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BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 09:39
by slapbangwhallop
An oversight? A moral stance? Hypocritical?

Interesting.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 10:18
by Horse
They need to put it up.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 10:19
by smoggy7188
Maybe Boxrec people will be banned from future fights if they put it in their schedule.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 10:26
by The Law
Lets see if the fight goes ahead. I expect some announcements from various bodies soon.

Other than that .... No comment.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 10:28
by Horse
BoxRec is afraid of the BBBofC bullies.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 10:32
by JDC
Put them both up as tba on that date...?

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 10:57
by leforge
The Law wrote:Lets see if the fight goes ahead. I expect some announcements from various bodies soon.

Other than that .... No comment.
So you think the fight wont happen?

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:17
by Finn
leforge wrote:
The Law wrote:Lets see if the fight goes ahead. I expect some announcements from various bodies soon.

Other than that .... No comment.
So you think the fight wont happen?
I should imagine that if the BBBofC take a hardline stance like they say they will do, it could cause boxrec some serious problems if they recognise it as a legitimate fight prematurely.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:21
by Horse
kingfinn wrote:I should imagine that if the BBBofC take a hardline stance like they say they will do, it could cause boxrec some serious problems if they recognise it as a legitimate fight prematurely.
It is a legitimate fight.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:28
by Finn
Horse wrote:
kingfinn wrote:I should imagine that if the BBBofC take a hardline stance like they say they will do, it could cause boxrec some serious problems if they recognise it as a legitimate fight prematurely.
It is a legitimate fight.
Yeah but not to the BBBofC party poopers.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:38
by Horse
Is Robert Smith the main man who will be held responsible for the recent actions of the BBBofC when it all comes back to bite them? Or will it be someone else?

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:38
by Coco
I don't see boxrec listing any other unlicensed fights, why should Haye v Chisora be any different?

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:39
by Finn
Coco wrote:I don't see boxrec listing any other unlicensed fights, why should Haye v Chisora be any different?
Its not unlicensed its backed by the wbo and wba and licensed by an EBU member the mighty luxemburg board of control.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:42
by slapbangwhallop
Coco wrote:I don't see boxrec listing any other unlicensed fights, why should Haye v Chisora be any different?
because it is licenced!?

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:42
by Coco
The BBBoC have not licensed it, they are the official body in Britain.
Does Boxrec list bouts sanctioned by the EBF etc?

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:45
by slapbangwhallop
Coco wrote:The BBBoC have not licensed it, they are the official body in Britain.
Does Boxrec list bouts sanctioned by the EBF etc?
BoxRec list the Austrian sanction bouts in Germany, the German sanctioned bouts in Denmark, the British sanctioned bouts in Egypt so why not the Lux bouts in Britain.

Hard to defend.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:51
by Coco
Because for example the Austrian board have no problems with their fighters fighting in Germany, and the Germans are happy to have them.
However Haye does not have a British license and Chisora is currently banned.
Are you saying that the BBBoC should not have a say who fights in a licensed bout on their turf?

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:52
by Coco
NEWSFLASH The Luxembourg federation is a joke.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:53
by Horse
Coco wrote:Because for example the Austrian board have no problems with their fighters fighting in Germany, and the Germans are happy to have them.
However Haye does not have a British license and Chisora is currently banned.
Are you saying that the BBBoC should not have a say who fights in a licensed bout on their turf?
Chisora isn't banned he had his license taken away, so he got a new one.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:54
by stujones
I assume though that Haye is now a licenced fighter, albeit with the luxemburg licence..... what about Danny Williams fighting in Germany on a Latvian Licence? Any different?

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:55
by Coco
Horse wrote:
Coco wrote:Because for example the Austrian board have no problems with their fighters fighting in Germany, and the Germans are happy to have them.
However Haye does not have a British license and Chisora is currently banned.
Are you saying that the BBBoC should not have a say who fights in a licensed bout on their turf?
Chisora isn't banned he had his license taken away, so he got a new one.
His British license has been taken away, and the BBBoC does not recognise his new one.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:57
by Horse
Coco wrote:His British license has been taken away, and the BBBoC does not recognise his new one.
Who cares what the BBBofC says? Chisora and Haye are licensed. The BBBofC are not the be all and end all of boxing.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 11:58
by Coco
stujones wrote:I assume though that Haye is now a licenced fighter, albeit with the luxemburg licence..... what about Danny Williams fighting in Germany on a Latvian Licence? Any different?
The difference is that the German authorities recognise Danny Williams Latvian license. Some European licenses have different medical stipulations than others. For an example my pal with a Spanish license went to fight in Italy and was asked for further medical test like he needed to have an MRI as they are not compulsory in Spain.

Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 12:01
by Coco
Horse wrote:
Coco wrote:His British license has been taken away, and the BBBoC does not recognise his new one.
Who cares what the BBBofC says? Chisora and Haye are licensed. The BBBofC are not the be all and end all of boxing.
The BBBoC are the licensing body in Britain. Whether you care about that or not isn't really relevant.
And remember they are only licensed in Luxembourg, thats like showing a policeman a dog license when he stops you in the car!
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Re: BoxRec not listing Chisora v Haye

Posted: 20 May 2012, 12:06
by The Law
Coco wrote:I don't see boxrec listing any other unlicensed fights, why should Haye v Chisora be any different?

Exactly.

It's unsanctioned and we don't list unsanctioned fights. If it comes off then we will have to have think about including the result.

In the mean time I expect an announcement from an important body (possibly on Monday).