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steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 03:28
by mdundee
What do U people think of this fight coming up on Friday 29 June 2012 in Melbourne ??

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 06:20
by JDC
How has St. Clair looked lately?

I didn't realise he was still going

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 07:21
by dan h
I think even a shot St Clair puts a total whooping on Wills

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 07:27
by 'Frilla
Wills on points. (I still think he is overrated)

Gairy is finished.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 08:29
by Brute
Gairy is getting on a bit. Wills lost to Mabuza, but that is no disgrace.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 09:24
by Da Voice
I favour Wills

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 20:56
by luke.no1
wills late stopage gairy WAS a great fighting doesnt have much left IMA wills always fit and comes to fight.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 21:03
by kylamy
mdundee wrote:What do U people think of this fight coming up on Friday 29 June 2012 in Melbourne ??

If your talking skill level, Gairy has it all over Steve, but Steve is a real tough kid, who always gives his best.

He has copped it in here and on other sites, a fair bit for his record, not having fought many good higher rated fighter's, he's now changed Trainers and with Lincoln, i believe they are looking to stand up and be counted.

So it's good to see that he's fighting an ageing, but still technically more sound fighter in Gairy, who has fought at a much higher level than Steve has, So he is willing to stand up, whether Gairy is on the wrong side of everything or not, it doesn't matter, he was and still is a good fighter.

I am sure they Realise that both Steve and Gairy do not have lots of time left, but theyre having a go, I see it as a real good fight, raw and mildly skilled, but toughness galore in Steve, versus the silky and speedy hand skills of Gairy, who has good upper body movement, better and faster hands than Steve, so it will be a battle of Wills (No Pun Intended)

On Skill and experience level, you'd have to favour Gairy, but on toughness, durability, power and reasonably good skills & fitness levels and a never say die attitude, (not that Gairy does not have these attributes) you'd have to favor Steve.

Well done to Brian and Brock, cos it's just another good fight that will be worth watching.

just my humble opinion, not that i know much.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 21:14
by colin russell
Oh my Wills is now with Lincoln Hudson his head will be even bigger. L :yay: ooks like a great fight to close to pick, all the best to both of them. :yay:

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 00:32
by kylamy
colin russell wrote:Oh my Wills is now with Lincoln Hudson his head will be even bigger. L :yay: ooks like a great fight to close to pick, all the best to both of them. :yay:

Hi Col, How you been, I hope all is good.

Hey, Its funny, your not the first to say that, but every time i have ever met Steve and Adam, they are nothing but absolute gentlemen, I know your not bagging him, but i think it's all perception, because

I have never heard them be loud and noisy, or big mouths etc, or out of order, they have always been respectful, compliant and always show good manners and are respectful to everyone, So maybe people see them in a different way, to what i have seen them.

I must say they are real nice kids in my opinion, I have refereed and Judged them, while inside the ring, they are fierce competitors, who in my opinion and from what iv'e seen in person, always show good sportsmanship and courtesy to their opponents, forget the serious and mean looks you may get from an all business Steve, I think he's a nice kid, who is not a big mouth or is offensive.

Eitherway, I wish both Gairy and Stevee the best, cos their both good fighter's and yes they're coming to the latter part of their careers, but this still has the makings to be a real good fight.

It's a hard fight to pick, as we all agree, that's what makes it so interesting.

Cheers mate
Brad

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 02:55
by colin russell
Thanks Brad did you think I was refering to Steve Wills head. Just kidding :shame:

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 03:26
by Brute
St Clair is in his middle 30s, but Wills is only 28.

I think he has a few years left. It is not as if he has run up a lot of losses.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 03:55
by mdundee
I think Wills by decision, St.Clair be hard to stop if still moves the way he use too and i heard St. Clair got new trainers so see how he goes with them.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 04:19
by kylamy
colin russell wrote:Thanks Brad did you think I was refering to Steve Wills head. Just kidding :shame:

Nah Col, I knew it was only light hearted, but i'm a sure that Steve wouldn't mind me saying that Adam is better looking??? ha ha ha

I must admit that when Stevee has his game face on, it certainly makes one think "what have i got myself in for here"

Cheers

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 19:44
by luke.no1
mdundee wrote:I think Wills by decision, St.Clair be hard to stop if still moves the way he use too and i heard St. Clair got new trainers so see how he goes with them.
who is gairys new trainer i highly doubt he will listen his been fighting for 30yr and never changed his style not about to either??

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 20:44
by colin russell
As my dear Mum would say a face like thunder.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 19 Apr 2012, 01:30
by Brute
luke.no1 wrote:
mdundee wrote:I think Wills by decision, St.Clair be hard to stop if still moves the way he use too and i heard St. Clair got new trainers so see how he goes with them.
who is gairys new trainer i highly doubt he will listen his been fighting for 30yr and never changed his style not about to either??
As his style has taken him to an IBF World Title (albeit briefly) I would imagine he would be reluctant to change it.

Most boxers never win a title of that prestige.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 19 Apr 2012, 19:58
by mdundee
I didn't say anything about changing st clairs style any where :bag: I think it's the fight wills needs an is the best fight his had in aust yet !!!! can't wait to see it !!!! Wills to win for me tough nite but for both guys cheers :box:

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 20 Apr 2012, 00:29
by Brute
No. Luke No1 did. That was who I was answering.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 20 Apr 2012, 02:18
by Beltane
Gairy has lost 8 of his last 12 fights, but against fighters of greater calibre than Steven.

Gairy has not fought for over 12 months when he last porked up to 154lbs against Ryan Waters in a 12 rounder. The score-cards that night gave Ryan a bigger victory than what I saw on the TV, with Gairy taking a more aggressive role, dropping some of his silken defensive skills to land hits on Ryan, who was in trouble at times.

As he normally fights in the 135-138lb range, Gairy will have to depork somewhat, which plays into the hands of the aggressive, in-your-face style of Steven.

A loss for either fighters, will see the loser stuck in the ranks of the local fighters, with little prospect of fighting for decent bickies overseas.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 20 Apr 2012, 21:39
by Hounddawg
Even if Gairy Wins, he loses...... Wills has always been overrated, he's first loss wasn't quite his first loss imo.

Wills needs to fight some decent LT Welters here in Australia and stop picking at the bones of over the hill fighters.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 21 Apr 2012, 01:56
by iron rhino
I see Garys 37 now,I don't really think that will play into wills hands as wills was never a quick boxer anyway,Gary's,pernell wittaker style nowerdays should frustrate wills.I see the judges being a big part of the decision as a KO isn't realistic IMO.If they see agression as being the points earner,wills has it,but if they see elusive boxing,slick manouvers and style,it has to be gary!I do understand lincs point of view as getting garys name on wills portfolio would be profitable,but anyone who thinks gary is still a hungry worldforce is kidding them selves.Did like gary ralfing his guts up against waters,ha ha!

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 21 Apr 2012, 03:02
by Brute
What weight is this to be fought at? In recent times St Clair has fought at everything from feather weight to super welterweight.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 21 Apr 2012, 03:02
by Brute
What weight is this to be fought at? In recent times St Clair has fought at everything from feather weight to super welterweight.

Re: steve wills vs Gairy St. Clair

Posted: 23 Apr 2012, 03:07
by mdundee
Light Welterweight and the winner should probs fight Solomon Egberime.