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Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 07 Feb 2012, 14:57
by Crease
We all know that boxing has different style, regardless of weight classes who would you say are the five greatest msters of each style.
(taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Definition_of_Style)

Boxer/out-fighter:
A classic "boxer" or stylist (also known as an "out-fighter") seeks to maintain distance between himself and his opponent, fighting with faster, longer range punches, most notably the jab, and gradually wearing his opponent down.

Boxer-puncher:
A boxer-puncher is a well-rounded boxer who is able to fight at close range with a combination of technique and power, they tend to wear their opponents down using combinations and then move in to score the knockout.

Brawler/slugger:
A brawler is a fighter who generally lacks finesse and footwork in the ring, but makes up for it through sheer punching power.

Swarmers/in-fighter:
In-fighters/swarmers (sometimes called "pressure fighters") attempt to stay close to an opponent, throwing intense flurries and combinations of hooks and uppercuts

Counter puncher:
Counter punchers are slippery, defensive style fighters who often rely on their opponent's mistakes in order to gain the advantage whether it be on the score cards or more preferably a knockout.

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 07 Feb 2012, 16:11
by ThatOne
Ali
Ali
Foreman
Frazier
Louis

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 07 Feb 2012, 17:36
by Goodnight, Irene
ThatOne wrote:Ali
Ali
Foreman
Frazier
Louis
How is Ali a boxer-puncher? How is Louis that description of a counter-puncher?

Anyway, Id say...

Pep
Louis
Foreman
Armstrong
Locche

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 07 Feb 2012, 21:37
by IRLangmaid25
For me each style would have to be

Outfighter: Muhammed Ali
Boxer Puncher: Marvin Hagler
Brawler/Slugger: Rocky Marciano
For pressure fighter it is a tossup between Mike Tyson and Julio Cesar Chavez Snr
Counter punchers you are probably looking at Pernell Whittaker and Floyd Mayweather.

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 07 Feb 2012, 21:40
by Goodnight, Irene
Maybe some of you guys should stay with mentioning fighters youve seen.

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 05:41
by Ezzard
Good thread and a good idea by Irene… I’ll keep my picks to fighters from my lifetime.

1) I want to say Whittaker, but he was much more than this…then most fighters don’t fit neatly into one slot.
2) Thomas Hearns
3) Julian Jackson, Gerald McClellan, Pipino Cuevas
4) Roberto Duran
5) Floyd Mayweather Jr, Don Curry, Wilfred Benitez

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 05:54
by 'Frilla
Ali
Louis
Foreman
Frazier
DeLaHoya

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 07:17
by SaadOffTheDeck
Pep
Robinson
Ketchel
Armstrong
Holyfield

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 09:37
by clubberlang
Outfighter: Muhammed Ali
Boxer Puncher: Sugar Ray Robinson
Brawler/Slugger: Rocky Marciano
For pressure fighter: Julio Cesar Chavez Snr (methodical) & Henry Armstrong (Relentless)
Counter puncher: Floyd Mayweather Jr

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 10:11
by Techno89
Outfighter: Muhammed Ali
Boxer Puncher: Joe Louis
Brawler/Slugger: Rocky Marciano
For pressure fighter: George Foreman
Counter puncher: Floyd Mayweather Jr

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 10:11
by theone
I"m sticking to fighters I've seen in their prime...

Outfighter- Whitaker
Boxer Puncher- Ray Leonard
Brawler/slugger- Foreman
Pressure fighter- JC Chavez Sr.
Counter Puncher- James Toney

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 10:48
by yancey
Techno89 wrote:Outfighter: Muhammed Ali
Boxer Puncher: Joe Louis
Brawler/Slugger: Rocky Marciano
For pressure fighter: George Foreman
Counter puncher: Floyd Mayweather Jr
More than one on this thread are getting the slugger and swarmer categories mixed up, to my way of thinking.

Foreman = slugger.
Marciano = swarmer

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 11:08
by SaadOffTheDeck
Whitaker spent more time on the inside digging to the body than he did as an 'outside fighter'.

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 12:57
by King Carlos
SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Holyfield
"Counter punchers are slippery, defensive style fighters who often rely on their opponent's mistakes in order to gain the advantage whether it be on the score cards or more preferably a knockout."

:neutral:

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 13:07
by King Carlos
BarryWashington wrote:holyfield was a tremendous counter puncher . . . when he wanted to be
Sure. Doesn't really fit into that particular definition, though, does he? Then again the definitions are a bit of a problem in general. It's hard to lump fighters into them because most of the great ones had more to their style. Guys like Whitaker and Holyfield could be members of several of those groups. I'd be more comfortable labeling Holyfield as a boxer-puncher myself.

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 14:08
by Crease
:lol:

Actually guys I meant name 5 fighters for each boxing style. (25 in all)
:lol: :TU:

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 14:10
by Crease
yancey wrote:More than one on this thread are getting the slugger and swarmer categories mixed up, to my way of thinking.

Foreman = slugger.
Marciano = swarmer
Yeah, Marciano is the typical swarmer.

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 00:26
by scallum
Ali
Srr
Foreman
Greb
Mayweather

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 09 Feb 2012, 08:27
by theone
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Whitaker spent more time on the inside digging to the body than he did as an 'outside fighter'.
Whitaker was equally adept at doing both. When pressured Whitaker was murder on the inside. But Whitaker spent most of his time circling the ring wide-eyed in that flat footed style of his, making people miss, flicking his jab and throwing that awesome straight left hand of his to the head and body.

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 11 Feb 2012, 01:13
by AngryGoon38
Crease wrote:We all know that boxing has different style, regardless of weight classes who would you say are the five greatest msters of each style.
(taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Definition_of_Style)

Boxer/out-fighter:
A classic "boxer" or stylist (also known as an "out-fighter") seeks to maintain distance between himself and his opponent, fighting with faster, longer range punches, most notably the jab, and gradually wearing his opponent down.

Pep,Ali,Holmes,B.Leonard

Boxer-puncher:
A boxer-puncher is a well-rounded boxer who is able to fight at close range with a combination of technique and power, they tend to wear their opponents down using combinations and then move in to score the knockout.

Duran,Chavez Sr,Hagler,Louis,Lewis,S.R Robinson,S.R Leonard,Holyfield,Liston

Brawler/slugger:
A brawler is a fighter who generally lacks finesse and footwork in the ring, but makes up for it through sheer punching power.

Marciano,Hearns,Tua,Shavers,Foreman

Swarmers/in-fighter:
In-fighters/swarmers (sometimes called "pressure fighters") attempt to stay close to an opponent, throwing intense flurries and combinations of hooks and uppercuts

Tyson,Frazier,Quarry,Dempsey

Counter puncher:
Counter punchers are slippery, defensive style fighters who often rely on their opponent's mistakes in order to gain the advantage whether it be on the score cards or more preferably a knockout.

Tunney,Mayweather jr,P.Whittaker,M.Taylor,B.Hopkins

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 24 Feb 2012, 08:38
by Crease
Coming back to this topic, I am going to attempt to name the top 5 of these styles in terms of the Heavyweight Division.
I realise that somne boxers are elligible for one or more styles, but just bare with me.

Boxer/out-fighter:
A classic "boxer" or stylist (also known as an "out-fighter") seeks to maintain distance between himself and his opponent, fighting with faster, longer range punches, most notably the jab, and gradually wearing his opponent down.
Muhammad Ali
Floyd Patterson
Gene Tunney
Ezzard Charles
Jersey Joe Walcott

Boxer-puncher:
A boxer-puncher is a well-rounded boxer who is able to fight at close range with a combination of technique and power, they tend to wear their opponents down using combinations and then move in to score the knockout.
Joe Louis
Ken Norton
Evander Holyfield

Brawler/slugger:
A brawler is a fighter who generally lacks finesse and footwork in the ring, but makes up for it through sheer punching power.
George Foreman
Sonny Liston
Ken Norton
Max Baer

Swarmers/in-fighter:
In-fighters/swarmers (sometimes called "pressure fighters") attempt to stay close to an opponent, throwing intense flurries and combinations of hooks and uppercuts
Rocky Marciano
Joe Frazier
Jack Dempsey
James Jeffries


Counter puncher:
Counter punchers are slippery, defensive style fighters who often rely on their opponent's mistakes in order to gain the advantage whether it be on the score cards or more preferably a knockout.[/quote]
Lennox Lewis
Larry Holmes
Max Schmeling

They are just my inital thoughts. Lets say that this is a template that needs to be worked on.

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 27 Feb 2012, 22:57
by I Feel Fine
Boxer/out-fighter
Robinson

Boxer-puncher:
Robinson

Brawler/slugger:
Sheer punching power only? Difficult. Jackson and some others named had some finesse. I guess I'll succumb to peer pressure and say Foreman, but I might re-think that later.

Swarmers/in-fighter:
Armstrong.

Counter puncher:
Ezzard Charles maybe.

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 27 Feb 2012, 23:09
by Goodnight, Irene
I Feel Fine wrote:Boxer/out-fighter
Robinson

Boxer-puncher:
Robinson

Brawler/slugger:
Sheer punching power only? Difficult. Jackson and some others named had some finesse. I guess I'll succumb to peer pressure and say Foreman, but I might re-think that later.

Swarmers/in-fighter:
Armstrong.

Counter puncher:
Ezzard Charles maybe.
A rare visitor to these parts nowadays.

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 27 Feb 2012, 23:29
by I Feel Fine
Yes, but thanks for noticing.

Re: Top 5 Greatest Fighters from each boxing style: P4P

Posted: 01 Mar 2012, 21:35
by Borinken25
AngryGoon38 wrote:
Crease wrote:We all know that boxing has different style, regardless of weight classes who would you say are the five greatest msters of each style.
(taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing#Definition_of_Style)

Boxer/out-fighter:
A classic "boxer" or stylist (also known as an "out-fighter") seeks to maintain distance between himself and his opponent, fighting with faster, longer range punches, most notably the jab, and gradually wearing his opponent down.

Pep,Ali,Holmes,B.Leonard

Boxer-puncher:
A boxer-puncher is a well-rounded boxer who is able to fight at close range with a combination of technique and power, they tend to wear their opponents down using combinations and then move in to score the knockout.

Duran,Chavez Sr,Hagler,Louis,Lewis,S.R Robinson,S.R Leonard,Holyfield,Liston

Brawler/slugger:
A brawler is a fighter who generally lacks finesse and footwork in the ring, but makes up for it through sheer punching power.

Marciano,Hearns,Tua,Shavers,Foreman

Swarmers/in-fighter:
In-fighters/swarmers (sometimes called "pressure fighters") attempt to stay close to an opponent, throwing intense flurries and combinations of hooks and uppercuts

Tyson,Frazier,Quarry,Dempsey

Counter puncher:
Counter punchers are slippery, defensive style fighters who often rely on their opponent's mistakes in order to gain the advantage whether it be on the score cards or more preferably a knockout.

Tunney,Mayweather jr,P.Whittaker,M.Taylor,B.Hopkins
Crease Hearns is more a boxer/puncher than Brawler/slugger. Hearns was outboxing a prime Leonard. I don't see how you see Hearns a Brawler/slugger. Can you elaborate on that?