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Mark Staniforth damnation of Haye in his Sportinglife column

Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 15:14
by Abbo
Blimey, he's not mincing his words here. Fair play to him

http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news ... ml&BID=543

Just when you thought heavyweight boxing could not get more unedifying, Vitali Klitschko has apparently revealed that he is set to give disgraced Londoner David Haye another shot at his crown.

Haye, of course, is still wanted for questioning by German police over his part in the brawl with Klitschko victim Dereck Chisora in Munich last month, and does not currently own a boxing licence.

The Klitschkos are plumbing increasingly new depths to find opponents - witness the domestic-level Chisora, who at least had a go, and the pitiful Jean-Marc Mormeck folding against Wladimir last weekend.

Nobody is suggesting it is the Klitschkos' fault that they reign in the worst era in heavyweight boxing history, and in which the only genuine challenger to each other is just that - each other, in the one fight that can never happen.

But handing Haye another shot would send out a simply appalling message from the sport - for the utterly dismal manner of his challenge to Wladimir last time out, but more for his behaviour in Munich.

Haye has heaped nothing but shame on the heavyweight division since he swanned out for a press conference with Wladimir wearing a tasteless tee-shirt bearing the image of the Klitschkos' decapitated heads.

He was moronic throughout the whole pre-fight week and his pleasant, private intimations that his outbursts were all in the name of hype simply don't wash: tell that to the kids who see in his obnoxious behaviour a blueprint for their own futures.

One would have hoped that the intelligent and articulate elder Klitschko would understand the damage to the sport's image a fight against Haye would engender, and insist on looking elsewhere.

Instead, the saving grace may come in the form of the sport's sanctioning bodies. The German authorities will certainly not licence Haye without the say-so of the British Boxing Board of Control.

Understandably, they have refused to answer hypothetical questions over Haye's imminent attempt at re-licensing. But when it inevitably comes, it is incumbent on the Board to show their backbone and reject his bid.

Most predictions are that Chisora will get a year-long ban when he faces his misconduct hearing at the Board next week, and few who witnessed his behaviour in Munich would deny he has it coming.

But Haye played his own full part in bringing boxing into disrepute. If his appearance at the post-fight press conference was a planned promotional ruse for that future fight with Vitali, it backfired badly.

Instead of garbling an apology in between tweeting cheesy snaps of himself heading off to Las Vegas to party, Haye could have helped his cause by showing rather more genuine contrition.

Haye is not, as he seems to think, untouchable. The sport has created far greater and certainly more respected champions, and has fought hard to overcome the tragedies and controversies which have often threatened to sink it.

The great and good of British boxing congregated on a panel for BBC Radio Five Live last week, during which they spoke encouragingly of the amateur code making great strides towards being reintroduced to the school curriculum.

The Board's general secretary, Robert Smith, was among those who insisted the future looked bright.

First, Smith's organisation must act swiftly and decisively to prevent one man dragging it back towards the dark ages.

Re: Mark Staniforth damnation of Haye in his Sportinglife column

Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 15:46
by loaded_gloves
Good, truthful assessment on Haye.

However, the Germans will license him regardless of the UK. Remember when Bonecrusher failed a brainscan and the BBFC pulled his fight with Henry Akinwande? Only a few weeks later he was fighting Axel Schulz in Germany instead. They're pretty easy going over there it seems.

Re: Mark Staniforth damnation of Haye in his Sportinglife column

Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 16:20
by Glyn Leach
loaded_gloves wrote:Good, truthful assessment on Haye.

However, the Germans will license him regardless of the UK. Remember when Bonecrusher failed a brainscan and the BBFC pulled his fight with Henry Akinwande? Only a few weeks later he was fighting Axel Schulz in Germany instead. They're pretty easy going over there it seems.
The Board has no say in this, Haye can get licenced in Latvia or wherever and the German federation will accept him because of how massive the Klitschkos are. It's not in their best interests to turn down their cut of a Klitschko fight, nor to make the Klitschkos fight outside Germany.

Re: Mark Staniforth damnation of Haye in his Sportinglife column

Posted: 09 Mar 2012, 18:21
by Rita1
Be Interesting To see how long of a ban Chisora gets People are thinking about a 12 to 18 months
Unbelievably The board banned Jane Couch for life From being a manager in Nov For standing up licence holders In Oct at a AGM about the Rules of Association :o

Re: Mark Staniforth damnation of Haye in his Sportinglife column

Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 04:26
by forcefraser
I`m sick of hearing about all this role model bullshit, as Staniforth writes

"tell that to the kids who see in his obnoxious behaviour a blueprint for their own futures"

A blueprint? Get real. The failure of kids to become decent human beings, with respect for others and a positive attitude is not the fault of people like David Haye. It is the fault of the parents and the downfall of values in society as a whole-

My Hero was Marvin Hagler when I was young. If he had a fight at a press conference, it would not make me want to do the same and IF it did somehow turn me into an anti social arsewipe then my parents would have put me back in line.

I say it again, look at Ali`s utterly disgraceful treatment of Joe Frazier before their Manilla fight. It was FAR worse than anything David haye has ever done. Yet Ali is god, Ali is the greatest sportsman the world has ever seen, whilst Haye is a cheap punk.

I appreciate that columns have to be filled in this 24 hour media fueled world, but please, spare us the double standards for once.

Re: Mark Staniforth damnation of Haye in his Sportinglife column

Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 05:53
by whiskey
A lot of people feel the same way about Haye at present - and it's down to himself to reverse their opinions. I personally think he will do.

There's a simple reason - people were oversold his performance; They were all whipped into a frenzy about this destructive KO coming, this complete obliteration and decapitation !

Ambulances at the ready, delayed ring walks and funeral talk !

Then...a mediocre effort and 'The Toe'. :D

Like I said, he won't want to be remembered like that and I think he will do Vitali, more so after the Chisora fight.

Re: Mark Staniforth damnation of Haye in his Sportinglife column

Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 05:56
by tonyevs
I am pretty sure the head of the German boxing federation has said he would happily allow Haye to fight there.

You can't blame Haye or Vitali for making the fight.

But it does highlight the terrible state of the heavyweight division.
Haye is a proven imposter. Who performed lamely in his last fight ... who has actually performed lamely in almost all his heavyweight fights.
Then you have a rapidly decling champion with no worthy challengers.

I won't buy it. Its all recycled rubbish.

Re: Mark Staniforth damnation of Haye in his Sportinglife column

Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 06:15
by Final round
tonyevs wrote: Haye is a proven imposter. :lol: :lol: :lol: Who performed lamely in his last fight ... who has actually performed lamely in almost all his heavyweight fights.
Almost all his HW fights eh? out of six fights how many did he perform lamely in?
Bonin, Barrett, Valuev, Ruiz, Audley, Wlad

Re: Mark Staniforth damnation of Haye in his Sportinglife column

Posted: 10 Mar 2012, 07:42
by Boxing Pirate
Staniforth in my opinion is a ****.

Yet another journalist if you can indeed call him that jumping on the wagon of hating Haye.

It is up to the authorities who and how they will apportion blame and punishment not for some trumped up journalist to attempt to gain some attention by writing his garbage.