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chiggsy wrote:It must be tempting for fighters in andersons position to say ''sod this whats the point'' and to just get a regular job (that probably pays more).
Fair play to him for just getting on with it but it must be demoralising for him.

G0mez wrote:I'd feel hard done by.

It's horrible training hard for a decent payday and opportunity only for it to be scrapped at the final stage.

Horse wrote:

G0mez wrote:I'd feel hard done by.

It's horrible training hard for a decent payday and opportunity only for it to be scrapped at the final stage.

It happens in boxing, surely a fighter shouldn't be thinking of quitting just because they miss out on one opportunity.

Deserter wrote:You're putting words in the OP's mouth - he talks about fighters in Anderson's position, not about the Groves fight specifically. In terms of context, Anderson turned pro five years ago with plenty of promise yet what's happened in his career in terms of how he's been matched and how he's been paid makes it perfectly valid to question whether the sacrifices of training camp, diet etc are worth it if the return is so pitiful. It's not rocket science.

King Geedorah wrote:

Horse wrote:

Deserter wrote:You're putting words in the OP's mouth - he talks about fighters in Anderson's position, not about the Groves fight specifically. In terms of context, Anderson turned pro five years ago with plenty of promise yet what's happened in his career in terms of how he's been matched and how he's been paid makes it perfectly valid to question whether the sacrifices of training camp, diet etc are worth it if the return is so pitiful. It's not rocket science.

How many times has an opponent pulled out against Anderson and how long has he been trying to step up to this level?

I can't recall Anderson having a lot of tough breaks in his career, so to talk about this pull out as a real heartbreaker doesn't seem right to me.

Think about it. He trains for ten weeks down in Lancashire, he is hitting his weight throughout and gnarly as eff because of this, he has sold a load of tickets to notoriously tight fisted Scots and convinced them to leave the promised land, he hasn't had a sniff of a major title since his last meeting with Groves and he really, really wants to avenge his only defeat. The fight gets pulled, all is in vain and his first reaction wasn't, 'That is a nice outcome for me'.

If you don't understand why the pull out is a heartbreaker then you need to think about the following a) the thrill of fighting for titles b) the struggles of maintaining and making weight c) the importance of avenging a loss and then process the whole lot through that abacus of yours.

King Geedorah wrote:Think about it. He trains for ten weeks down in Lancashire, he is hitting his weight throughout and gnarly as eff because of this, he has sold a load of tickets to notoriously tight fisted Scots and convinced them to leave the promised land, he hasn't had a sniff of a major title since his last meeting with Groves and he really, really wants to avenge his only defeat. The fight gets pulled, all is in vain and his first reaction wasn't, 'That is a nice outcome for me'.

If you don't understand why the pull out is a heartbreaker then you need to think about the following a) the thrill of fighting for titles b) the struggles of maintaining and making weight c) the importance of avenging a loss and then process the whole lot through that abacus of yours.

Deserter wrote:KG, there's no point trying to rationalise with him as you and I both know he's just being deliberately provocative again. I watched with amusement as you and others 'owned' him after he tried the same trick on the 'Other Sports' forum this week but he clearly hasn't learnt anything.
I gave him the benefit of the doubt here and replied normally, but I should have known better.

Horse wrote:They just overwhelmed me with silly horse puns and insults.

I think that maybe you are a little too sensitive.

Horse wrote:

chiggsy wrote:It must be tempting for fighters in andersons position to say ''sod this whats the point'' and to just get a regular job (that probably pays more).
Fair play to him for just getting on with it but it must be demoralising for him.

Has Anderson been hard done by in his career?

One guy pulls out of a fight against him and you think he might be tempted to quit. It seems like an overreaction.

Deserter wrote:Oh, the irony...

billy nelson wrote:Afew guys have pulled out against Kenny in his career (Paul David twice i think),good on him for taking this fight it at least keeps his active and ready for the fight with G.G.

King Geedorah wrote:Yes he has, if you're going to be contrary and have a stab at arguing the toss then at least ensure that you have a knife in your hand as opposed to a slightly sodden marshmallow dildo. IE. why not do a bit of research on the topic?

King Geedorah wrote:Nope, I just couldn't be arsed trawling through the times Anderson and Maree have discussed his rocky road, including a previous late withdrawal when in training for a fight, with me for 'Scene or my personal records to post them so you can get up to speed. Don't be so gnarly about it, just do a bit of research instead of playing a long and tedious game of 'Mother May I' and getting in the way.

King Geedorah wrote:Because I assume knowledge to an extent given that we're on a boxing forum and you assume that anyone who takes the time to post in a thread at least knows what they're talking about. Just I premuse you expect people to think before they post in your P4P threads, which I assumed have been sents to the knacker's yard.

King Geedorah wrote:It wasn't even a long post originally. Para one flipped your 'point' and the second para was an attempt to help you go from a through to b and c and realise why your little comment wasn't a) relevant b) applicable c) infused with any knowledge of a) the fighter b) his personal circumstances c) the history of his career. This in turn led to me making a counter post in an attempt to a) further illustrate that you don't actually follow the sport and just play 'Mother May I' in an attempt to amuse yourself b) drag you into a cyclical debate that would b1) create an iteration of the one thing we've learned, that you don't follow boxing or understand its demands b2) allow me to make the same post a number of times safe in the knowledge that your reply will be either a 'Who, what, me?' version of 'I didn't know his circumstances when I first posted and am still not willing to learn despite trying to troll people by challenging their understanding on other threads' or a gnarly reply that is a basic spin on b2c) which states 'This is why I have a long face' and answers that burning question 'Is your usename directly related to your love of Edward Furlong films or was it a happy coincidence.

King Geedorah wrote:Do you know the difference between watching and seeing?