Elmer's top 100 list official thread
Posted: 17 May 2012, 15:02
Let me first say that this is a very serious thread on a matter that has been widely debated and discussed on this forum for over 5 years now and is in no way meant to stir sh!t, but rather clarify things once and for all.
I will also say that my private team of investigators, composed of graduates from the Ryerson University all the way to Oxford, has gathered an important amount of data since 2006.
Lets go back in time a little, shall we... In 06, talks of a top 100 list weren't the fashion yet. In fact, elmer could easily go to the library and bring his top 50 list along with him, which he posted a couple of times back then.
In 2007 was the first time we heard about the top 100 list. At that time, the inclusion of such fighters as McAuliffe, Barry and Ryan in weren't left unknown to the posters of the BOTP forum. After being severely burned and owned by the legendary granberry( of whom he later became a rather cute devotee), in which he found and adversary slightly harder to deal with than Decagon, the list was from about then often referred to, but never published.
Ever since, it's been brought up in discussions at times, left asleep at others, but since the turn of the last decade, more and more people have been asking to see it. Non-believers will say it doesn't exist. Half urban legend / half religion, the improbable list is a shadow obscuring this forum like a dark cloud.
Enough evidence suggests that such a list could exist. Clues given by it's originator along the years suggest that this important benchmark of a list is a weight that no man should carry alone. I too, would not bring such a list with me to go browse at the library. Only the naives would. It is why I will be the Kurt Russell of this list. This thread will be it's Stargate.
The data collected here can be backed up. The picks in bold are locked as stated so by the creator of the list. For most of the others, I will gladly correct the order of certain names if you point out that elmer specifically stated something to that effect. Climbs and Drops of +/- 5 are the limit of what will be accepted. What is posted as a list here has been through exhaustive revisions by the best academics I could gather for this project.
The list isn't complete, but what I have is solid. Neo just doesn't believe quite enough yet.
With your help and hopefully elmer's, I think it is possible to finalize this project. Once done, it can be stickied or posted in the HoF thread for achiving purposes, and there will be no more shenanigans about this list.
For a new world order in this forum, here's the awaited:
elmersalsa official top 100 list
1 Armstrong
2 SRR
3 Langford
4 Duran
5 Pep
6 Greb
7 Ali
8 Wilde
9 Louis
10 Gans
11 B.Leonard
12 Charles
13 Monzon
14 Saddler
15 Canzoneri top 15
16 Moore
17 R.Leonard between 15 and 20
18 P.Whitaker
19 Johnson #3HW
20 Jofre
21 Hagler
22 JCC
23 Brown
24 Dempsey top 25
25 Ketchel
26 Ross not top 20
27 Holyfield
28 Walker
29 Aruguello (between #30)
30 Griffith
31 Tunney not top 25
32 McGovern
33 Williams
34 Gavilan
35 Chocolate
36 Sanchez
37 Napoles
38 Hearns not top 20
39 Walcott
40 Marciano #4 HW
41 Pacquiao
42 Perez
43 Fitzsimmons top 25 to 50
44 McLarnin top 50
45 T.Lewis not top 20
46 Olivares
47 Basilio top 50
48 Frazier top 50
49 Tiger top 50
50 Spinks top 50
51 Miller
52 Zarate
53 Loughran
54 Elorde
55 Holmes
56 Hopkins top 50
57 Gomez
58 Saldivar
59 Pryor
60 Burley not top 50
61 Harada
62 PBF not top 50
63
64 Fullmer
65
66 Foreman
67
68 McCallum
69 Lamotta
70 P.Jackson
71 Galaxy
72
73 Villa
74
75 RJJ
76 Benitez
77
78
79 McFarland
80 Ryan
81 Benvenutti
82 McAuliffe
83 Canto
84 Lopez
85 Ortiz
86 Calzaghe
87 Pedroza
88 Lynch
89 Foster not top 50
90 Barry
91 Tyson between 90 and 100
92 Delaney top 100
93 Dundee
94 Barrera top 100
95 Zapata
96 Zale top 100
97 Liston
98 Nelson not top 50
99 Carbajal greatest chicano
100 Herman
Not on the list:
Lennox
DLH
Morales
JMM
Comments and suggestions are welcome.
I will also say that my private team of investigators, composed of graduates from the Ryerson University all the way to Oxford, has gathered an important amount of data since 2006.
Lets go back in time a little, shall we... In 06, talks of a top 100 list weren't the fashion yet. In fact, elmer could easily go to the library and bring his top 50 list along with him, which he posted a couple of times back then.
In 2007 was the first time we heard about the top 100 list. At that time, the inclusion of such fighters as McAuliffe, Barry and Ryan in weren't left unknown to the posters of the BOTP forum. After being severely burned and owned by the legendary granberry( of whom he later became a rather cute devotee), in which he found and adversary slightly harder to deal with than Decagon, the list was from about then often referred to, but never published.
Ever since, it's been brought up in discussions at times, left asleep at others, but since the turn of the last decade, more and more people have been asking to see it. Non-believers will say it doesn't exist. Half urban legend / half religion, the improbable list is a shadow obscuring this forum like a dark cloud.
Enough evidence suggests that such a list could exist. Clues given by it's originator along the years suggest that this important benchmark of a list is a weight that no man should carry alone. I too, would not bring such a list with me to go browse at the library. Only the naives would. It is why I will be the Kurt Russell of this list. This thread will be it's Stargate.
The data collected here can be backed up. The picks in bold are locked as stated so by the creator of the list. For most of the others, I will gladly correct the order of certain names if you point out that elmer specifically stated something to that effect. Climbs and Drops of +/- 5 are the limit of what will be accepted. What is posted as a list here has been through exhaustive revisions by the best academics I could gather for this project.
The list isn't complete, but what I have is solid. Neo just doesn't believe quite enough yet.
With your help and hopefully elmer's, I think it is possible to finalize this project. Once done, it can be stickied or posted in the HoF thread for achiving purposes, and there will be no more shenanigans about this list.
For a new world order in this forum, here's the awaited:
elmersalsa official top 100 list
1 Armstrong
2 SRR
3 Langford
4 Duran
5 Pep
6 Greb
7 Ali
8 Wilde
9 Louis
10 Gans
11 B.Leonard
12 Charles
13 Monzon
14 Saddler
15 Canzoneri top 15
16 Moore
17 R.Leonard between 15 and 20
18 P.Whitaker
19 Johnson #3HW
20 Jofre
21 Hagler
22 JCC
23 Brown
24 Dempsey top 25
25 Ketchel
26 Ross not top 20
27 Holyfield
28 Walker
29 Aruguello (between #30)
30 Griffith
31 Tunney not top 25
32 McGovern
33 Williams
34 Gavilan
35 Chocolate
36 Sanchez
37 Napoles
38 Hearns not top 20
39 Walcott
40 Marciano #4 HW
41 Pacquiao
42 Perez
43 Fitzsimmons top 25 to 50
44 McLarnin top 50
45 T.Lewis not top 20
46 Olivares
47 Basilio top 50
48 Frazier top 50
49 Tiger top 50
50 Spinks top 50
51 Miller
52 Zarate
53 Loughran
54 Elorde
55 Holmes
56 Hopkins top 50
57 Gomez
58 Saldivar
59 Pryor
60 Burley not top 50
61 Harada
62 PBF not top 50
63
64 Fullmer
65
66 Foreman
67
68 McCallum
69 Lamotta
70 P.Jackson
71 Galaxy
72
73 Villa
74
75 RJJ
76 Benitez
77
78
79 McFarland
80 Ryan
81 Benvenutti
82 McAuliffe
83 Canto
84 Lopez
85 Ortiz
86 Calzaghe
87 Pedroza
88 Lynch
89 Foster not top 50
90 Barry
91 Tyson between 90 and 100
92 Delaney top 100
93 Dundee
94 Barrera top 100
95 Zapata
96 Zale top 100
97 Liston
98 Nelson not top 50
99 Carbajal greatest chicano
100 Herman
Not on the list:
Lennox
DLH
Morales
JMM
Comments and suggestions are welcome.
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