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Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 11:29
by Black Sam Bellamy
Haye needs a warmup before he goes for Vladimir. In the absence of any credible American, it has to be Chisora. The winner gets Vlad. Does anyone think this whole episode has been scripted; with the Klitschkos fully bought into it. The water episode was part of the script to build up heat between Chisora and Vlad...just in-case Chisora gets the job done against Haye. The post fight staredown builds up a bit more heat. The presser was nicely scripted with an early summer fight between Haye and Chisora nicely setup for London. Why did Chisora's promoter make no attempt to restrain him when Chisora walked off stage ? And why was Haye commentating on allegedly anyway ? David Haye loves to build up a storyline. The phoneywar with his mate Audley being a prime example.

Are there any other non-believers out there or is it just me ?

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 11:31
by willardx
Pure WWF circa 1989!!!

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 11:34
by CheckHook
Not scripted but will be spun as such.... Haye went to steal a little attention for himself and when Chisora approached him he got scared and intimidated and lashed out like a bitch. Chisora then made some childish comments while Booth tried to play ambassador. I thought it was funny when Booth criticised Vitali's managment, talk about a lack of self awarness.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 11:38
by Black Sam Bellamy
It all just seems so contrived to me. The slap, the water, the brawl. The Klitschkos might be perfect gentleman but they know how to play the game; especially Vlad.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 11:41
by markfightoptions
Its all been agreed beforehand, all prescripted.

Expect Haye vs Chisora to be a joint promotion between Hayemaker, Frank Waren and K2 Promotions.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 11:42
by Quixall
CheckHook wrote:Not scripted but will be spun as such.... Haye went to steal a little attention for himself and when Chisora approached him he got scared and intimidated and lashed out like a bitch. Chisora then made some childish comments while Booth tried to play ambassador. I thought it was funny when Booth criticised Vitali's managment, talk about a lack of self awarness.
I agree, it will be spun in such a way to deliver possibly three fights out of the whole episode...........

I don't think Haye was scared in the slightest !!

If Chisora would have said " I am coming over so we can agree to make a fight in London.......Shall we talk David ? "

But it was........

" Say it to my face, say it to my face..............i'm coming over so you can say it to my face "

So haye was prepared for confrontation and Chisora went into his chest, so it's no suprise that Haye lashed out. It was the same with Bennt and Hide, Rahman and Lewis, one guy lashes out because the other one will if he doesn't.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 11:54
by Heiwa
Haye - stay retired, you're an embarrassment.

Chisora - grow up, learn some respect and how to behave.

Klitschkos - rarely exciting, but at least they have some dignity and professionalism.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 11:57
by baulks
I doubt Adam Booth getting cuts to his face was part of the script. Haye is a disgrace. Once again he talks crap and tries to steal the spotlight from Klitschko/Chisora; to re-launch his career.

He should be jailed for attacking Chisora and Booth with that Camera Tripod.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 12:02
by Coco
More like I see Haye v Vitali and Chisora v Vlad.

Chisora v Haye may interest us more but it German TV that pays the bills and there isn't anyone left for the Klits to fight.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 12:11
by leforge
Chisora needs to win afight before challenging for World title again.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 12:24
by josh fg
leforge wrote:Chisora needs to win afight before challenging for World title again.
For Chisora his best match up would be a rematch with Fury or a fight with Price, however I think he would rather roll the dice vs Haye in what could lead to a more lucrative match up and lead to a title challenge no question.

For Haye he could do with a tune up -as Lennox Lewis stated when he said he shouldn't go strait back into a fight with a Klitschko, but were I his manager I'd probably go for a tune up vs a much bigger opponent to get him back used to fighting taller guys, Helenius wouldn't be a bad shout for him. However if he does fight Chisora as a tune up he's guaranteed a live opponent and a full arena which will make him an absolute fortune. Apparently it's now odds on for Haye to fight Chisora as both of thir next opponent.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 12:25
by leforge
josh fg wrote:
leforge wrote:Chisora needs to win afight before challenging for World title again.
For Chisora his best match up would be a rematch with Fury or a fight with Price, however I think he would rather roll the dice vs Haye in what could lead to a more lucrative match up and lead to a title challenge no question.

For Haye he could do with a tune up -as Lennox Lewis stated when he said he shouldn't go strait back into a fight with a Klitschko, but were I his manager I'd probably go for a tune up vs a much bigger opponent to get him back used to fighting taller guys, Helenius wouldn't be a bad shout for him. However if he does fight Chisora as a tune up he's guaranteed a live opponent and a full arena which will make him an absolute fortune. Apparently it's now odds on for Haye to fight Chisora as both of thir next opponent.
We have to see what the board do first regarding Chisora.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 12:32
by Coco
Chisora is never going to fight Price or Fury when he has got Vlad or Haye in the pipeline

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 12:53
by josh fg
leforge wrote:
josh fg wrote:
leforge wrote:Chisora needs to win afight before challenging for World title again.
For Chisora his best match up would be a rematch with Fury or a fight with Price, however I think he would rather roll the dice vs Haye in what could lead to a more lucrative match up and lead to a title challenge no question.

For Haye he could do with a tune up -as Lennox Lewis stated when he said he shouldn't go strait back into a fight with a Klitschko, but were I his manager I'd probably go for a tune up vs a much bigger opponent to get him back used to fighting taller guys, Helenius wouldn't be a bad shout for him. However if he does fight Chisora as a tune up he's guaranteed a live opponent and a full arena which will make him an absolute fortune. Apparently it's now odds on for Haye to fight Chisora as both of thir next opponent.
We have to see what the board do first regarding Chisora.
Very true, although if the BBBoC do ban him from the British ring he could well go to the states with this press.

It would probably be good for him to spend some time away from being a big fish in a small pond and get some quality sparing.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 12:54
by yiddo14
He would be mad to consider Fury or Price. Why lose earning tens of thousands when you can lose earning hundreds of thousands!

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 12:58
by josh fg
depends if the extent of your ambition is building experience for a longer career and being best prepared for a HW title challenge you can or making a lot of money from a couple of smash and grab raids on world class.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 13:16
by Finn
Coco wrote:More like I see Haye v Vitali and Chisora v Vlad.

Chisora v Haye may interest us more but it German TV that pays the bills and there isn't anyone left for the Klits to fight.
The german tv pays the least

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 13:26
by yiddo14
josh fg wrote:depends if the extent of your ambition is building experience for a longer career and being best prepared for a HW title challenge you can or making a lot of money from a couple of smash and grab raids on world class.
If he fought Fury and Price in his next two he could easily end up with two more losses and a million miles away from another shot. If the chance to fight these top guys is there then it's hard not to take it.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 13:28
by Cholo_cws
Can't see Haye fighting anybody other than a Klitschko. I don't think he'd want to risk losing to anybody but the very best ie one of the Klitschkos. Chisora is too risky for too little reward/credibility.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 14:34
by yiddo14
I think Haye would bear Chisora fairly easy. It could satisfy the brothers request for him to prove he is worthy too.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 16:16
by josh fg
yiddo14 wrote:I think Haye would bear Chisora fairly easy. It could satisfy the brothers request for him to prove he is worthy too.
yeah, I think it's a win-win-win right now.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 16:23
by Finn
josh fg wrote:
yiddo14 wrote:I think Haye would bear Chisora fairly easy. It could satisfy the brothers request for him to prove he is worthy too.
yeah, I think it's a win-win-win right now.
I agree, he may as well get it on, the klits would thank haye for it and haye would obliterate chisora, i think it would go the same way as the ruiz fight. Also haye would get mega bucks for it and get to smash chisora up again.

Re: Haye, Chisora and the Klitschkos - the plan

Posted: 19 Feb 2012, 16:43
by josh fg
Also if he does a better number than Klitschko did on Chisora he'd have a more legitimate platform to call them out from too.