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Kell opponent

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 14:15
by danboxer1
Anybody got any idea on kells next opponent.i thought they were announcing it on 9th jan ???

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 15:46
by xrgcx
Wednesday at 1pm I think the announcement.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 09 Jan 2012, 16:01
by danboxer1
[quote="xrgcx"]Wednesday at 1pm I think the announcement.[/quote]
Nice one

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 09:46
by -KOKid-
Well, there was talk of Brook fighting Mike Jones for a while.
That would be a good fight, but hardly a surprise since people already have been talking about it since, I think as far back as when Jones fought Jesus Soto-Karass of the Pacquiao-Margarito undercard in November 2010.

If not Jones, I wouldn't be surprised to see Zab Judah or Paulie Malignaggi revealed as the mystery opponent.
Could be someone from 140 as well though, like Humberto Soto or Joan Guzman, whom is always having trouble making the weight and could probably do with a payday.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 09:58
by xrgcx
Don't be suprised if its Hatton

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 10:29
by danboxer1
I will be surprised if its hatton,can't see him taking it.hope it is though

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 10:39
by xrgcx
I think it will be Matthew. He's not the best boxer in the planet but a hardy lad who I can't see Brook stopping. But Brook wins a wide UD. Won't be Jones, or Soto.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 10:54
by Camcas
It is Matt Hatton!

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 11:21
by danboxer1
Nothing against hatton he's a very good fighter who's come on leaps and bounds but I reckon Kell stops him within 8 rounds.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 11:28
by Captain Hook
It's Hatton, at least everyone says it is......yet today we received a press release full of quotes from his opponent, without them naming who the opponent is!! Ludicrous....never seen that before.

BROOK’S OPPONENT VOWS TO CRASH KELL’S SHEFFIELD PARTY
Rival plans to down Kell at March 17 Steel City showdown
Kell Brook’s opponent for their huge Sheffield showdown on March 17 has warned Brook that he is coming to spoil the party.
“It's a massive fight. Kell has been getting a lot of exposure from Sky and a lot of boxing experts rate him highly,” said the mystery man. “He is a big hit in Sheffield but going and fighting someone on away turf doesn't bother me, I feel very confident that I can travel to Sheffield and beat him on his home patch."

There's lots more of it too

"Mystery man"

All a bit silly if you ask me

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 11:41
by -KOKid-
Captain Hook wrote:It's Hatton, at least everyone says it is......yet today we received a press release full of quotes from his opponent, without them naming who the opponent is!! Ludicrous....never seen that before.

BROOK’S OPPONENT VOWS TO CRASH KELL’S SHEFFIELD PARTY
Rival plans to down Kell at March 17 Steel City showdown
Kell Brook’s opponent for their huge Sheffield showdown on March 17 has warned Brook that he is coming to spoil the party.
“It's a massive fight. Kell has been getting a lot of exposure from Sky and a lot of boxing experts rate him highly,” said the mystery man. “He is a big hit in Sheffield but going and fighting someone on away turf doesn't bother me, I feel very confident that I can travel to Sheffield and beat him on his home patch."

There's lots more of it too

"Mystery man"

All a bit silly if you ask me

Don't hink anyone besides a promoter would call Brook vs. M. Hatton a "massive fight" :lol:
It won't mean much outside the UK.

Then again, Eddie Hearn is a promoter.
I just didn't think he was so advanced in the art of hyperbole yet.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 12:29
by exittored
-KOKid- wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:It's Hatton, at least everyone says it is......yet today we received a press release full of quotes from his opponent, without them naming who the opponent is!! Ludicrous....never seen that before.

BROOK’S OPPONENT VOWS TO CRASH KELL’S SHEFFIELD PARTY
Rival plans to down Kell at March 17 Steel City showdown
Kell Brook’s opponent for their huge Sheffield showdown on March 17 has warned Brook that he is coming to spoil the party.
“It's a massive fight. Kell has been getting a lot of exposure from Sky and a lot of boxing experts rate him highly,” said the mystery man. “He is a big hit in Sheffield but going and fighting someone on away turf doesn't bother me, I feel very confident that I can travel to Sheffield and beat him on his home patch."

There's lots more of it too

"Mystery man"

All a bit silly if you ask me

Don't hink anyone besides a promoter would call Brook vs. M. Hatton a "massive fight" :lol:
It won't mean much outside the UK.

Then again, Eddie Hearn is a promoter.
I just didn't think he was so advanced in the art of hyperbole yet.
Brook is the most over-rated british boxer in recent memory, don't get me wrong he has good skills and would probably beat anyone outside the top 10 welterweight division but i don't see anything special at all about him in any way and he has never beaten a world class opponent and has been very carefully matched. Matthew Hatton is another one of those average guys who is made to measure for him to look good against.

When is Kell actually going to step up and face a dangerous guy? someone like Mike Jones, Brad Solomon, Carson Jones or Selcuk Aydin.

I honestly can't wait till he gets matched with a Top 10 guy and gets exposed for the hype job he is.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 12:48
by mbudgen
exittored wrote:
-KOKid- wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:It's Hatton, at least everyone says it is......yet today we received a press release full of quotes from his opponent, without them naming who the opponent is!! Ludicrous....never seen that before.

BROOK’S OPPONENT VOWS TO CRASH KELL’S SHEFFIELD PARTY
Rival plans to down Kell at March 17 Steel City showdown
Kell Brook’s opponent for their huge Sheffield showdown on March 17 has warned Brook that he is coming to spoil the party.
“It's a massive fight. Kell has been getting a lot of exposure from Sky and a lot of boxing experts rate him highly,” said the mystery man. “He is a big hit in Sheffield but going and fighting someone on away turf doesn't bother me, I feel very confident that I can travel to Sheffield and beat him on his home patch."

There's lots more of it too

"Mystery man"

All a bit silly if you ask me

Don't hink anyone besides a promoter would call Brook vs. M. Hatton a "massive fight" :lol:
It won't mean much outside the UK.

Then again, Eddie Hearn is a promoter.
I just didn't think he was so advanced in the art of hyperbole yet.
Brook is the most over-rated british boxer in recent memory, don't get me wrong he has good skills and would probably beat anyone outside the top 10 welterweight division but i don't see anything special at all about him in any way and he has never beaten a world class opponent and has been very carefully matched. Matthew Hatton is another one of those average guys who is made to measure for him to look good against.

When is Kell actually going to step up and face a dangerous guy? someone like Mike Jones, Brad Solomon, Carson Jones or Selcuk Aydin.

I honestly can't wait till he gets matched with a Top 10 guy and gets exposed for the hype job he is.
My sentiments exactly at the top level Kell will be exposed and made to look very silly. It seems to happen with every Matchroom fighter that wen it comes to beating the best they show they don't have enough in the locker.

No disrespect to Eddie Hearn but it's because he matches them against opponents that make them look a lot better than they actually are.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 12:57
by exittored
mbudgen wrote:
exittored wrote:
-KOKid- wrote:
Don't hink anyone besides a promoter would call Brook vs. M. Hatton a "massive fight" :lol:
It won't mean much outside the UK.

Then again, Eddie Hearn is a promoter.
I just didn't think he was so advanced in the art of hyperbole yet.
Brook is the most over-rated british boxer in recent memory, don't get me wrong he has good skills and would probably beat anyone outside the top 10 welterweight division but i don't see anything special at all about him in any way and he has never beaten a world class opponent and has been very carefully matched. Matthew Hatton is another one of those average guys who is made to measure for him to look good against.

When is Kell actually going to step up and face a dangerous guy? someone like Mike Jones, Brad Solomon, Carson Jones or Selcuk Aydin.

I honestly can't wait till he gets matched with a Top 10 guy and gets exposed for the hype job he is.
My sentiments exactly at the top level Kell will be exposed and made to look very silly. It seems to happen with every Matchroom fighter that wen it comes to beating the best they show they don't have enough in the locker.

No disrespect to Eddie Hearn but it's because he matches them against opponents that make them look a lot better than they actually are.
Just to add that if you include Hatton, Kells last 4 opponents have a combined loss record of 29 losses which just tells you everything.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 14:48
by Camcas
exittored wrote:
mbudgen wrote:
exittored wrote: Brook is the most over-rated british boxer in recent memory, don't get me wrong he has good skills and would probably beat anyone outside the top 10 welterweight division but i don't see anything special at all about him in any way and he has never beaten a world class opponent and has been very carefully matched. Matthew Hatton is another one of those average guys who is made to measure for him to look good against.

When is Kell actually going to step up and face a dangerous guy? someone like Mike Jones, Brad Solomon, Carson Jones or Selcuk Aydin.

I honestly can't wait till he gets matched with a Top 10 guy and gets exposed for the hype job he is.
My sentiments exactly at the top level Kell will be exposed and made to look very silly. It seems to happen with every Matchroom fighter that wen it comes to beating the best they show they don't have enough in the locker.

No disrespect to Eddie Hearn but it's because he matches them against opponents that make them look a lot better than they actually are.
Just to add that if you include Hatton, Kells last 4 opponents have a combined loss record of 29 losses which just tells you everything.
Naive to look at it that way though, Jackiewcz's losses were all early in his career and he was on a very good run before Kell. N'dou has been matched tough and fought a lot of world class fighters being on the way of some debatable decisions in the process. Galarza was just a keep busy fight which you can't really read too much into and Hatton is a good top 20 WW although i was hoping for a better opponent it will sell well and get Kell more vital exposure. What better fight is it possible for Kell to get at the moment?

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 15:47
by exittored
Camcas wrote:
exittored wrote:Just to add that if you include Hatton, Kells last 4 opponents have a combined loss record of 29 losses which just tells you everything.
Naive to look at it that way though, Jackiewcz's losses were all early in his career and he was on a very good run before Kell. N'dou has been matched tough and fought a lot of world class fighters being on the way of some debatable decisions in the process. Galarza was just a keep busy fight which you can't really read too much into and Hatton is a good top 20 WW although i was hoping for a better opponent it will sell well and get Kell more vital exposure. What better fight is it possible for Kell to get at the moment?
I just added that last bit on to my main argument so no it wasn't naive as i know N'dou and Jackiewcz well and they're both average boxers now at this stage of their career and pick up losses because they're beatable and in Jacks case because he fights bums now.

It's Kells camp thats always telling us what a special talent he is so step up and actually fight someone good instead of another bum in Hatton.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 16:24
by danfoster
exittored wrote:
-KOKid- wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:It's Hatton, at least everyone says it is......yet today we received a press release full of quotes from his opponent, without them naming who the opponent is!! Ludicrous....never seen that before.

BROOK’S OPPONENT VOWS TO CRASH KELL’S SHEFFIELD PARTY
Rival plans to down Kell at March 17 Steel City showdown
Kell Brook’s opponent for their huge Sheffield showdown on March 17 has warned Brook that he is coming to spoil the party.
“It's a massive fight. Kell has been getting a lot of exposure from Sky and a lot of boxing experts rate him highly,” said the mystery man. “He is a big hit in Sheffield but going and fighting someone on away turf doesn't bother me, I feel very confident that I can travel to Sheffield and beat him on his home patch."

There's lots more of it too

"Mystery man"

All a bit silly if you ask me

Don't hink anyone besides a promoter would call Brook vs. M. Hatton a "massive fight" :lol:
It won't mean much outside the UK.

Then again, Eddie Hearn is a promoter.
I just didn't think he was so advanced in the art of hyperbole yet.
Brook is the most over-rated british boxer in recent memory, don't get me wrong he has good skills and would probably beat anyone outside the top 10 welterweight division but i don't see anything special at all about him in any way and he has never beaten a world class opponent and has been very carefully matched. Matthew Hatton is another one of those average guys who is made to measure for him to look good against.

When is Kell actually going to step up and face a dangerous guy? someone like Mike Jones, Brad Solomon, Carson Jones or Selcuk Aydin.

I honestly can't wait till he gets matched with a Top 10 guy and gets exposed for the hype job he is.
Yeah, and when he does, will he make a complete fool of himself by crying like a toddler til he gets what he wants like your man Amir?

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 16:38
by danfoster
exittored wrote:
mbudgen wrote:
exittored wrote: Brook is the most over-rated british boxer in recent memory, don't get me wrong he has good skills and would probably beat anyone outside the top 10 welterweight division but i don't see anything special at all about him in any way and he has never beaten a world class opponent and has been very carefully matched. Matthew Hatton is another one of those average guys who is made to measure for him to look good against.

When is Kell actually going to step up and face a dangerous guy? someone like Mike Jones, Brad Solomon, Carson Jones or Selcuk Aydin.

I honestly can't wait till he gets matched with a Top 10 guy and gets exposed for the hype job he is.
My sentiments exactly at the top level Kell will be exposed and made to look very silly. It seems to happen with every Matchroom fighter that wen it comes to beating the best they show they don't have enough in the locker.

No disrespect to Eddie Hearn but it's because he matches them against opponents that make them look a lot better than they actually are.
Just to add that if you include Hatton, Kells last 4 opponents have a combined loss record of 29 losses which just tells you everything.
So on the one hand you're criticising paper records for being the product of hype and careful matchmaking - and then in the next breath you point out defeats on opponents records! Defeats on a record don't make you a bad fighter - they don't necessaril mean anything - Sugar Ray Robinson lost 19 times, Julio Cesar Chavez lost six times, De La Hoya lost six times, Muhammad Ali lost five times.

For the record, the combined record of Kell's last three opponents plus Matt Hatton is 135 - 28 - 2 (by my maths). Not too bad considering Kell is working his way up the rankings as a promising contender.

No-one is saying that Kell is fighting the greatest opponents in the world but the level he is being matched at now is far higher than 12 months ago and the quality is stepping up at an appropriate rate (other than US job which was always billed as a showcase).

I don't know why certain people (normally Amir's fans) find it necessary to slag him off. He doesn' act the twat, he's a nice lad and a good prospect. I can't help feeling that Amir's fans are basically just scared Kell will chin him and so are just hoping against hope that he gets beat before the heat is really on Amir to take the fight.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 17:08
by exittored
danfoster wrote:
exittored wrote:
-KOKid- wrote:
Don't hink anyone besides a promoter would call Brook vs. M. Hatton a "massive fight" :lol:
It won't mean much outside the UK.

Then again, Eddie Hearn is a promoter.
I just didn't think he was so advanced in the art of hyperbole yet.
Brook is the most over-rated british boxer in recent memory, don't get me wrong he has good skills and would probably beat anyone outside the top 10 welterweight division but i don't see anything special at all about him in any way and he has never beaten a world class opponent and has been very carefully matched. Matthew Hatton is another one of those average guys who is made to measure for him to look good against.

When is Kell actually going to step up and face a dangerous guy? someone like Mike Jones, Brad Solomon, Carson Jones or Selcuk Aydin.

I honestly can't wait till he gets matched with a Top 10 guy and gets exposed for the hype job he is.
Yeah, and when he does, will he make a complete fool of himself by crying like a toddler til he gets what he wants like your man Amir?
i think you mean a different Amir that i'm connected to, I don't have any connection to Amir Khan or am particulary a fan but Kell dosen't belong in the same sentence as him till he actually achieves something more then beating bums.

Kell is nothing but a hype job, it's actually sad that him and Eddie Munster have convinced people he is by feeding the public bum after bum for him to fight.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 17:59
by danfoster
exittored wrote:
danfoster wrote:
exittored wrote: Brook is the most over-rated british boxer in recent memory, don't get me wrong he has good skills and would probably beat anyone outside the top 10 welterweight division but i don't see anything special at all about him in any way and he has never beaten a world class opponent and has been very carefully matched. Matthew Hatton is another one of those average guys who is made to measure for him to look good against.

When is Kell actually going to step up and face a dangerous guy? someone like Mike Jones, Brad Solomon, Carson Jones or Selcuk Aydin.

I honestly can't wait till he gets matched with a Top 10 guy and gets exposed for the hype job he is.
Yeah, and when he does, will he make a complete fool of himself by crying like a toddler til he gets what he wants like your man Amir?
i think you mean a different Amir that i'm connected to, I don't have any connection to Amir Khan or am particulary a fan but Kell dosen't belong in the same sentence as him till he actually achieves something more then beating bums.

Kell is nothing but a hype job, it's actually sad that him and Eddie Munster have convinced people he is by feeding the public bum after bum for him to fight.
Go on then, explain what it is that you've seen that makes convinced he' so poor. Seriously, make some valid comments regarding his weaknesses - be interesting to see what you think

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 10 Jan 2012, 20:14
by exittored
danfoster wrote:Go on then, explain what it is that you've seen that makes convinced he' so poor. Seriously, make some valid comments regarding his weaknesses - be interesting to see what you think
I never said he was poor, infact i stated he has good skills and would probably beat anyone outside the Top 10 welterweight division...he just isn't outstanding or has that wow factor in any department whether it be defence, offence, hand or foot speed. I just don't like fighters or promoters telling me how special they are all the time and then continue to fight another inferior fighter...when is he going to step up and fight someone like Mike Jones especially as Bob Arum has already said he'd accept the fight instantly.

As for his next fight being called 'Homecoming', is Eddie hearn for fornicating real? all he did was fight some shitty boxer on some undercard in America that wasn't even aired on Showtime and was probably away for a week at most...more fecking over the top stupid hype that is insulting and ridiculous.

Re: Kell opponent

Posted: 11 Jan 2012, 04:27
by Pugilist-specialist
exittored wrote:Brook is the most over-rated british boxer in recent memory, don't get me wrong he has good skills and would probably beat anyone outside the top 10 welterweight division but i don't see anything special at all about him in any way and he has never beaten a world class opponent and has been very carefully matched. Matthew Hatton is another one of those average guys who is made to measure for him to look good against.

When is Kell actually going to step up and face a dangerous guy? someone like Mike Jones, Brad Solomon, Carson Jones or Selcuk Aydin.

I honestly can't wait till he gets matched with a Top 10 guy and gets exposed for the hype job he is.
You can guarantee that on every Kell Brook thread, exittored will appear singing his same old song. At least he has refrained from bringing Kell's mother into it this time. :shame:

Who is exittored's most underrated British boxer in recent memory?