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What a weekend of shame; the sport is on the front pages and for all the wrong reasons.

Chisora and Haye both acted wothout thought or restraint. The only ones to come out with any credit are the two champion brothers.

BUT, why was Wlad in the Chisora dressing room before the bout unles to unerve and disrupt Chisoras' mind set?

Why was Wlad in Chisoras face immediatley before the bout?

The 2 brothers faced Chisora and his team in an aggressive manner, inside the ring, after the bout had finished. I thought that it may have gone off then.

Chisora acted a chump, so did Haye; I'm not convinced that Vitali and Wlad are the first class gents they are made out to be though.

palooka wrote:What a weekend of shame; the sport is on the front pages and for all the wrong reasons.

Chisora and Haye both acted wothout thought or restraint. The only ones to come out with any credit are the two champion brothers.

BUT, why was Wlad in the Chisora dressing room before the bout unles to unerve and disrupt Chisoras' mind set?

Why was Wlad in Chisoras face immediatley before the bout?

The 2 brothers faced Chisora and his team in an aggressive manner, inside the ring, after the bout had finished. I thought that it may have gone off then.

Chisora acted a chump, so did Haye; I'm not convinced that Vitali and Wlad are the first class gents they are made out to be though.

a member of the other team is allowed to watch the hand wrapping wlad is part of vitalis corner

Wlad was checking the wraps, he is a member of the corner team so nothing stopping him. They always do the checking for the other brother. Chisora should have been ready for it like Haye said on allegedly that night. If you watch Chisora goes over to Vitalis corner so if Wlad gets in his face then it is fair enough. Boente is the worst part of K2. He was the catalyst and just sat back and watched the shit hit the fan.

I thought the handwrapping was generally witnessed by the other trainer.

It's been said that Wlad cut a memacing figure in the changing room; staring at Chisora etc.

they are guilty of mind games.

but if a man can stand there and keep his cool when another spits in your face, i think thats all the evidence you need. crap post.

Only in the UK could you have a suggestion that the Klit brothers instigated anything here.
I give up.

Steady on; I'm not saying the brothers caused the fight and commotion at the post fight pres conference.

Some of the posting about the brothers has been too deferential. The 2 may have been guilty of 'mind games' as someone else said; those mind games could've been seen as threatening and intimidating. The in ring post fight confrontations looked like getting out of hand.

Chisora and Haye didn't need any help to kick off.

palooka wrote:Steady on; I'm not saying the brothers caused the fight and commotion at the post fight pres conference.

Some of the posting about the brothers has been too deferential. The 2 may have been guilty of 'mind games' as someone else said; those mind games could've been seen as threatening and intimidating. The in ring post fight confrontations looked like getting out of hand.

Chisora and Haye didn't need any help to kick off.

Well, Chisora has a past record of confrontations pre fight.... Klitchsko's haven't.

They're 6 foot 7.... and in great shape..... going to look pretty intimidating even if they are singing the tune of button moon.

palooka wrote:I thought the handwrapping was generally witnessed by the other trainer.

It's been said that Wlad cut a memacing figure in the changing room; staring at Chisora etc.

So fornicating what? Its a boxing match!!!!

This whole situation has shown up quite a few folk on here as copmplete idiots, some supporting that absolute fanny Haye and others supporting the mentally ill Chisora but for you to denigrate the only two people to come out of this without shame is quite disturbing, to say the least.

Blimey, do you reckon some fighters put on a persona for the public?


No way, i was out horse riding with Chris Eubank yesterday and he said this never happens.

palooka wrote:I thought the handwrapping was generally witnessed by the other trainer.

It's been said that Wlad cut a memacing figure in the changing room; staring at Chisora etc.

usually the trainer but any corner man

Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Blimey, do you reckon some fighters put on a persona for the public?


No way, i was out horse riding with Chris Eubank yesterday and he said this never happens.

They without doubt break their opponents down with mind games, do I think they take the moral high ground from time to time yeah I do, lets not forget the ring walk incident before the Haye fight and the way they make their opponents hang around the ring for ages making them get cold after warming up.

I've got to admit though the self control in the face of such provocation is admirable but as Wlad has said in the past if you go through the Ukrainian army like they did you get broken down on a daily basis.

Tough guys.

No, I agree palooka - they definitely aren't what they portray - PR is invested in heavily IMO

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:

palooka wrote:I thought the handwrapping was generally witnessed by the other trainer.

It's been said that Wlad cut a memacing figure in the changing room; staring at Chisora etc.

So effing what? Its a boxing match!!!!

This whole situation has shown up quite a few folk on here as copmplete idiots, some supporting that absolute fanny Haye and others supporting the mentally ill Chisora but for you to denigrate the only two people to come out of this without shame is quite disturbing, to say the least.

I'm not a complete idiot; Haye and Chisora went way overboard AND there was little control or security. There didn't seem to that much in the ring post fight either.

I've not 'denegrated' either brother but have asked questions re their conduct and behaviour and whether that contrbuted the overall atmosphere. The brothers may hae used mind games etc in the past with no apparent reaction from their opponents. The brothers are obviously above question to some.

berealman wrote:No, I agree palooka - they definitely aren't what they portray - PR is invested in heavily IMO

Thank you; that's 2 of us (complete idiots)

Mind games are a part of boxing; trying to get into an opponents head to gain an advantage hardly precludes someone from being a 'first class' gentleman.

There are several posters who believe that the Klits are always putting on an act. What would it take for these posters to be convinced otherwise?

palooka wrote:

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:

palooka wrote:I thought the handwrapping was generally witnessed by the other trainer.

It's been said that Wlad cut a memacing figure in the changing room; staring at Chisora etc.

So effing what? Its a boxing match!!!!

This whole situation has shown up quite a few folk on here as copmplete idiots, some supporting that absolute fanny Haye and others supporting the mentally ill Chisora but for you to denigrate the only two people to come out of this without shame is quite disturbing, to say the least.

I'm not a complete idiot; Haye and Chisora went way overboard AND there was little control or security. There didn't seem to that much in the ring post fight either.

I've not 'denegrated' either brother but have asked questions re their conduct and behaviour and whether that contrbuted the overall atmosphere. The brothers may hae used mind games etc in the past with no apparent reaction from their opponents. The brothers are obviously above question to some.

Also, Chisora aggresively approached both the Klitschkos immediatly before and instigated the pre-fight conflict with Vitali; it was not the other way around as you suggest in your original post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woFCtBRSASc

See for yourself: As soon as Vitali enters the ring Chisora confronts him, Chisora walks up to Wlad and spits in his face, and Chisora reacts hostily when Vitali shakes his hand following the bout. It's unreasonable to blame the Klitschkos for any of these confrontations, or a press conference brawl that did not involve them.

He hardly turned up in the other dressing room and started pushing Chisora around, did he?

Both Klitschkos are top guys. Maybe when Vitali is president of Ukraine you might give him some credit

Because Ukrainan politics has a great history of having fantastic, straight dealing and genuine people involved? Yes, the president of the Ukraine deserves the same respect as the president of Turkmenistan or Burma.

gobbles wrote:He hardly turned up in the other dressing room and started pushing Chisora around, did he?

Both Klitschkos are top guys. Maybe when Vitali is president of Ukraine you might give him some credit

Face it some people are never going to give them credit. Chisora spitting was the worst thing he did.