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This fight is scheduled for April 21st. I think Crolla wins surprised Matthews is able to fight after his stoppage loss for British,

leforge wrote:This fight is scheduled for April 21st. I think Crolla wins surprised Matthews is able to fight after his stoppage loss for British,

His fight for the Euro title (against Rees) was a TD, not a loss. He was stopped in an IBO title fight.

Thought Derry looked like he needed a rest after ibo fight to sort his nose out. Can only see it going again in this fight.

earsjohn wrote:

leforge wrote:This fight is scheduled for April 21st. I think Crolla wins surprised Matthews is able to fight after his stoppage loss for British,

His fight for the Euro title (against Rees) was a TD, not a loss. He was stopped in an IBO title fight.

I did not phrase well was meant to say surprised allowed to fight for British title after stoppage loss.

leforge wrote:

earsjohn wrote:

leforge wrote:This fight is scheduled for April 21st. I think Crolla wins surprised Matthews is able to fight after his stoppage loss for British,

His fight for the Euro title (against Rees) was a TD, not a loss. He was stopped in an IBO title fight.

I did not phrase well was meant to say surprised allowed to fight for British title after stoppage loss.

I'm hearing that Murray v Barker is going to go to bids for the UK Middleweight -Barker was stopped last time out.
Danny McIntosh was stopped by Gutknecht last time out and he fights Bellew for the UK title next.

earsjohn wrote:

leforge wrote:

earsjohn wrote: His fight for the Euro title (against Rees) was a TD, not a loss. He was stopped in an IBO title fight.

I did not phrase well was meant to say surprised allowed to fight for British title after stoppage loss.

I'm hearing that Murray v Barker is going to go to bids for the UK Middleweight -Barker was stopped last time out.
Danny McIntosh was stopped by Gutknecht last time out and he fights Bellew for the UK title next.

It's different when a fighter has been stopped at a higher level to be honest... if it had been a stoppage against a domestic competitor theres reason not to sanction it (unless in exceptional circumstances)

What? Matthews vs Crolla? Anthony will KO Derry with no question.

Derry needs a good 6-8 months break with the nose injury and hes hardly been out of training for a fight since his comeback, this has the feel of him trying to get 1 last decent pay day retiring



Crolla body shots around the 4th

I like Derry, but this doesn't make sense.

Ben Murphy should have been given the shot. He walked through previously unbeaten Tony Owen in his last bout at lightweight and gave Theophane all he could handle after taking the fight at three days notice in a weight category higher than he campaigns in!

Derry should take some time out as has been mentioned, but regardless of that, he shouldn't get this shot over Murphy when you look at his last loss against the Italian. Also, while the Rees ending wasn't his fault, to my mind it is further evidence that he perhaps cannot stand up to top level punishment on his snoz.

its a good fight this,who else would put up a fight at light weight to crolla like derry matheews,apart from murray but he wont fight crolla. derry has had a brilliant run of fights and no one deserves a shot at the lonsdale more than him. good luck derry mate

herb wrote:I like Derry, but this doesn't make sense.

Ben Murphy should have been given the shot. He walked through previously unbeaten Tony Owen in his last bout at lightweight and gave Theophane all he could handle after taking the fight at three days notice in a weight category higher than he campaigns in!

Derry should take some time out as has been mentioned, but regardless of that, he shouldn't get this shot over Murphy when you look at his last loss against the Italian. Also, while the Rees ending wasn't his fault, to my mind it is further evidence that he perhaps cannot stand up to top level punishment on his snoz.

good call with ben murphy mate

all the people writing Derry off are in for a shock here!

herb wrote:I like Derry, but this doesn't make sense.

Ben Murphy should have been given the shot. He walked through previously unbeaten Tony Owen in his last bout at lightweight and gave Theophane all he could handle after taking the fight at three days notice in a weight category higher than he campaigns in!

Derry should take some time out as has been mentioned, but regardless of that, he shouldn't get this shot over Murphy when you look at his last loss against the Italian. Also, while the Rees ending wasn't his fault, to my mind it is further evidence that he perhaps cannot stand up to top level punishment on his snoz.

Ben Murphy has lost 3 of his last 4 fights and won 2 out of his last 7.

Dont get me wrong, i really enjoyed the Murphy vs Theopane fight but Maloney must have pulled some strings to get that one passed with the board.

Derry Mathews is English champion which is why he got the nod, would be a decent fight at a different time... too soon in my opinion.

Seems my last reply was a bit of a thread killer, nobody disagree?

cocobongo wrote:all the people writing Derry off are in for a shock here!

What is it with Scousers ?

Cant believe Derry is getting a shot at a british title,after coming back&doing ok in prizefighter what has he done?? hes hung tough with Rees for a few rounds&beat a over the hill Lawton&beat 3 novices in Unsworth,Watson&Jennings,Then losing to some dude who to be honest none of us have heard off....but after the top 5,there isnt no contenders....This will be Mathews last fight id have thought

markfightoptions wrote:Seems my last reply was a bit of a thread killer, nobody disagree?

I agree with both your points

fasteddie wrote:its a good fight this,who else would put up a fight at light weight to crolla like derry matheews,apart from murray but he wont fight crolla. derry has had a brilliant run of fights and no one deserves a shot at the lonsdale more than him. good luck derry mate

Brilliant run of fights

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Cant believe Derry is getting a shot at a british title,after coming back&doing ok in prizefighter what has he done?? hes hung tough with Rees for a few rounds&beat a over the hill Lawton&beat 3 novices in Unsworth,Watson&Jennings,Then losing to some dude who to be honest none of us have heard off....but after the top 5,there isnt no contenders....This will be Mathews last fight id have thought

Aside from John Murray who is finding his level (hes discovered its not world level), then mathews is actually next in line

Everyone above crolla is onto better things and below him you have ben murphy or willie limond, both just been defeated for british titles


Ricky Burns - wbo champ
Kevin Mitchell - gonna fight ricky burns
gavin rees - euro champ
anthony crolla - british champ
john murray - in limbo, finding his level
derry mathews - english champ
ben murphy - won 2 out of last 7, just defated for british light-welter
willie limond - just been defeated for british
john watson - moved up to light-welter
carl joanneson - fighting goodiwn in eliminator
chris goodwin - fighting johanneson in eliminator
stephen jennings - not enough experience

(using boxrec ratings)

As i said after the top five,Burns(above Brit level) Mitchell,Rees,Murray&Crolla there is nobody....Crolla is bang on to win the londale outright with the likes of Limond&Mathews as best contenders

Yeah, can't really see this ending too well for Derry. Crolla with a mid-rounds stoppage for me.

bripez wrote:

cocobongo wrote:all the people writing Derry off are in for a shock here!

What is it with Scousers ?

Fiercely loyal/blind!

what do i have to loose , trust me i have what it takes to beat anthony , had my nose checked its fine and will be ok , have never boxed for the lonsdale belt and trust me in april 21 il be winning one , as ant ever boxed anyone as good as me .brodie was finished when anthony beat him

derry wrote:what do i have to loose , trust me i have what it takes to beat anthony , had my nose checked its fine and will be ok , have never boxed for the lonsdale belt and trust me in april 21 il be winning one , as ant ever boxed anyone as good as me .brodie was finished when anthony beat him

I wish you well Derry if you prove me wrong,il be first on here&big you up....BUT i think you wont last the course&be pulled out or stopped...
I know ive put u down on this site,but you have had a decent career back in the day&for that i down to you

I no am in with one of best prospects out there Anthony is a class fighter but is he a lightweight as he been hit of one , have got some of the best sparring out there lined up am getting took out of my comfort zone and away from family and friends for 8 weeks then come fight night il be more than ready ,