BoxRec

They are winners of the fights featured on Legendary Nights. If its too many or problematic, submit a top 3 or 5.

Aaron Pryor
Buster Douglas
Evander Holyfield
Felix Trinidad ("winner," my ass, but whatever)
George Foreman
Julio Cesar Chavez
Larry Holmes
Lennox Lewis
Marvin Hagler
Ray Leonard
Riddick Bowe

Leonard
Hagler
Holmes
Holyfield
Foreman
Chavez
Lewis
Trinidad
Bowe
Pryor
Douglas

Leonard
Holyfield
Hagler
Foreman
Holmes
Chavez
Pryor
Lewis
Trinidad
Bowe
Douglas

Leonard
Hagler
Holmes
Holyfield
Chavez
Foreman
Trinidad
Lewis
Pryor
Bowe
Douglas

Just curious for those who offered their opinions.

Would these ratings change if you just rated them "pound for pound best performance only".


I'm guessing that Pryor (sadly) and Bowe would benefit from this change of perspective.

Yes or no is all I'm looking for. Saad purely my guess is that your list may not change or would vary less than perhaps others.

Also I assume that G.I. did not list his ratings within the context of his question.

BoxBuzz wrote:Just curious for those who offered their opinions.

Would these ratings change if you just rated them "pound for pound best performance only".


I'm guessing that Pryor (sadly) and Bowe would benefit from this change of perspective.

Yes or no is all I'm looking for. Saad purely my guess is that your list may not change or would vary less than perhaps others.

Also I assume that G.I. did not list his ratings within the context of his question.

Well Douglas' best performance is arguably more impressive than Lewis' or Trinidad's, so I would guess he would go up a few spots on most people's lists.

J-C wrote:

BoxBuzz wrote:Just curious for those who offered their opinions.

Would these ratings change if you just rated them "pound for pound best performance only".


I'm guessing that Pryor (sadly) and Bowe would benefit from this change of perspective.

Yes or no is all I'm looking for. Saad purely my guess is that your list may not change or would vary less than perhaps others.

Also I assume that G.I. did not list his ratings within the context of his question.

Well Douglas' best performance is arguably more impressive than Lewis' or Trinidad's, so I would guess he would go up a few spots on most people's lists.

Possibly....for those who think Tyson was on fire that night, and Buster just out fought him at the top of Mike's game. For those who thought Mike just phoned in his fight (and still almost KO'd Buster)....they might not be as impressed.

Ray Leonard
Marvin Hagler
Evander Holyfield
George Foreman
Larry Holmes
Lennox Lewis
Julio Cesar Chavez
Riddick Bowe
Aaron Pryor
Felix Trinidad
Buster Douglas

Leonard
Chavez
Hagler
Holyfield
Holmes
Foreman
Trinidad
Lewis
Pryor
Bowe
Douglas

BoxBuzz wrote:Just curious for those who offered their opinions.

Would these ratings change if you just rated them "pound for pound best performance only".


I'm guessing that Pryor (sadly) and Bowe would benefit from this change of perspective.

Yes or no is all I'm looking for. Saad purely my guess is that your list may not change or would vary less than perhaps others.

Also I assume that G.I. did not list his ratings within the context of his question.

My list, as always, is based mainly off of accomplishments. I think the Riddick Bowe from the first Holyfield fight would beat Foreman and obviously he did beat Evander. But that fight can only take you so far. Trinidad,Bowe,Pryor & Lewis are pretty closely grouped imo. The only conceivable change to the guys above them for me would be Holyfield over Holmes.

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Bowe would beat the 94 Foreman, or the 74 Foreman? Or both?

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Bowe would beat the 94 Foreman, or the 74 Foreman? Or both?

Both for my money.

Seamus wrote:Leonard
Chavez
Hagler
Holyfield
Holmes
Foreman
Trinidad
Lewis
Pryor
Bowe
Douglas

Julio at #2 is mind numbing. Hagler wipes his ass with Chavez resume and he was more talented in every way.

Saad, I know what your gettin' at. But I think it's a challenge to take smaller fighters and Imagine what they would do if they were all grown up. I assume you believe a HW Chavez would fall victim to every HW you have rated above him.

Not sure I disagree...however taking these guys proportions and templating them up, does have it's challenges.

I for one was happy to see that most did not "over estimate" the smaller sized fighters overall. But I think it's an easy trap to fall into.

Julio Cesar Chavez is probably BoxRec's most underrated fighter of alltime, at least at the present. PFP his chin and stamina was as good as Hagler's and he was the better bodypuncher of the two.

Ray Leonard
Marvin Hagler
Evander Holyfield - Cruiserweight beginnings help him, as I rate Holmes, Foreman and Lewis higher at heavyweight
Larry Holmes
George Foreman
Julio Cesar Chavez
Lennox Lewis
Aaron Pryor
Felix Trinidad
Riddick Bowe
Buster Douglas

Seamus wrote:Julio Cesar Chavez is probably BoxRec's most underrated fighter of alltime, at least at the present. PFP his chin and stamina was as good as Hagler's and he was the better bodypuncher of the two.

Hagler never got knocked on his ass by Frankie Randall and Chavez never fought fifteen rounds. Putting him second in this group and calling him underrated is a massive oxymoron. I suppose it's how you look at things. Obviously, you think he could have beaten great fighters if he faced them at his best. I'm not so sure he would have. I know Marvin hagler & Evander Holyfield did. There is no opinion or guessing.

BarryWashington wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Bowe would beat the 94 Foreman, or the 74 Foreman? Or both?

Both for my money.

You'd be broke with the '74 Foreman.

Nope, I'd never bet everything on one fight or event and I turn a profit every year. Bowe would rip Foreman apart inside, obviously George could finish him but I'd take Riddick.

Leonard
Hagler
Chavez
Holyfield
Holmes
Lewis
Trinidad
Foreman
Pryor
Bowe
Douglas

How in the hell does Trinidad jump Foreman on your list!?

Holyfield's cruiser exploits get way over rated. No way should he be ahead of Lewis and Foreman.

Not that much in it. You could switch them around.

Trinidad a little more skilled. Their best wins about even. Always hard to rank heavies in p4p lists.

JDC wrote:Holyfield's cruiser exploits get way over rated. No way should he be ahead of Lewis and Foreman.

I think he was a naturally smaller man than most of the heavies he fought.

Ezzard wrote:

JDC wrote:Holyfield's cruiser exploits get way over rated. No way should he be ahead of Lewis and Foreman.

I think he was a naturally smaller man than most of the heavies he fought.

I suppose this is a viable reason if he was fighting at 85-90% of the other guys weights, but once your in a division it shouldn't affect anything imo.

SOTD

Chavez wasn't on the canvas until his 91st fight, Hagler retired after 67 bouts.

I don't see any oxymoron at all. If I called Chavez the greatest fighter of alltime, I would still be in a tiny minority on this forum.