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Erik Morales

Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 17:49
by markfightoptions
Just heard Morales has been stripped of his WBC light-welter belt for failing to make the weight against Garcia.

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 23 Mar 2012, 18:04
by freddydoesdallas
Has he attempted to make the weight or just done an Alvarez/Rios and came in at a weight he feels strong at? Could make the 5/2 on him look good

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 02:04
by hitman_hatton1
markfightoptions wrote:Just heard Morales has been stripped of his WBC light-welter belt for failing to make the weight against Garcia.
bet he gets that back with a vacant title shot in his next fight.

it's a joke he held the title in the first place. :oops:

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 02:14
by crusader
Erik not looking too good, at least in relative terms.

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Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 02:53
by Datsue
I love him, but how does a dude look simultaneously drained & fat at the same time?

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 04:03
by dan28uk
i think this is planned by morales not as though he couldnt make 140,his legacy is secure with becoming the first mexican to become 4 weight world champion. against a young hungry garcia this is all about the win sweating down to 140 garcia has his number at 142 might be different.

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 04:50
by Counter-puncher
Datsue wrote:I love him, but how does a dude look simultaneously drained & fat at the same time?
see James Toney vs Roy Jones jr :TU:

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 07:03
by Camcas
Morales could get hurt in there tonight

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 07:10
by whiskey
Datsue wrote:I love him, but how does a dude look simultaneously drained & fat at the same time?
He crashes it, rather than taper off.

Thus canabilses his muscle, leaving a smaller, shabbier version of his tubby self.

If he ate grilled chicken and steamed green veg for a month he'd be entirely different.

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 07:27
by Deno1986
Morales looks terrible, but he hasn't looked in great shape for any of his fights since his comeback. He is a shade of his former self, but is still capable of pulling off an upset or two. Don't think he will do it tonight, mind.

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 07:42
by ShadrachSimmo
hitman_hatton1 wrote:
markfightoptions wrote:Just heard Morales has been stripped of his WBC light-welter belt for failing to make the weight against Garcia.
bet he gets that back with a vacant title shot in his next fight.

it's a joke he held the title in the first place. :oops:
Spot on. Bet poor old Olusegen get's swept aside again by the Worlds Biggest Cockbags.

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 12:06
by fatcity69
Sad really, Morales does look terrible, he actually looks pale and his body looks very soft. You do worry about him carrying on fighting when hes in this condition, this is the point where fighters pick up the damage which can lead to all sorts of health problems in later life. He needs to look at whats happened to Riddick Bowe and either get in proper shape or call it quits while he can still think straight.

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 17:04
by Omerta
Is the fight still on? It said on ssn that he wasn't goin to try and loose the 2lbs and was gonna vacate the belt????

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 17:11
by JDC
Omerta wrote:Is the fight still on? It said on ssn that he wasn't goin to try and loose the 2lbs and was gonna vacate the belt????
Title only on the line for his opponent

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 18:11
by dazzer
will garcia stop morales tonight 3/1 at boylesports looks like a good bet, looking at them weigh in pics

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 18:30
by cakes
Garcia in 5 rounds

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 18:36
by black panther
Morales has never been a body beautiful. Wouldn't surprise me if he takes a dec. against Garcia despite looking awful at the weigh in. Mad how he used to make 122lbs...even if he was only 21 years old. Here he is at 126lbs:

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Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 03:27
by manno
black panther wrote:Morales has never been a body beautiful. Wouldn't surprise me if he takes a dec. against Garcia despite looking awful at the weigh in. Mad how he used to make 122lbs...even if he was only 21 years old. Here he is at 126lbs:

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Morales is pure ectomorph!! I cant see him using a scientific approach to gaining weight(ala Holyfield). Imagine his camps are exactly the same as when he started out but will not kill himself to do the weight.

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 04:53
by crusader
Morales fought better than expected and I thought the fight was possibly still up for grabs until he was dropped in the 11th.

I'd give Ajose a very solid shot of beating Garcia.

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 05:03
by JDC
crusader wrote:Morales fought better than expected and I thought the fight was possibly still up for grabs until he was dropped in the 11th.
If anyone looked like they were going down at that point it was Garcia. Garcia landed a somewhat desperate knock-down and then picked up the last round. That's 5 points different, possibly more if Morales had got his own knock-down. He was certainly in there at the time. :TU:

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 05:43
by Old bones Ian
Anyone see the Kirkland fight?

Odd DQ by the ref, Molina had been knocked down, and the bell rang to end the round mid way through the count , the cornerman stepped into the ring on the bell, he immedietly stepped back out, didn't interfere with Molina in any way. the ref finished the count, then DQ'd Molina.

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 06:29
by alexpaterson
I thought it was a very close fight, though the rounds I gave to Morales were close but Garcia's rounds were more clear cut. I thought early Morales dictated te PAC and picked his punches better but Garcia started getting into it, very good fight IMO. The Kirkland fight was shocking I thought as negative as Molina was he was boxing a very effective fight landing pot shots and getting inside holding frustrating and not giving Kirkland a chance to get going, I had Molina 3 up and thought the decision was very strange and dissapointing by a ref in over his head IMO.

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 07:19
by Final round
alexpaterson wrote:I thought it was a very close fight, though the rounds I gave to Morales were close but Garcia's rounds were more clear cut. I thought early Morales dictated te PAC and picked his punches better but Garcia started getting into it, very good fight IMO. The Kirkland fight was shocking I thought as negative as Molina was he was boxing a very effective fight landing pot shots and getting inside holding frustrating and not giving Kirkland a chance to get going, I had Molina 3 up and thought the decision was very strange and dissapointing by a ref in over his head IMO.
I agree the ref was awfully weak all the fight and the DQ was complete bullshit. Molina made it a really ugly fight but he was winning and Kirkland struggled to adapt

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 08:00
by housesecond
crusader wrote:Erik not looking too good, at least in relative terms.

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Breathing in won't help, unless the place is filled with helium

Re: Erik Morales

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 11:14
by Final round
Livingstone Cole wrote:
Final round wrote:
alexpaterson wrote:I thought it was a very close fight, though the rounds I gave to Morales were close but Garcia's rounds were more clear cut. I thought early Morales dictated te PAC and picked his punches better but Garcia started getting into it, very good fight IMO. The Kirkland fight was shocking I thought as negative as Molina was he was boxing a very effective fight landing pot shots and getting inside holding frustrating and not giving Kirkland a chance to get going, I had Molina 3 up and thought the decision was very strange and dissapointing by a ref in over his head IMO.
I agree the ref was awfully weak all the fight and the DQ was complete bullshit. Molina made it a really ugly fight but he was winning and Kirkland struggled to adapt
The DQ was within the rules. That's what he should have done.
Every cornerman/woman knows that you can't enter the ring until the round is over.
This includes contests whereby boxers are not saved by the bell, the count, in these cases, becomes an extension of the round.
then why complete the count, wipe off gloves and send him back to his corner if it was a nailed on DQ.
why not wave it off the second the cornerman entered the ring?

ref's discretion it was his choice.