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anyone find a better one?

now that was tough....

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cant beat that but tough first 5 or 6 for our Johnny.....

certainly a tough ask ,maybe one for boxrec editors to up date biography page and give us a little insight into his amateur career.he must of had some form on his side.

What johnny are you referring to?

Indonesian Hasan Ambon had a crazy career. Of his nine fights, he fought 7 different fighters, 4 went onto win versions of a world title. Two fought for a version of a world title and the other was national champ. Not surprisingly he finished 0-9(2).

johnnygreaves wrote:What johnny are you referring to?

i'm guessing its meant to be you

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I was thinking they meant me, I learned all I needed about surviving & getting through in my first 6 to last my whole 78 fights . Tuff start but educational

johnnygreaves wrote:I was thinking they meant me, I learned all I needed about surviving & getting through in my first 6 to last my whole 78 fights . Tuff start but educational

I only had a handful of amateur fights, and before the first one the advice i got was "Keep your hands up, jab and don't forget to f*cking move"

johnnygreaves wrote:I was thinking they meant me, I learned all I needed about surviving & getting through in my first 6 to last my whole 78 fights . Tuff start but educational

johnny whats your aim mate

My aim has always been 100 fights . I was an ok am. But got my education in gyms & on the unlicensed circuit. Knew I weren't great but also that I was tough as old boots . Never really hurt in 50 & was British champ. Got nothing from school & needed a way to feed my kids. Not much opportunity for a good job . Choose to use my body doing something I know. Fighting . I love my job. Even with the record. I'm dead proud.

johnnygreaves wrote:My aim has always been 100 fights . I was an ok am. But got my education in gyms & on the unlicensed circuit. Knew I weren't great but also that I was tough as old boots . Never really hurt in 50 & was British champ. Got nothing from school & needed a way to feed my kids. Not much opportunity for a good job . Choose to use my body doing something I know. Fighting . I love my job. Even with the record. I'm dead proud.

respect to you mate seen ya at ya job ya make it look easy at what ya do mate

Thanks mate! See that's the thing. Some lads think going in , standing in front & taking shots & being tuff makes them a good journeyman. I learned that that ain't the way. Make em work for it , but stay out of agg . I've no need to prove my chin anymore!

Old bones Ian wrote:http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

anyone find a better one?

Not surprised he packed it in!

Who was his manager? Boris Karloff?

Rafael Marquez fought Victor Rabanales in his debut... Rabanales had over 50 wins by then and was a former world champion...

I've just uploaded Jorge Suero fight against Duran , now i know sometimes Boxrec doesn't have all of someones fights , but if this is the guys debut what a place to make it, lets just say the crowd wasn't on his side!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A8XW-Y7 ... ature=plcp

Yohei Tobe has had a solid start to his career
Debut against the then Korean champion
Then a former world champion (Wandee Singwancha)
Then a 2 time title contender (Kohei Kono)

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How about Marcela Eliana Acuna?
Debuted against Christy Martin...then faced Lucia Rijker
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Akbar Mohammadpour (I think this is the premier contender for a male)
Debuted against Singsurat then faced Wonjongkam!
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Danny Sutton
Faced wonjongkam then Panomroonglek Kaiyarn Hadaogym twice
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Ego Yohan
Did the same as above but fought Panomroomglek first
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Old bones Ian wrote:I've just uploaded Jorge Suero fight against Duran , now i know sometimes Boxrec doesn't have all of someones fights , but if this is the guys debut what a place to make it, lets just say the crowd wasn't on his side!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A8XW-Y7 ... ature=plcp

what a crowd how many fight s had duran had there great shots to finish the fight

Old bones Ian wrote:I've just uploaded Jorge Suero fight against Duran , now i know sometimes Boxrec doesn't have all of someones fights , but if this is the guys debut what a place to make it, lets just say the crowd wasn't on his side!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A8XW-Y7 ... ature=plcp

Thanks for doing that mate. Suero actually didn't look too bad (for a debutant) until he got comprehensively sparked!

Superheavy wrote:

Old bones Ian wrote:I've just uploaded Jorge Suero fight against Duran , now i know sometimes Boxrec doesn't have all of someones fights , but if this is the guys debut what a place to make it, lets just say the crowd wasn't on his side!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2A8XW-Y7 ... ature=plcp

Thanks for doing that mate. Suero actually didn't look too bad (for a debutant) until he got comprehensively sparked!

Isn't this the same guy?
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Random question Johnny, your second pro fight against Dean Harrison, how do you get a score of 55-50 from a 6 rounder? Surely a mistake on Boxrec's part.

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Tho I have an inkling he's had more fights than that unless he has the worlds cruelest manager.

it's almost like the Eric Crumble mystery, great finds there lads. if its the same guy what a record!!!

johnnygreaves wrote:Thanks mate! See that's the thing. Some lads think going in , standing in front & taking shots & being tuff makes them a good journeyman. I learned that that ain't the way. Make em work for it , but stay out of agg . I've no need to prove my chin anymore!

Alright Johnny,

Never realised your 1st 2 fights were against Midlands based lads.

Anyway really admire your honesty and have seen you fight (mainly in the midlands) a fair few times and on TV and can honestly say your the best at what you do mate, always give the audience good value for money (can be a cheeky git sometimes, the home crowd loves a pantomine villian) and always give the lads you fight a proper education.

You may not have won any belts mate but dont think people dont recognise what you've done in the sport fella.

Most other journeyman would disagree, I try my best to have a go but don't think having a war is gonna help my cause . I try to entertain. Some journeyman are like watching paint dry. It's a hard job to make em work, entertain but not get beaten up in the process