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The best version of Brown v the best Honeyghan at 147.

lloyd the boxer(curry and blocker) probably takes brown the distance,losing a decison
lloyd the nutcase(bumphus and hatcher)get`s chopped down around the fifth

I'd go with Honeyghan.

Well Tommo the very best version of Honeyghan was both a boxer and puncher (im talking the guy who neatly outboxed gianfranco rosi in Italy before decapitating him with one punch into a concussion) and the controlled rage and lightning reflexes which beat Curry....that honeyghan imo beats Brown just a bit more skilled, and a bigger puncher.

you never knew which lloyd was going into the ring,granted he was very good boxer when the mood took him,but then again look at the beating he took from starling when he he came to brawl,brown was a bigger puncher as well
starling may have been a sick pudendum who delighted in the punishment but brown would have seen lloyd out of there within 5/6 if lloyd had come in all physcho chops

tommo100 wrote:you never knew which lloyd was going into the ring,granted he was very good boxer when the mood took him,but then again look at the beating he took from starling when he he came to brawl,brown was a bigger puncher as well
starling may have been a sick pudendum who delighted in the punishment but brown would have seen lloyd out of there within 5/6 if lloyd had come in all physcho chops

You certainly got that right about Starling taking sadistic pleasure in torturing Honeyghan coming close to finishing him and than backing off. That happened 2-3 times in the fight.
But we know which version of lloyd is going into the ring in this one. Its the best version and that one was the 1985-86 version... forget the guy who fought Starling.the 85-86 version would have ripped to shreds that whiny sourface...hell a shot Honeyghan was still able to wobble Starling badly at the end of the 4th when the bell rang ..he no longer had the reflexes, or hunger in that fight, he had fought a breakneck schedule as champion which was all fine an dandy but not when your regularly doing drugs between camp and womanising and staying up late as much as Lloyd did he was famous in England for cheating on his wife with a lover till 6 am on the morning of a fight.....in the ring as you say he started to just become a wild brawler and slugger...as witnessed in those beatdowns of Vaca and Chung and Bumphus....Honeyghan beat guys like Bumphus,Curry,and Blocker who handled Moochie.

The irony is the Starling fight ruined lloyd and the Breland one where he also came out slugging confirmed he was shot.....after a lengthy layoff he came back at British and commonwealth level and went back to controlled boxing, although by that point the speed, reflexes , conditioning and confidence which made him so special were long gone, his legs and chin were dead too take a look at that last beating by Pazienze, he was dancing around like a man on rollerskates.Where once he might have taken paz out he didnt have the confidence to throw hard shots with paz.

Brown takes it late for me. Lloyd stopped Curry on cuts after 6. Blocker, Hatcher and Bumphus weren't exactly punchers. I think Simon would make it a dogfight like he did with Trice, and he also had a damn good chin (took bombs from a prime Norris at jr. middle). I never thought much of Rosi; look what a past-prime Curry did to him--and that was after Gianfranco had won a belt. He then won another one and defended against weak comp for years; Norris and Vasquez would've Petway'd Rosi before Petway did, but alas, Vincent had the luck of being a mandatory whereas Terry and Julio Cesar were other titlists whom Rosi could avoid.

I can see the argument for Honeygan- the best version- winning this, but if I had to bet I'd bet on Brown.