Dec 2011, 22:20
by Bobby A.
Did anyone here ever meet Patterson? He always came across as a real class act and gentleman.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 22 Dec 2011, 23:11
by yancey
Bobby A. wrote:Did anyone here ever meet Patterson? He always came across as a real class act and gentleman.

Never met him, but certainly agree with the perception you had of him.

In a way, he was too gentlemanly. I think he got jobbed against Ellis in '68 and the decision in the WBA tournament fight with Quarry in '67 was very debatable. Floyd seemed to shrug his shoulders and accept the decisions, but I wish he would have spoken up for himself more.

Take a look at the genuine concern that Floyd had for his knockout victims. Study the film when Patterson knocked out Ingo to reclaim the title. After going to the neutral corner and waiting for the count to finish, Floyd gave himself a moment of congratulation, but then promptly went over to check on Ingo's condition. If that had been Ali in that situation, he would have been running all over the ring making an ass of himself, condition of opponent be damned.

Patterson is my second favorite fighter of all time. A very sympathetic character, imo.

I loved his on the toes, probing, peek-a-boo style, followed by that leaping left hook or super fast combinations when he found an opening.

The Cooper fight in '66 is my favorite Patterson fight. He finished his man very well and cleanly that night, something Ali couldn't do in two tries.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 22 Dec 2011, 23:15
by raylawpc
Bobby A. wrote:Did anyone here ever meet Patterson? He always came across as a real class act and gentleman.
I knew someone who knew him. He said Floyd Patterson's private persona was the same as his public persona.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 22 Dec 2011, 23:28
by yancey
Ray, aren't you a West Coast guy and go back to the 60's?

Do you remember those two Quarry-Patterson fights in '67 well?

Both very, very close decisions. Didn't see the first fight, to my knowledge it wasn't televised.

I watched the second fight on ABC's WWOS as a kid in Louisiana and remember Quarry starting well, knocking down Floyd and building up a lead, but Patterson finishing very strongly. I was very disappointed that Patterson didn't win that one.

Never could understand that California point type scoring system. I always thought the NY State round scoring system was more understandable.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 00:30
by Giancarlo
yancey wrote:If that had been Ali in that situation, he would have been running all over the ring making an ass of himself, condition of opponent be damned.

The Cooper fight in '66 is my favorite Patterson fight. He finished his man very well and cleanly that night, something Ali couldn't do in two tries.

Nancy, you seem obsessed with Ali.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 00:34
by raylawpc
yancey wrote:Ray, aren't you a West Coast guy?
Nope.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 03:23
by Goodnight, Irene
Giancarlo wrote:
yancey wrote:If that had been Ali in that situation, he would have been running all over the ring making an ass of himself, condition of opponent be damned.

The Cooper fight in '66 is my favorite Patterson fight. He finished his man very well and cleanly that night, something Ali couldn't do in two tries.

Nancy, you seem obsessed with Ali.
This from the guy who wanted to fight me in the street for being critical of Ali :DD

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 05:13
by Giancarlo
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
Giancarlo wrote:
yancey wrote:If that had been Ali in that situation, he would have been running all over the ring making an ass of himself, condition of opponent be damned.

The Cooper fight in '66 is my favorite Patterson fight. He finished his man very well and cleanly that night, something Ali couldn't do in two tries.

Nancy, you seem obsessed with Ali.
This from the guy who wanted to fight me in the street for being critical of Ali :DD

That was before I found out about the bizarre gardening accident that left you in a wheelchair, Irene.

Still, even shut-in cripples like you and Nancy can talk tough on the internet.

:D

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 05:18
by Giancarlo
raylawpc wrote:
yancey wrote:Ray, aren't you a West Coast guy?
Nope.

Good idea Tom.

Back away from him and try not to make eye contact.

He's not hauling a full load.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 15:08
by raylawpc
Giancarlo wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
yancey wrote:Ray, aren't you a West Coast guy?
Nope.

Good idea Tom.

Back away from him and try not to make eye contact.

He's not hauling a full load.
Speaking of hauling a full load . . . how many times have you changed your identity on this board? :lol:

Yancey is a good guy, and so is Irene. Heck, I even enjoy your posts.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 19:09
by Bobby A.
I've often wondered if Patterson ever sparred with an amateur Mike Tyson in the early 80's because I know that Floyd sparred up until 1994 with amateurs.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 20:33
by Giancarlo
raylawpc wrote:
Giancarlo wrote:
raylawpc wrote: Nope.

Good idea Tom.

Back away from him and try not to make eye contact.

He's not hauling a full load.
Speaking of hauling a full load . . . how many times have you changed your identity on this board? :lol:

Yancey is a good guy, and so is Irene. Heck, I even enjoy your posts.
Aw, shucks. Merry Christmas, Tom. All the best for 2012.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 22:29
by raylawpc
Giancarlo wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
Giancarlo wrote:
Good idea Tom.

Back away from him and try not to make eye contact.

He's not hauling a full load.
Speaking of hauling a full load . . . how many times have you changed your identity on this board? :lol:

Yancey is a good guy, and so is Irene. Heck, I even enjoy your posts.
Aw, shucks. Merry Christmas, Tom. All the best for 2012.
Same to you Collins! :TU:

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 23 Dec 2011, 23:29
by Goodnight, Irene
Giancarly/Darling/Collie (am I missing any?) you realise youve essentially become a Granberry knock-off, dont you? :DD

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 01:56
by iamasadlittleboy
I wasn't born until after he hung them up...but he always seems a really class guy. Boxing could do with more Floyd Patterson's

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 01:57
by raylawpc
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Giancarly/Darling/Collie (am I missing any?) you realise youve essentially become a Granberry knock-off, dont you? :DD
Irene, you do realize this :DD means "green with envy" don't you? :lol:

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 03:23
by Giancarlo
raylawpc wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Giancarly/Darling/Collie (am I missing any?) you realise youve essentially become a Granberry knock-off, dont you? :DD
Irene, you do realize this :DD means "green with envy" don't you? :lol:

A typical Irene moment.

I wonder, does she realise she has essentially become a Decagon knock-off.

Apart from her being in a wheelchair, of course.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 03:30
by Goodnight, Irene
raylawpc wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Giancarly/Darling/Collie (am I missing any?) you realise youve essentially become a Granberry knock-off, dont you? :DD
Irene, you do realize this :DD means "green with envy" don't you? :lol:
It doesnt. Unless you wear a huge, smart ass grin when you're green with envy, or you have Pseudo Bulba Affect, the emoticon is cheeky, not envious.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 03:32
by Goodnight, Irene
Giancarlo wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Giancarly/Darling/Collie (am I missing any?) you realise youve essentially become a Granberry knock-off, dont you? :DD
Irene, you do realize this :DD means "green with envy" don't you? :lol:

A typical Irene moment.

I wonder, does she realise she has essentially become a Decagon knock-off.

Apart from her being in a wheelchair, of course.
My, my, what a vivid imagination you sport, my darling GianCollie.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 09:12
by yancey
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Giancarly/Darling/Collie (am I missing any?) you realise youve essentially become a Granberry knock-off, dont you? :DD
A mighty cheap knock-off, one might add.

He doesn't belong in the same time zone with Granberry.

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 11:53
by raylawpc
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
raylawpc wrote:
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Giancarly/Darling/Collie (am I missing any?) you realise youve essentially become a Granberry knock-off, dont you? :DD
Irene, you do realize this :DD means "green with envy" don't you? :lol:
It doesnt. Unless you wear a huge, smart ass grin when you're green with envy, or you have Pseudo Bulba Affect, the emoticon is cheeky, not envious.
Suit yourself. :TU: Merry Christmas!

Re: Floyd Patterson

Posted: 24 Dec 2011, 12:15
by Goodnight, Irene
Indeed it will be (for once).

Wishing you the same.