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how is a boxer that is known for his defensive skills-slipping punches etc end up slurring so bad?? did he rely get hit that much???

He took hard shots of the likes of Holyfield, Jirov etc but the main cause is probably hundreds or hard rounds of sparring in the gyms of Detriot and elsewhere.

He often used to talk about his tough attitude to sparring in interviews.

Coupled with his lack of discipline between fights, his yo-yoing weight and what not can't have helped matters.

I dread to think how many beatings it took to craft a defence like that.

And he is naturally 11 odd stone fighting up at heavyweight.
He must have made some serious money, I wonder how he has spent it?

cakes

If that's the result of wot hard sparring does to you then that's the biggest argument iv seen that brutal sparring is pointless. U take Enuf risks in a fight ur being paid for wiv out gettin ur brain mashed for free. Gud point that jeff as to how many ud hav to take to get that gud at defense

Who next for him Tel?

Would love to see him over, nostalgia, Fury or Price.

Would be a must buy ticket just to say youd seen him live.

DavidPayne wrote:Who next for him Tel?

Would love to see him over, nostalgia, Fury or Price.

Would be a must buy ticket just to say youd seen him live.

This is the reason he's in the state he's in

I know. But I gave up trying to solve the world and everyone in its problems a while ago.

DavidPayne wrote:Who next for him Tel?

Would love to see him over, nostalgia, Fury or Price.

Would be a must buy ticket just to say youd seen him live.

Yuk.

Fair enough Dave.

I can't be prim and rational about everything flower.

What was his condition like in the last fight?

I know he put the weight back on, just wondering if it's all flab or not.

DavidPayne wrote:Fair enough Dave.

I can't be prim and rational about everything flower.

Now now, don't be petulant. I'm just disgusted at the thought of Toney and Price.
Didn't you see the horrible Lebedev bout?

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Fair enough Dave.

I can't be prim and rational about everything flower.

Now now, don't be petulant. I'm just disgusted at the thought of Toney and Price.
Didn't you see the horrible Lebedev bout?

Didn't see it. I can guess it was horrendous.

I once heard he was suggested to BBBofC for Fury last year.

DavidPayne wrote:

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Fair enough Dave.

I can't be prim and rational about everything flower.

Now now, don't be petulant. I'm just disgusted at the thought of Toney and Price.
Didn't you see the horrible Lebedev bout?

Didn't see it. I can guess it was horrendous.

I once heard he was suggested to BBBofC for Fury last year.

It was horrible, really could hardly watch and Lebedev is like treacle. For someone once so great to look like was sad.

I know what you mean about seeing him live but it would be like Ali Berbick.

Moved like a toddler who'd shat their self.

JDC wrote:Moved like a toddler who'd shat their self.

Yes, sadly.

King Geedorah wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Who next for him Tel?

Would love to see him over, nostalgia, Fury or Price.

Would be a must buy ticket just to say youd seen him live.

I'd prefer Fury as he can't punch as hard as Price. Although Toney-Chisora would be much better as Dereck isn't as tall as the other two.

Better than what? Surely life isn't so boring and sad as to make you wish for a Chisora v Toney farce?

There was def something amiss in the lebdelev fight... Toney seemed to forget the very basics of his own style. This guy was no jirov

Has anyone ever lost a boat load of weight quickly (that they've been carrying for a while)?

If anyone has ever had a plaster cast of on limb you'll know about the feeling of lightness you get when the cast is taken off. I wonder if Toney's whole body felt like that

Jeff Thomas wrote:There was def something amiss in the lebdelev fight... Toney seemed to forget the very basics of his own style. This guy was no jirov

Toney was shot to pieces, simply. He should be nowhere near world or even euro level boxers.

King Geedorah wrote:

DaveBoyMorrison wrote:

King Geedorah wrote: I'd prefer Fury as he can't punch as hard as Price. Although Toney-Chisora would be much better as Dereck isn't as tall as the other two.

Better than what? Surely life isn't so boring and sad as to make you wish for a Chisora v Toney farce?

No, I'd still like to see it. Surely life isn't so boring and sad as to make you spend your time discussing a Toney-Chisora farce rather than ignoring it? We bring enough no-name European scrubs over here so why not a certified legend even if he is past his best?

That old chestnut....


What's the attraction to watching someone with mental illness fight a man in the prime of his life?

Did you enjoy Ali v Holmes?

Has Toney got a mental illness? He might be deluded but I wouldn't say he's got a mental illness.