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Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 02:00
by jessi
Who will the bookies make the favorite for this fight ? It has to be close !
And is upton park actually big enough ? Maybe the emirates would of made more sense after selling 30,000 tickets in 6 days !
And could this be the biggest fight in British history as far as Joe public is concerned ?
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 03:25
by JC
jessi wrote:Who will the bookies make the favorite for this fight ? It has to be close !
And is upton park actually big enough ? Maybe the emirates would of made more sense after selling 30,000 tickets in 6 days !
And could this be the biggest fight in British history as far as Joe public is concerned?
Nah, Eubank/Benn and Lewis/Bruno for starters.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 06:38
by JamesH
I honestly can't think of a single reason to make Chisora favourite. In my mind, he's a huge outsider.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 06:56
by mickey1975
Haye is 4/9. I am going big.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 06:59
by xrgcx
David Haye is 4/9 to win the fight, 9/4 to win inside the distance. Chisora is 5/2 to win the fight and 3/1 to win inside the distance
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 07:04
by milpool
JamesH wrote:I honestly can't think of a single reason to make Chisora favourite. In my mind, he's a huge outsider.
Spot on, I think it would be a huge upset if Chisora won. Clearly the bookies agree.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 07:15
by dondada
jessi wrote:And could this be the biggest fight in British history as far as Joe public is concerned ?
Nowhere near.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 07:15
by ALI
milpool wrote:JamesH wrote:I honestly can't think of a single reason to make Chisora favourite. In my mind, he's a huge outsider.
Spot on, I think it would be a huge upset if Chisora won. Clearly the bookies agree.
Clearly they dont, those odds signify the bookies give Chisora a good shot at winning this fight. I cant see it myself, unless Haye gasses down the stretch, which is always a posibility when he fights.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 07:24
by jessi
J-C wrote:jessi wrote:Who will the bookies make the favorite for this fight ? It has to be close !
And is upton park actually big enough ? Maybe the emirates would of made more sense after selling 30,000 tickets in 6 days !
And could this be the biggest fight in British history as far as Joe public is concerned?
Nah, Eubank/Benn and Lewis/Bruno for starters.
What 30,000 tickets sold in 6 days ?
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 07:26
by jessi
JamesH wrote:I honestly can't think of a single reason to make Chisora favourite. In my mind, he's a huge outsider.
The bookies know he out boxed helenius, and put up a good fight with Vitali, they also know Hayes been floored a few times, it has to count for something ?
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 07:26
by jessi
dondada wrote:jessi wrote:And could this be the biggest fight in British history as far as Joe public is concerned ?
Nowhere near.
What was then ?
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 07:36
by dondada
jessi wrote:dondada wrote:jessi wrote:And could this be the biggest fight in British history as far as Joe public is concerned ?
Nowhere near.
What was then ?
That's a really difficult question.
But it's not difficult to say that this ISN'T the biggest because there are loads which were bigger. (Depends how you define bigger, I suppose).
Benn-Eubank II was bigger.
Bruno-Witherspoon
Minter-Hagler
McGuigan-Pedroza
Bruno-McCall
Cooper-Ali II
Hatton-Zoo
And so on...
Don't get things out of perspective - it's two blokes coming off losses fighting to be something like fifth in the world, if that. It's just got silly billies hyped up because of the WWE bollocks.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 08:00
by JC
jessi wrote:J-C wrote:jessi wrote:Who will the bookies make the favorite for this fight ? It has to be close !
And is upton park actually big enough ? Maybe the emirates would of made more sense after selling 30,000 tickets in 6 days !
And could this be the biggest fight in British history as far as Joe public is concerned?
Nah, Eubank/Benn and Lewis/Bruno for starters.
What 30,000 tickets sold in 6 days ?
Well Lewis/Bruno did 25K at Cardiff arms park and Eubank/Benn II did 42k at Old Trafford. I have no idea how fast the tickets sold, but I don't think it's of paramount importance. If your talking the man on the street then you have to factor in how much bigger the TV audience for those fights will Have been (and others like Cooper/Bugner). Pretty much everyone in the country would have had an eye on the result.
It's a big fight (obviously) but if you are going to make claims about something being the biggest in history it's important to consider the whole history. For example Len Harvey/Freddie Mills did 30,000 at White Hart Lane in 1942.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 08:11
by markfightoptions
im going for a disqualification win for Haye after Chisora does something silly.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 08:13
by JamesH
jessi wrote:JamesH wrote:I honestly can't think of a single reason to make Chisora favourite. In my mind, he's a huge outsider.
The bookies know he out boxed helenius, and put up a good fight with Vitali, they also know Hayes been floored a few times, it has to count for something ?
Chisora did well in both fights, but it will take more than a few wild roundhouse swings to convince me he beats Haye.
I guess the choice is a genuine two weight world champion who isn't the absolute best in the division, against a guy that lost three of his last four (and looked shite in the one he did win), and is only getting big fights because he acts like a chav.
My money is on Haye.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 08:51
by jessi
My money is on haye too, and I did state biggest fight as far as Joe public is concerned, it doesn't matter if there coming off a loss or it's a freak show, everyone's talking about it and it's selling fast. FACT !
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 08:55
by Bard of Boxrec
Chisora has the style to beat Haye. Haye's ideal foe is a tall, chin up, chinless guy who he can stop early (Macc, Gurov). He struggles against burly, tough pressure types (Mormeck, Fragomeni). Chisora is a better version of Fragomeni, hits plenty hard enough to put a dent in Haye and will not be bowled over early doors.
If anyone thinks this is an easy one for Haye, they must be crazy. Chisora is going to rough him up no end.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 09:29
by jessi
Riddick Blowe wrote:Chisora has the style to beat Haye. Haye's ideal foe is a tall, chin up, chinless guy who he can stop early (Macc, Gurov). He struggles against burly, tough pressure types (Mormeck, Fragomeni). Chisora is a better version of Fragomeni, hits plenty hard enough to put a dent in Haye and will not be bowled over early doors.
If anyone thinks this is an easy one for Haye, they must be crazy. Chisora is going to rough him up no end.
Kind off agree, still think Hayes speed will prove enough, but it will not be an easy night, I think it could actually be a great fight.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 10:02
by nobby_nobbins
I don't think the brawl they had in Germany will have any bearing on this fight as some have suggested. Haye has the speed and power but his workrate is suspect and he may be ring rusty. Chisora has the chin, the defence and a better workrate but his punches lack snap. I'll go for Chisora on points but wouldn't be surprised if Haye won it.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 10:14
by smoggy7188
Haye on points, summit like 117-112. Chisora aint got the dig to stop him or the workrate to outpoint him.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 14:15
by Final round
dondada wrote:jessi wrote:dondada wrote:
Nowhere near.
What was then ?
That's a really difficult question.
But it's not difficult to say that this ISN'T the biggest because there are loads which were bigger. (Depends how you define bigger, I suppose).
Benn-Eubank II was bigger.
Bruno-Witherspoon
Minter-Hagler
McGuigan-Pedroza
Bruno-McCall
Cooper-Ali II
Hatton-Zoo
And so on...
Don't get things out of perspective - it's two blokes coming off losses fighting to be something like fifth in the world, if that. It's just got silly billies hyped up because of the WWE bollocks.
Who's third and fourth in your opinion?
There's no doubt this is a big ALL British HW fight... as big as Bruno v Lewis?
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 14:24
by leforge
Final round wrote:dondada wrote:jessi wrote:
What was then ?
That's a really difficult question.
But it's not difficult to say that this ISN'T the biggest because there are loads which were bigger. (Depends how you define bigger, I suppose).
Benn-Eubank II was bigger.
Bruno-Witherspoon
Minter-Hagler
McGuigan-Pedroza
Bruno-McCall
Cooper-Ali II
Hatton-Zoo
And so on...
Don't get things out of perspective - it's two blokes coming off losses fighting to be something like fifth in the world, if that. It's just got silly billies hyped up because of the WWE bollocks.
Who's third and fourth in your opinion?
There's no doubt this is a big ALL British HW fight... as big as Bruno v Lewis?
Not as big as that imo.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 14:29
by damianhucker1
Im gonna put a bet on Chisora getting disqualified i think .
Not a big betting man but just got a hunch .
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 14:38
by Finn
J-C wrote:jessi wrote:Who will the bookies make the favorite for this fight ? It has to be close !
And is upton park actually big enough ? Maybe the emirates would of made more sense after selling 30,000 tickets in 6 days !
And could this be the biggest fight in British history as far as Joe public is concerned?
Nah, Eubank/Benn and Lewis/Bruno for starters.
Its the biggest all british fight this side of the millenium for sure.
Re: Haye v Chisora, odds stadium and history !
Posted: 16 May 2012, 14:40
by leforge
damianhucker1 wrote:Im gonna put a bet on Chisora getting disqualified i think .
Not a big betting man but just got a hunch .
Crowd trouble preventing fight happening odds on that one?