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National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 15:15
by terrez
Just a question I been trying to find the answer too, maybe someone knows the answer on here?

Have national titles always been able to be contested abroad, for example:

McDonagh vs Murtagh for the Irish title on 25th Feb this year; is being contested in Sussex?

This just seems wrong to me, I think national titles should be contested on their home soil in front of a home crowd. Has this always been the way or is it a more recent occurrence, has the English or Scottish titles ever been contested 'abroad'?

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 15:34
by 15829
tony oakey defended his british title in ireland

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 15:43
by JamesH
Didn't Hennessy win the bids for Chisora Fury the first time of asking, having planned to put the fight on abroad (Spain I think) - only to be turned down? I think c5 came along for him just after that.

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 15:55
by smoggy7188
There was an Irish title on the Price undercard last week.

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 16:02
by clintonmcphilbin
Am sure been a few Irish title fights in liverpool.

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 16:58
by jonp
Did steve collins beat Storey in the USA for the Irish title?

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 07:18
by saturday_kid
Without sounding a bit racist - the irish title gets defending in mainland UK quite a bit, and even elsewhere.

And yeah Hennessy wanted to hold Fury/Chisora in marbella I think?

Made an interesting concept imo at the time, loads of english holidaying over there

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 07:45
by slapbangwhallop
saturday_kid wrote:Without sounding a bit racist - the irish title gets defending in mainland UK quite a bit, and even elsewhere.

And yeah Hennessy wanted to hold Fury/Chisora in marbella I think?

Made an interesting concept imo at the time, loads of english holidaying over there
"mainland" :lol:

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 07:53
by slapbangwhallop
jonp wrote:Did steve collins beat Storey in the USA for the Irish title?
He did, theres been loads abroad, plenty in Brum - Darren Sweeney and Michael Alexander fought for the title in the 90's - Liverpool, Hull, London and a few others have also played host.

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 08:05
by TerribleTerry
Malcolm Melvin beat Shuan Coogan for the Irish light welter title in Brum back in the early 90s too. There are loads of examples.

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 09:19
by iamasadlittleboy
Been a few Welsh ones in England
Pat Clinton v Joe Kelly fought in England for a Scottish title (1987) and Steve Watt v Tommy McCallum (1985) (I'm not going any further back on that one)

Tony Oakey v Brian Magee fought in a British title fight in Dublin (2007)

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 09:23
by Old bones Ian
diggler wrote:tony oakey defended his british title in ireland
I think the Oakey v Magee fight was the only British title fight to take place outside of the UK

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 30 Jan 2012, 08:53
by T.M.K
Not a national title, I know, but it always struck me as "why not indeed!" when Junior Witter defended the Commonwealth title against Lovemore Ndou in the United States :-)

I don't see any problem with national title contested aboard, but I think it's nice they get contested on home soil.

"T.M.K"

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 30 Jan 2012, 09:36
by IRLangmaid25
T.M.K wrote:Not a national title, I know, but it always struck me as "why not indeed!" when Junior Witter defended the Commonwealth title against Lovemore Ndou in the United States :-)

I don't see any problem with national title contested aboard, but I think it's nice they get contested on home soil.

"T.M.K"
If memory serves me correctly, that fight also served as a WBC eliminator which is probably which is why over the United States.

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 30 Jan 2012, 09:52
by oliverfennell
Here's one for you.

Jeff Lacy vs Donnell Wiggins for the USBA title (essentially the national championship of the USA) in Manchester.

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 31 Jan 2012, 15:08
by boxref
oliverfennell wrote:Here's one for you.

Jeff Lacy vs Donnell Wiggins for the USBA title (essentially the national championship of the USA) in Manchester.
I refereed that. I thought it strange at the time, but it was essentially put on to introduce the British public to Lacy prior to his fight with Calzaghe.

Re: National Titles Being Contested 'Abroad'

Posted: 31 Jan 2012, 19:10
by gobbles
Irish titles often contested in Britain, largely because there wasn't a big active Irish professional scene until the 90s, so Irish boxers were often based in UK.