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Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 03:56
by T.M.K
Hi gents, sorry for my ignorance.....
*) Is Coleman Barret still Irish Heavyweight champion?
*) If he is - would there not be a good reason for him to vacate it and then challenge the high-profile winner?
*) Is anyone else stumped....because Fury picking up the Irish title makes sense, but having this bout as a non-title fight just seems incredibly "plateau" for Tyson's career.
"T.M.K"
Re: Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 04:12
by stevieb_8006
i wondered about this. but ultimately what r belts actually worth nowadays.
Re: Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 05:11
by yiddo14
Fury held the British and commonwealth straps. He vacated them so belts clearly mean little to him.
The Irish is nowhere near as prestigious as either of those.
Re: Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 06:55
by damianhucker1
If i understood right from the press conference they have to get an Irish License to be eligible , which Tyson Fury doesnt currently hold although they was looking into the paperwork to see if it was possible , i think hennessey said it still could be for the Irish title but he didnt want to say it was until it was 100%
Re: Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 09:26
by gobbles
damianhucker1 wrote:If i understood right from the press conference they have to get an Irish License to be eligible , which Tyson Fury doesnt currently hold although they was looking into the paperwork to see if it was possible , i think hennessey said it still could be for the Irish title but he didnt want to say it was until it was 100%
That can't be true. Frankie Gavin has never had an Irish licence and neither has Matthew Macklin and both held Irish titles. Assume it's the same with Jamie Moore, while Irish Boxing Union has no authority in the north anyway.
Re: Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 09:40
by damianhucker1
gobbles wrote:damianhucker1 wrote:If i understood right from the press conference they have to get an Irish License to be eligible , which Tyson Fury doesnt currently hold although they was looking into the paperwork to see if it was possible , i think hennessey said it still could be for the Irish title but he didnt want to say it was until it was 100%
That can't be true. Frankie Gavin has never had an Irish licence and neither has Matthew Macklin and both held Irish titles. Assume it's the same with Jamie Moore, while Irish Boxing Union has no authority in the north anyway.
Martin Rogan was saying about he holds both so hes not got a prob , said his Irish Runs out in November .
Best bet is to watch the press conference and listen for yourself , i had my kids running around while trying to listen .
Re: Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 15:17
by slapbangwhallop
yiddo14 wrote:Fury held the British and commonwealth straps. He vacated them so belts clearly mean little to him.
The Irish is nowhere near as prestigious as either of those, in my opinion.
Fixed that for you!

Re: Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 15:19
by slapbangwhallop
gobbles wrote:damianhucker1 wrote:If i understood right from the press conference they have to get an Irish License to be eligible , which Tyson Fury doesnt currently hold although they was looking into the paperwork to see if it was possible , i think hennessey said it still could be for the Irish title but he didnt want to say it was until it was 100%
That can't be true. Frankie Gavin has never had an Irish licence and neither has Matthew Macklin and both held Irish titles. Assume it's the same with Jamie Moore, while Irish Boxing Union has no authority in the north anyway.
Correct, you dont. You dont need a British licence to hold or fight for a British title either.
Re: Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 21:20
by ShadrachSimmo
Because Tyson is moving on. Dont oversell it big man.
Re: Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 06:34
by damianhucker1
slapbangwhallop wrote:gobbles wrote:damianhucker1 wrote:If i understood right from the press conference they have to get an Irish License to be eligible , which Tyson Fury doesnt currently hold although they was looking into the paperwork to see if it was possible , i think hennessey said it still could be for the Irish title but he didnt want to say it was until it was 100%
That can't be true. Frankie Gavin has never had an Irish licence and neither has Matthew Macklin and both held Irish titles. Assume it's the same with Jamie Moore, while Irish Boxing Union has no authority in the north anyway.
Correct, you dont. You dont need a British licence to hold or fight for a British title either.
then what was the mention of Irish Licenses for ?
You may have been able to listen to the presser easier than i could so maybe you could shed light on that ?
Re: Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 07:41
by slapbangwhallop
damianhucker1 wrote:slapbangwhallop wrote:gobbles wrote:
That can't be true. Frankie Gavin has never had an Irish licence and neither has Matthew Macklin and both held Irish titles. Assume it's the same with Jamie Moore, while Irish Boxing Union has no authority in the north anyway.
Correct, you dont. You dont need a British licence to hold or fight for a British title either.
then what was the mention of Irish Licenses for ?
You may have been able to listen to the presser easier than i could so maybe you could shed light on that ?
Because Rogie didn't want to come straight out and say that he only had a British licence.
Re: Why is Fury-Rogan not for the Irish title?
Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 17:08
by steve689
I think I heard someone say at the presser that Coleman Barrett was stripped of the Irish title, although I don't know why. I seem to recall Hennessy saying at the previous Fury-Firtha conference that Barrett had turned down a fight with Fury unless he'd had a couple of warm-ups first.
Here's a little bit more:
http://www.irish-boxing.com/2012/03/fur ... pportunity