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Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 07:23
by dondada
Enzo takes a stance over his first aid certificate!
WAR St John's Ambulance!
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2012/enzo-c ... id-dispute
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 07:41
by dondada
King Geedorah wrote:I did one with him on this situation last month. He went off on one and said, "My gym is in my house. I can do what I like in my house."
Legend.
"When the President does it, it is not illegal."

Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 09:09
by freddydoesdallas
Serves him right. A deal has been agreed between the BBBC & the producers of the medical qualification which will be a business. The provider will have put a lot of time & money into the qualification to ensure it meets the needs of the BBBC. Their reward for investment is that the qualification is used as a license to practice.
I'm sure Enzo wouldn't want someone to be stiffed on a business deal after what Joe went through
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 09:53
by Jeff Thomas
Enzo is a real character ... I'm amazed by the success he's had. His achievements as a trainer must make a lot of people mad as he is incredibly naive about so many aspects of exercise theory. Great story and this seems typical of him.
He only needed to watch Hopkins once and knew joe could beat him....

that tells almost the entire calzaghe story
Good luck to him
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 10:03
by Asterix
MachoMan09 wrote:"Why do I need to get a new first aid certificate in the first place?" If he's asking questions like that, I'm glad he's been stripped of his licence. Two answers that immediately spring to mind are 1. skill fade and 2. medical advancements. He sometimes comes across as a proper throbber.
The biggest argument is that the BBBofC want him to do a first aid course that is specific to boxing, which he has
not done.
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 10:09
by willardx
doesn't he look like Zorro!
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 10:59
by thepocketrocket
Jeff Thomas wrote:Enzo is a real character ... I'm amazed by the success he's had. His achievements as a trainer must make a lot of people mad as he is incredibly naive about so many aspects of exercise theory. Great story and this seems typical of him.
He only needed to watch Hopkins once and knew joe could beat him....

that tells almost the entire calzaghe story
Good luck to him
Enzo is a loudmouth...Dean Powell always gave better advice in the corner.
An to be fair, most of Joes opponents from 97 to 06, Joe would have beaten them without a corner
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 12:39
by leforge
thepocketrocket wrote:Jeff Thomas wrote:Enzo is a real character ... I'm amazed by the success he's had. His achievements as a trainer must make a lot of people mad as he is incredibly naive about so many aspects of exercise theory. Great story and this seems typical of him.
He only needed to watch Hopkins once and knew joe could beat him....

that tells almost the entire calzaghe story
Good luck to him
Enzo is a loudmouth...Dean Powell always gave better advice in the corner.
An to be fair, most of Joes opponents from 97 to 06, Joe would have beaten them without a corner
Dean Powell is good in a corner cause he knows 90% of the time the other guy a lemmon as he picked him!
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 13:04
by Londonirish
leforge wrote:thepocketrocket wrote:Jeff Thomas wrote:Enzo is a real character ... I'm amazed by the success he's had. His achievements as a trainer must make a lot of people mad as he is incredibly naive about so many aspects of exercise theory. Great story and this seems typical of him.
He only needed to watch Hopkins once and knew joe could beat him....

that tells almost the entire calzaghe story
Good luck to him
Enzo is a loudmouth...Dean Powell always gave better advice in the corner.
An to be fair, most of Joes opponents from 97 to 06, Joe would have beaten them without a corner
Dean Powell is good in a corner cause he knows 90% of the time the other guy a lemmon as he picked him!

Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 06:55
by Final round
leforge wrote:thepocketrocket wrote:Jeff Thomas wrote:Enzo is a real character ... I'm amazed by the success he's had. His achievements as a trainer must make a lot of people mad as he is incredibly naive about so many aspects of exercise theory. Great story and this seems typical of him.
He only needed to watch Hopkins once and knew joe could beat him....

that tells almost the entire calzaghe story
Good luck to him
Enzo is a loudmouth...Dean Powell always gave better advice in the corner.
An to be fair, most of Joes opponents from 97 to 06, Joe would have beaten them without a corner
Dean Powell is good in a corner cause he knows 90% of the time the other guy a lemmon as he picked him!
Hah!
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DD
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 07:07
by whiskey
Let's cut through the bull and look at the facts,
He never attended the course on his doorstep, the same one that probably several other trainers and cornermen were all going to attend from the region. It would have been pretty well known to those is the trade what the date and venue was.
Then after not turning up at that one - he was told to come to London, he then got a massive arse on about it and thus had his license revoked for not attending.

Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 07:25
by reggaereggae
Enzo is a character and a great trainer; but sometimes he does think he's above the rules...........
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 12:51
by Khaosai-Galaxy
Political correctness gone mad!
Yeah, you tell 'em Enzo!
I cant see a single reason why a trainer needs basic first aid knowledge, its not like anyone ever got hurt in boxing.
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 13:44
by Final round
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Political correctness gone mad!
Yeah, you tell 'em Enzo!
I cant see a single reason why a trainer needs basic first aid knowledge, its not like anyone ever got hurt in boxing.
what's wrong with old first aid technique's anyway? a hand drill and a jar of leaches would suffice.
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 15:15
by Khaosai-Galaxy
Final round wrote:Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Political correctness gone mad!
Yeah, you tell 'em Enzo!
I cant see a single reason why a trainer needs basic first aid knowledge, its not like anyone ever got hurt in boxing.
what's wrong with old first aid technique's anyway? a hand drill and a jar of leaches would suffice.
Absolutely!
"its only concussion!"
(AKA Brain Damage)
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 00:36
by boxingfarmer30
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Final round wrote:Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Political correctness gone mad!
Yeah, you tell 'em Enzo!
I cant see a single reason why a trainer needs basic first aid knowledge, its not like anyone ever got hurt in boxing.
what's wrong with old first aid technique's anyway? a hand drill and a jar of leaches would suffice.
Absolutely!
"its only concussion!"
(AKA Brain Damage)
I held a seconds licence and was told by the board i could not renew as a valid first aid was not held........now i only held a seconnds so really i was only allowed in the ring if the trainer had been thrown out of the corner which in 6 yrs holding never happened once so my point is WHY should i have to hold a first aid which i've taken once before but ran out when the trainer in corner holds on plus the various medics and paramedics ring side di a load of bol l ocks if you ask me money,money,money thats all the board are bothered about.
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 07:13
by Final round
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Final round wrote:Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:Political correctness gone mad!
Yeah, you tell 'em Enzo!
I cant see a single reason why a trainer needs basic first aid knowledge, its not like anyone ever got hurt in boxing.
what's wrong with old first aid technique's anyway? a hand drill and a jar of leaches would suffice.
Absolutely!
"its only concussion!"
(AKA Brain Damage)
You and yer newfangled terms
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Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 08:03
by housesecond
Got to say I'm with Enzo on this one. I'm 1st aided up to the eyeballs but now they tell me it has to be one of their courses.
Not happy.
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 09:55
by housesecond
Livingstone Cole wrote:Is this course expensive?
50 quid. But its not just that. It's the travelling plus finding the time.
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 13:21
by boxingfarmer30
MachoMan09 wrote:boxingfarmer30 wrote:Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:
Absolutely!
"its only concussion!"
(AKA Brain Damage)
I held a seconds licence and was told by the board i could not renew as a valid first aid was not held........now i only held a seconnds so really i was only allowed in the ring if the trainer had been thrown out of the corner which in 6 yrs holding never happened once so my point is WHY should i have to hold a first aid which i've taken once before but ran out when the trainer in corner holds on plus the various medics and paramedics ring side di a load of bol l ocks if you ask me money,money,money thats all the board are bothered about.
First aid best practice changes frequently, also, if you don't refresh/practice your skills, skill-fade occurs and when the shit hits the fan you're left clueless when auto-pilot doesn't kick in. This can can have serious ramifications to the injured party.
Just because a guy hasn't be thrown out of the corner in six years, it doesn't mean he'll never get kicked out of the corner - leaving you in the command seat.
People have a tendency to toss-off first aid courses, and such like, but they are almost always the people who've never been in a situation that requires usage of first aid; they are also the people who are flapping around in a panic and/or shock when something does actually happen, and invariably are the ones who struggle to cope, psychologically, in the aftermath when they blame themselves (often rightly) for being effing useless.
Well thats me told.
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 15:54
by The Insider
The idea of the course was to give trainer seconds a qualification specifically tailored to boxing. The course includes segments on diet, dehydration, head injury, fitness and training, supplements, shock, brakes, strains, fracture etc to name a few.
Boxers are generally well provided for medically at professional shows but in the gym its a different kettle......
It gives trainer seconds a basic grounding to ensure that if the worst happens to a boxer in the ring or the gym, he has the best chance possible of recovery from his/her injuries. Feedback in general from those who have raken the course has been very positive.
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 16:48
by Scrap
I thought the one I went too was very Basic, waste of time.
Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 17:05
by The Insider
Scrap wrote:I thought the one I went too was very Basic, waste of time.
Basic it isn't!!!!
It's a very intensive course that lasts a day. The blue binder containing over 250+ pages of information plus the practical work and the written multiple choice test at the conclusion is anything but. Unless you already know it all

Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 17:21
by Scrap
Nearly

Re: Enzo Calzaghe stripped of trainer's licence
Posted: 26 Mar 2012, 19:35
by Khaosai-Galaxy
MachoMan09 wrote:boxingfarmer30 wrote:Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:
Absolutely!
"its only concussion!"
(AKA Brain Damage)
I held a seconds licence and was told by the board i could not renew as a valid first aid was not held........now i only held a seconnds so really i was only allowed in the ring if the trainer had been thrown out of the corner which in 6 yrs holding never happened once so my point is WHY should i have to hold a first aid which i've taken once before but ran out when the trainer in corner holds on plus the various medics and paramedics ring side di a load of bol l ocks if you ask me money,money,money thats all the board are bothered about.
First aid best practice changes frequently, also, if you don't refresh/practice your skills, skill-fade occurs and when the shit hits the fan you're left clueless when auto-pilot doesn't kick in. This can can have serious ramifications to the injured party.
Just because a guy hasn't be thrown out of the corner in six years, it doesn't mean he'll never get kicked out of the corner - leaving you in the command seat.
People have a tendency to toss-off on first aid courses, and such like, but they are almost always the people who've never been in a situation that requires usage of first aid; they are also the people who are flapping around in a panic and/or shock when something does actually happen, and invariably are the ones who struggle to cope, psychologically, in the aftermath when they blame themselves (often rightly) for being effing useless.
well, its a long day, give a guy a break.