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would it be a candidate for possibly the worst bout or match up in 100 years????!!!!
or is there one that could even surpass that

Well you're pitting a pretty disciplined and focused (for the most part) fighter against a possibly equally talented but lacking focus, example of a fighter.

I'd always go with the one that took the game seriously.

The Aussie Joe who outpointed Tillis, Bey and Page and lost to Bruno would outmuscle and dominate the best Audley Harrison, and win 9 or even 10 of 10 rounds against him.

An in shape Bugner cannot lose this match. He had a very solid chin and a good defence and stamina, and be all over Harrison for the whole fight. Bugner wins by UD

joe beats audley every night, every day, every possible way

a very worthy european champ

BoxBuzz wrote:Well you're pitting a pretty disciplined and focused (for the most part) fighter against a possibly equally talented but lacking focus, example of a fighter.

I'd always go with the one that took the game seriously.

bugner was light years ahead of harrison in talent and anything else.
No way can any1 have them in same bracket.easy win for bugner ko too

Bugner all day the guy was very underated by the British people as a fighter.

mugabi wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:Well you're pitting a pretty disciplined and focused (for the most part) fighter against a possibly equally talented but lacking focus, example of a fighter.

I'd always go with the one that took the game seriously.

bugner was light years ahead of harrison in talent and anything else.
No way can any1 have them in same bracket.easy win for bugner ko too

I chose understatement, and do not disagree with your assessment.
I thought/think of Audley as very very lazy IF very very talented.

flatnoseflynn wrote:Bugner all day the guy was very underated by the British people as a fighter.

That's cuz you're not supposed to disrespect 'enry's Hammer.

BoxBuzz wrote:

flatnoseflynn wrote:Bugner all day the guy was very underated by the British people as a fighter.

That's cuz you're not supposed to disrespect 'enry's Hammer.

BoxBuzz wrote:

mugabi wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:Well you're pitting a pretty disciplined and focused (for the most part) fighter against a possibly equally talented but lacking focus, example of a fighter.

I'd always go with the one that took the game seriously.

bugner was light years ahead of harrison in talent and anything else.
No way can any1 have them in same bracket.easy win for bugner ko too

I chose understatement, and do not disagree with your assessment.
I thought/think of Audley as very very lazy IF very very talented.

My stating Bugner is light years ahead of Fraudley in talent is the understatement here.....your even dreaming of comparing Harrison to Bugner in talent or calling A farce "very very talented" is the most foolish thing i have read on these pages since I read Adamek and Jack dempsey would be a close matchup.
The consensus here is people agree with me.
What talent did Harrison have as a pro apart from his laziness and ability to find excuses?
Bugner was actually considered a huge waste over here in the UK in the seventies and early eighties thats why he often fled to america and eventually australia.
He though could box,had a good jab, solid chin and heart, and could move and fight fifteen rounds in the heat of kuala Lumpur . He was willing to take on the best....I never saw Harrison in all his fights ever show the talent or ability of a Bugner even the old aussie joe bugner.

mugabi, you have fallen into my trap......"talent" means many things....lol, you seem to recognize the very talent of which I speak.

However I do think that Audley showed some potential.....sad it was never honed. Just another story of a potential "way" with no "will".

The history of boxing is littered with such stories.

Bugner every day of the week. Bugner was British champion in his early 20's beating Henry Cooper. What was Fraudley doing at that age? He was in his 30's when he won gold in Sydney.

Bugner fought hard against Joe Frazier. Could you picture the fear in Audley's crazy eyes if Frazier was marching him down?

Ketchel wrote:Bugner every day of the week. Bugner was British champion in his early 20's beating Henry Cooper. What was Fraudley doing at that age? He was in his 30's when he won gold in Sydney.

Bugner fought hard against Joe Frazier. Could you picture the fear in Audley's crazy eyes if Frazier was marching him down?

I thought he was 28 when he won olympics

flatnoseflynn wrote:

Ketchel wrote:Bugner every day of the week. Bugner was British champion in his early 20's beating Henry Cooper. What was Fraudley doing at that age? He was in his 30's when he won gold in Sydney.

Bugner fought hard against Joe Frazier. Could you picture the fear in Audley's crazy eyes if Frazier was marching him down?

I thought he was 28 when he won olympics

You get my point though? By 28 years old Bugner had fought Cooper, Blin x 2, Bodell x 2, Ali x 2, Frazier, Mac Foster, Jimmy Ellis & Lyle. He fought Ali and then Frazier 5 months later when he was 22/23! What would make anyone think that Audley could compete with Bugner?

BoxBuzz wrote:mugabi, you have fallen into my trap......"talent" means many things....lol, you seem to recognize the very talent of which I speak.

However I do think that Audley showed some potential.....sad it was never honed. Just another story of a potential "way" with no "will".

The history of boxing is littered with such stories.

Harrison and talent are not easy bedfellows.
Lets analyse it. Was Harrison a great athlete? No a lumbering specimin.
Speed? No he pawed his jabs and his left hook should have had a postage stamp on it.
Power- sure he slapped around some bums and he took out sprott with one punch , but thats about it, the williams he beat had trouble walking straight.
Stamina- always out of shape fought at a poor pace.
Skills- an awkward southpaw and thats it....this guys idea of a combo was a meal deal at Burger King.
....he could talk that i give him... he's also one of the poorest olympic gold medalists ever.... whatever "trap" you had, its all in your mind

mugabi wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:mugabi, you have fallen into my trap......"talent" means many things....lol, you seem to recognize the very talent of which I speak.

However I do think that Audley showed some potential.....sad it was never honed. Just another story of a potential "way" with no "will".

The history of boxing is littered with such stories.

Harrison and talent are not easy bedfellows.
Lets analyse it. Was Harrison a great athlete? No a lumbering specimin.
Speed? No he pawed his jabs and his left hook should have had a postage stamp on it.
Power- sure he slapped around some bums and he took out sprott with one punch , but thats about it, the williams he beat had trouble walking straight.
Stamina- always out of shape fought at a poor pace.
Skills- an awkward southpaw and thats it....this guys idea of a combo was a meal deal at Burger King.
....he could talk that i give him... he's also one of the poorest olympic gold medalists ever.... whatever "trap" you had, its all in your mind

Well my mind has plenty of room....lol.

It feels good to be set straight by something/someone OTHER than the akashik record for a change!

I've properly adjusted my thinking, and now will continue forward with enhanced poise and confidence based on your valuable input sir!

Though we were once on the same page, we are now hovering in the vicinity of the same paragraph.

BoxBuzz wrote:

mugabi wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:mugabi, you have fallen into my trap......"talent" means many things....lol, you seem to recognize the very talent of which I speak.

However I do think that Audley showed some potential.....sad it was never honed. Just another story of a potential "way" with no "will".

The history of boxing is littered with such stories.

Harrison and talent are not easy bedfellows.
Lets analyse it. Was Harrison a great athlete? No a lumbering specimin.
Speed? No he pawed his jabs and his left hook should have had a postage stamp on it.
Power- sure he slapped around some bums and he took out sprott with one punch , but thats about it, the williams he beat had trouble walking straight.
Stamina- always out of shape fought at a poor pace.
Skills- an awkward southpaw and thats it....this guys idea of a combo was a meal deal at Burger King.
....he could talk that i give him... he's also one of the poorest olympic gold medalists ever.... whatever "trap" you had, its all in your mind

Well my mind has plenty of room....lol.

It feels good to be set straight by something/someone OTHER than the akashik record for a change!

I've properly adjusted my thinking, and now will continue forward with enhanced poise and confidence based on your valuable input sir!

Though we were once on the same page, we are now hovering in the vicinity of the same paragraph.

Your admitting your mind has plenty of room...your recognising theres so much air in there raised you in my estimation two fold